US Government planning on shutting down LEGAL BUSINESS - because they don't like it!

This has got to be one of the MOST despicable over-reaches the US Government has attempted to do in years.

A completely legal business, who has actually worked WITH the government, to try and help people and businesses, is being targeted by the US Congress, for closure.

After years of demanding this private business completely reveal all of it's private and sensitive business data, the government is now demanding it be shut down!!

In fact, one of these fat cats wrote an entire book about shutting down a PRIVATE business, because he just doesn't like it!

Hopefully some of the pro-business, anti-regulation-istas on the right, like Ron Paul, will stop this madness!

Whatever happened to the invisible hand of the market? Won't a bad business simply evaporate? Why must our fatcat leaders regulate everything to daeth!

More info here!

news.yahoo.com...

what business are you talking about? what book?

the link is just to the audit the fed bill passing the house...

wait...are you actually defending the fed???

Originally posted by here4awhile
what business are you talking about? what book?

the link is just to the audit the fed bill passing the house...

Private business:

www.globalresearch.ca...

Book:

www.amazon.com...

What we need is some anti-regulation, anti-big government Libertarians to step up and tell these jokers that business is NOT meant to be regulated by the government! One of these guys even called this private corporation UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

What kind of delusional big government rhetoric that?!!?

reply to post by longlostbrother


Bwhahaha. This specific business should have fallen fould of monopoly legislation, constitutional illegality, human rights and all of para-, a-, I- and meta- religious moral principles looooooong ago.

Just because it's a brilliant, twisted and well executed business plan does not mean the evil bits won't eventually catch up with you. Karma is a [overly generalised, non-gender-sensitive female dog with PMS].

reply to post by asciikewl


This is EXACTLY why we need the Libertarians! They are against anti-monopoly laws and can protect private business from these big government fascists!

Originally posted by here4awhile
wait...are you actually defending the fed???

edit on 27-7-2012 by here4awhile because: (no reason given)

Are you saying Libertarians should decide which businesses, no matter how successful they are, should be ALLOWED to keep their doors open!??!

I don't like a LOT of businesses, but I thought Libertarians weren't in the moral judgement game, when it comes to business and business regulations?!

What if these same businessmen, using the same principle, decide to shut down Taco Bell?

It's the principal!

Since when should the federal government have the power to shut down things like tobacco rolling shops, or banks... only because they aren't capitulating to the whims of the almighty federal government.

Show us your books or we'll shut you down!

How is that freedom?

One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation. – Thomas B. Reed

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. – William Pitt

reply to post by longlostbrother


this is an audit...not a definitive shutdown...AN EVALUATION to bring transparency to a business that is very non-transparent...what more needs to be explained?

Originally posted by here4awhile
reply to post by longlostbrother

 

this is an audit...not a definitive shutdown...AN EVALUATION to bring transparency to a business that is very non-transparent...what more needs to be explained?

Sorry, did you see that book?!? That wasn't a call for an audit?

And so now Libertarians think auditing businesses is cool, simply because they don't like what they do?? Fishing for malfeasance?

What happened to these principles?

"The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected."

www.lp.org...

And one more thing, if they get to audit this private business, and then decide to shut it down, then what?

Then it's ok to shut down a business, because the government says so?

That's the Libertarian way??

reply to post by longlostbrother


Explanation: Uhmmm?

So your saying the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF THE USA Is a Private business and should not have any oversight at all!


Personal Disclosure: N/A.

so let me get this straight.

The one single entity that has contributed more to American despair and stress by favoring big business and banks, turning a PROFIT off our tax money. The biggest counterfeiters, and thieves in the country.....

and you bring us to their aid by the rally call of small business........whom they have screwed over time and time again.......

I don't even know what to say....I´ll give you that.....I am just disappointed that people can be so sick and twisted.

I take your proposal like that of a mad man asking me to help him boil kittens and puppies in vats of urine and semen.

It is so sick that I just can't even think about it anymore. You have done something here today. Yes you have.

I feel like I just heard a conversation of a rampant child molester being consoled and pampered after he was scolded for his actions.

Sick.

Originally posted by OmegaLogos
reply to post by longlostbrother

 

Explanation: Uhmmm?

So your saying the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF THE USA Is a Private business and should not have any oversight at all!

Personal Disclosure: N/A.

I didn't say it was private, all it's detractors say it's Private, including Ron Paul.. Ask him.

Look again at what the Libertarians say about the role of government:

"The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected."

