Obamacare requires all U.S. citizens to receive a microchip or Medchip by March 23, 2013

reply to post by kluskinoodle


Exactly, and devices such as pacemakers and internal defribrillators are able to transmit information over the phone via modem devices to the Doctor for interpretation.

Pcaemakers can also be interrogated to determine if there is a functionality or performace issue in firing. This requires and transmission and receiving of data, as well.


ETA:
Some people do voluntarily have themselves chipped for their medical records, especially if they have chronic diseases that renders them incapabloe of communicating. That is totally voluntary, however.

Originally posted by Libertygal
reply to post by chizeled

 

Wrong.

That is not an implantable chip.

That is for tracking things like pacemakers, knee replacements, implants of donor tissues and bones (yes they are serialized), corneas, metal bone fixators, plates, internal defribillators, hip replacements, and other implantable devices...

...and much, much more...claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary. Basically the Secretary can track whatever the Secretary wants to track.

Originally posted by verschickter
Thread title misleading.
From your source

Whether or not the microchip requirement in the bill is implemented by 2013, remains to be seen

like I said, I'm not convinced that it will happen in March and thank God that things are not going according to their plan because the article suggests that microchip programs have been planned for many years now. However, Obamacare is proof of what the politicians have in mind for all of us.

reply to post by chizeled


As I stated, some people voluntarily do have medical record chips implanted.

Other than that, this will *never* happen. The majority mob *will* rule in this country before it will ever be allowed to take place, I can guarantee that.

Obama will be long gone before anything like that is ever implemented, and the citizens in this country will never stand for it.

Like has been pointed out, the bill was never passed, will never be passed, I don't care what they piggy-back it on to to try to squeeze it through. If they wanted it bad enough, they missed their chance with Obamacare, when we had to pass the bill to find out what was in it.

Notice, it wasn't there.

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
so your saying by march of next year, 300 and something million americans will have to be chipped.
never happen, that's just under nine month's. there is no way the government has the infrastructure in place to do such a task. plus there is no public service announcements, being made or sent out to inform people that this is required. if you think back to when they did the censuses you heard all kinds of psa's on tv. radio and mail.

then you have to think about the people who are not even going to take it, as far as going to their death. people who will take it's as far, as resisting with armed force.

it may come one day, but nine month's from now, no way.

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as I already said, I'm not convinced that it will happen by March, however, Obama has been passing executive orders in preparation for authorizing foreign troops on U.S. soil and confiscating resources in the case of an emergency. Obama and the rest of his thuggery would simply need to create a pandemic in order to declare an emergency situation. Obama is also handing U.S. sovereignty to the UN at which point the UN will claim that it has a right to do whatever it wants to do to Americans that don't comply with its agenda.

There is nothing in the bill that requires anyone to have any medical device worn or installed on their person.

H.R. 3962

The language is there to amend a section in this act to provide increased information sharing and safety for medical devices

FEDERAL FOOD, DRUG, AND COSMETIC ACT


If chips are ever mandated, they will have increased safety guidelines, if not exempted.

As for now... no chip for you!

reply to post by Zarniwoop

As for now... no chip for you!

Hooray? Though I have not willingly or otherwise been to a doctor in 27 years, not since they nearly killed my daughter. So I do not see how they would have accomplished this anyway. Without some mandatory roundup people showing up voluntarily would be a very small percentage, which could indeed be seen as Darwinism at work in itself.

Originally posted by Libertygal
reply to post by chizeled

 

As I stated, some people voluntarily do have medical record chips implanted.

Other than that, this will *never* happen. The majority mob *will* rule in this country before it will ever be allowed to take place, I can guarantee that.

Obama will be long gone before anything like that is ever implemented, and the citizens in this country will never stand for it.

Like has been pointed out, the bill was never passed, will never be passed, I don't care what they piggy-back it on to to try to squeeze it through. If they wanted it bad enough, they missed their chance with Obamacare, when we had to pass the bill to find out what was in it.

Notice, it wasn't there.

edit on 25-7-2012 by Libertygal because: (no reason given)

I hope that you are right but Obama has already authorized martial law in case of an emergency. He and the UN know that Americans aren't going to comply which is why they are trying to take away American guns at the moment. I agree that Obama may be long gone before the mircochip is implemented but he is certainly laying the foundation for the implementation of it. The article goes on to talk about how the microchip can be used in immigration which is why Obama and the Democrats are filing so many immigration lawsuits. The Democrats have wanted to implement the National ID card for a very long time and are trying, with the help of the Supreme Court, to develop legislation that will require everyone to carry id and eventually a microchip for immigration and voting purposed. The Democrats are trying to make it seem like they are fighting for the rights of the minorities but they are really just trying to establish and make everyone accountable to a one world government.

If they chip me, I'll put myself in the microwave..


Or I'll just cut it out of me...doubt they would put it in a hard to reach place, that'd be odd when they scan yer left butt cheek at the doctors office just to get yer insurance info.

Originally posted by Libertygal
reply to post by kluskinoodle

 

...ETA:
Some people do voluntarily have themselves chipped for their medical records, especially if they have chronic diseases that renders them incapabloe of communicating. That is totally voluntary, however.

edit on 25-7-2012 by Libertygal because: (no reason given)

I have read that some celebrities and politicians are already microchipped in case they are kidnapped and held for ransom. Some parents are also supposedly chipping their kids so that they can track their kids down in case they are kidnapped. The masons also have a chip programs that offers to microchip your kids.

Originally posted by Kastogere
If they chip me, I'll put myself in the microwave..

Or I'll just cut it out of me...doubt they would put it in a hard to reach place, that'd be odd when they scan yer left butt cheek at the doctors office just to get yer insurance info.

like I initially said, I tend to believe that the microchip will become a secular symbol. It may become a sign of allegiance to a one world government and religion. For example, the the swastika is used to symbolize esoteric as well as political agendas. The microchip and/or electronic skin tattoos may also eventually symbolize the communist one world government and religion.

Originally posted by chizeled

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
so your saying by march of next year, 300 and something million americans will have to be chipped.
never happen, that's just under nine month's. there is no way the government has the infrastructure in place to do such a task. plus there is no public service announcements, being made or sent out to inform people that this is required. if you think back to when they did the censuses you heard all kinds of psa's on tv. radio and mail.

then you have to think about the people who are not even going to take it, as far as going to their death. people who will take it's as far, as resisting with armed force.

it may come one day, but nine month's from now, no way.

edit on 25-7-2012 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)

edit on 25-7-2012 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)

as I already said, I'm not convinced that it will happen by March, however, Obama has been passing executive orders in preparation for authorizing foreign troops on U.S. soil and confiscating resources in the case of an emergency. Obama and the rest of his thuggery would simply need to create a pandemic in order to declare an emergency situation. Obama is also handing U.S. sovereignty to the UN at which point the UN will claim that it has a right to do whatever it wants to do to Americans that don't comply with its agenda.

true he has been passing eo's, and they do contain language that allows all that you mentioned. but there are still millions of amercains that will not stand for this, some armed some not and nothing has been said about those in the military and their commanders who have the loyalty of their troops, who would in the minute the sovereignty was surrender, rasie up and fight let alone the first amercains be killed. in order to have amercains comply with their agenda.

i wouldn't want to be wearing a light blue beret, or helmet cover.

IF, and that is a big IF, this is mandated, I will refuse. I do not care what the punishment is, be it a fine or jail, I WILL NOT be implanted, unless it is MY choice. As soon as it is not my CHOICE, I will resist.

It takes a lot for me to feel defensive, but if they want to back me into a corner, I will activate my inner animal, and go straight for the eyes. Simple. This is my life, it is small and unimportant, leave me the hell alone.

NO ONE is putting a chip in me or my family and if they try they will pay. i really wonder how many of the sheeple out there will go along with this.