Isn't Ron Paul a Libertarian??

reply to post by longlostbrother


you're ridiculous in your defense of the FED...

they won't shut it down...there is no way they could anyway...a reform most likely...

the FED has the power to control the currency that every American relies on...and you think that they shouldn't have to answer to the American people?

the only thing that bothers me about this audit is that they will make a theater of it just to try and appease the american people into thinking that there will be a fix to our policy's when in fact there will be a continuance in bad policy and spending...

Originally posted by BIHOTZ
so let me get this straight.

The one single entity that has contributed more to American despair and stress by favoring big business and banks, turning a PROFIT of our tax money. The biggest counterfeiters, and thieves in the country.....

and you bring us to their aid by the rally call of small business........whom they have screwed over time and time again.......

I don't even know what to say....I´ll give you that.....I am just disappointed that people can be so sick and twisted.

I take your proposal like that of a mad man asking me to help him boil kittens and puppies in vats of urine and semen.

It is so sick that I just can't even think about it anymore. You have done something here today. Yes you have.

I feel like I just heard a conversation of a rampant child molester being consoled and pampered after he was scolded for his actions.
Sick.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... so Libertarian policies are good, as lng as you approve of the business...

So, say a business like cigarette companies, that Libertarians would DEREGULATE COMPLETELY, that's fine, millions dead, but fine, a business like the Fed, which hasn't killed millions, they are like boiling kittens alive, and should be shut down by a nanny state government??

I thought you guys were principled!

Legalize coc aine? Fine!!

Shut down a legal corporation, you disagree with? Fiiiine.

Really strong principles there.

Originally posted by here4awhile
reply to post by longlostbrother

 

you're ridiculous in your defense of the FED...

they won't shut it down...there is no way they could anyway...a reform most likely...

the FED has the power to control the currency that every American relies on...and you think that they shouldn't have to answer to the American people?

the only thing that bothers me about this audit is that they will make a theater of it just to try and appease the american people into thinking that there will be a fix to our policy's when in fact there will be a continuance in bad policy and spending...

And if they DO shut it down?

If the government, those people that shouldn't be trusted, if they shut down a private corporation, that's ok?

Which part of "protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected" does that come under?

Here's what the LP says about monopolies btw:

2.6 Monopolies and Corporations

We defend the right of individuals to form corporations, cooperatives and other types of companies based on voluntary association. We seek to divest government of all functions that can be provided by non-governmental organizations or private individuals. We oppose government subsidies to business, labor, or any other special interest. Industries should be governed by free markets.

www.lp.org...

Where's the bit about stopping businesses you don't like?

reply to post by longlostbrother


it's not a business. They cant legally turn a profit from PUBLIC MONEY. They are supposed to provide a public service FOR THEIR SALARIES. Not private deals with foreign powers without checking with anyone to see if thats ok, and other such practices.

Like cops selling their guns. They can't do it. Yes that would be a business, but just not a legal one.

You are really sick man. I´ll give you that. Damn.

I'm not sure if it's true or not, but I keep reading that the agreement the fed and the gov't has (which is what gives the fed the power to create money out of thin air) is up this year!!
so , well, I don't see how them auditing the fed is overstepping anything really....they are just evauluating weather or not they wish to continue on with this arrangement....
if the gov't decides they don't wish to, well, that is in their rights to do so....they ain't forcing them to close up shop....
what?? you mean the great minds in the fed don't know what the word diversify means?????

Originally posted by BIHOTZ
reply to post by longlostbrother

 

it's not a business. They cant legally turn a profit from PUBLIC MONEY.

Like cops selling their guns. They can't do it. Yes that would be a business, but just not a legal one.

You are really sick man. I´ll give you that. Damn.

So when Ron Paul calls it a privately owned corporation, he's wrong??

The Federal Reserve is, "A secretive, private, government ordained corporation" - Ron Paul

Jesus, you better email his office, he's said that thousands of times and mustn't know the truth!

reply to post by dawnstar


So when Ron Paul wrote a book called,"End the Fed" he wasn't calling for the Fed to be ended?

you're sure running your argument on a lot of if's and anti-libertarian garbage...

thus i'm having a very hard time taking your argument too seriously...

peace...

reply to post by here4awhile


Ahh... so quoting the Libertarian website is anti-Libertarian?

Methinks you can't ACTUALLY justify a Libertarian trying to shut down a private corporation, because you know that REAL Libertarians think the ONLY regulation should be SELF-regulation.

I also think this explains the (R) next to Paul's name. Another anti-business big government fascist, when it suits his agenda.