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie...i wouldn't want to be wearing a light blue beret, or helmet cover.

incidentally, rumor has it that some American troops are already wearing UN colors. If the masons are already offering to microchip kids and those same masons are working in the pentagon then it's not really very difficult to believe that masons in the military are actively preparing to force the troops to not only wear UN colors but also be microchipped. American troops wearing UN colors would be confused with foreign UN troops if Americans decided to retaliate against microchipping. Forcing troops to be microchipped and/or forcing troops to force civilians to be vaccinated or microchipped would probably completely decimate the U.S. military...but then again, the UN probably wants to weaken the U.S. military so that the U.S. can't defend itself from a one world government's and/or UN troops.

Sure, put it in. I'll cut it out, and bury it right outside the doctors office. Then what??

Originally posted by chizeled

Originally posted by verschickter
Thread title misleading.
From your source

Whether or not the microchip requirement in the bill is implemented by 2013, remains to be seen

like I said, I'm not convinced that it will happen in March and thank God that things are not going according to their plan because the article suggests that microchip programs have been planned for many years now. However, Obamacare is proof of what the politicians have in mind for all of us.

So why did you wrote it in the title then? This isn´t even the headline from the article. Its from your feather so you can tell me a hundred times you are not convinced and wrote this. It stays a misleading title, which you typed by yourself. So you did it with intentions.

Title is not just misleading, its purposefully misleading.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Sure, put it in. I'll cut it out, and bury it right outside the doctors office. Then what??

I think that most people feel the way you do which is why I believe that the microchip will become a symbol of allegiance or solidarity with the one world government. I suspect that it will eventually be enforced like Islam is; either accept it or be imprisoned or killed kind of thing. The EU is actively trying to establish a one world government and the Vatican is actively trying to establish a one world religion of tolerance. I believe that the European Union, North American Union, Pacific Union, and Asian Union will eventually consolidate into a communist one world government and religion that is based on tolerance of all beliefs (except those that oppose the one world government). Everyone who wants to be a part of it will be required to wear the microchip or electronic skin tattoo in order to participate in government progams, healthcare, banking, etc. Those who refuse will likely be imprisoned or killed. For example, parts of the contentious immigration program is whether or not the government can hold suspected immigrants in jail. Although the law currently says 20-30+ days, perhaps it will be changed to 10? If anyone refuses to have a microchip then the government will eventually have the authority to throw you in prison as an unauthorized immigrant and/or terrorist:

Revelations 2:10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.

Originally posted by kluskinoodle
reply to post by chizeled

 

If you read the original quote carefully, it's referring to "medical devices". Medical devices encompass a multitude of things: hip replacements, knee replacements, pacemakers, etc. They are calling for a registry of medical devices in order to analyze the functionality after the device has been utilized. It's like a big database of what was used when so they can identify patterns in issues related to the products...so manufacturers, etc. know whom to notify in case the device has issues. Kind of like a recall notification.

You're correct, and if people would really read the excerpt the "implantable" device is not a chip, it is the medical devises that they will be creating a database of. A database of any devise used in or on a patient, a class III device, or a class II devise that is implantable.

I have read the entire bill (yes I have too much free time) and nowhere, anywhere in the bill does it mention any type of microchipping. I despise Obama and our entire government more than most, but this is nothing at all but fear mongering and disinformation.

Originally posted by verschickter

Originally posted by chizeled

Originally posted by verschickter
Thread title misleading.
From your source

Whether or not the microchip requirement in the bill is implemented by 2013, remains to be seen

like I said, I'm not convinced that it will happen in March and thank God that things are not going according to their plan because the article suggests that microchip programs have been planned for many years now. However, Obamacare is proof of what the politicians have in mind for all of us.

So why did you wrote it in the title then? This isn´t even the headline from the article. Its from your feather so you can tell me a hundred times you are not convinced and wrote this. It stays a misleading title, which you typed by yourself. So you did it with intentions.

Title is not just misleading, its purposefully misleading.

I was opening a discussion.

Considering the masons have a program that offers to microchip kids then I'm not surprised to see a lot of mason and mason supporters respond by trying to discredit the fact that the government is trying to microchip people. Also, I think that its important to remember that microchipping Americans is in the best interest of America's enemies. If any socialist or communist wants to undermine American then they would simply have to troll boards like this one and try to discredit facts or otherwise try obstruct the purpose the thread...which is to discuss the possibilities of microchipping.