video of a gun saving multiple lives!

reply to post by phroziac


Well thats not exactly the best thing to say at this point is it? I mean, if you're telling me the lawless Wild Wild West was less violent than now, then you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot (pun intended)

But then again, there were less people and less guns to go around back then so it makes sense. :shrug:

reply to post by mikelkhall


You do realize that you are debating with someone who uses the word "pwned" (if you can even call that a word) don't you?

reply to post by Screwed


lol. Didn't know I was debating. I thought I was only talking to myself since the other person would never answer me.

Link me to your questions because I didnt see any, I might of missed during your emotional ramblings. I will answer them. Show me again. Thanx.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by mikelkhall
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Wish I knew where that magical land you speak of was located......

I sure hope you dont.

But really here is some facts about Alabama who has the most households with gun protection in the U.S, are they safer?

In addition, Alabama's gun-death rate of 16.99 per 100,000 population was about 70 percent higher than the national average of 10.32.

The Violence Policy Center found a correlation between gun ownership rates and gun-death rates. It also noted that states with so-called "weak" gun laws had more gun deaths.

But there's another way to look at the numbers. Of the 780 firearm deaths that occurred in Alabama in 2006, 333 were homicides, 37 were accidental, eight were undetermined and two were considered "legal intervention."

But the majority of gun deaths - 400 to be exact - were suicides. Let's restate that: More than half the gun deaths (which is typical nationally) were the deliberate acts of gun owners or those who had guns in their possession at the time.

acjic.state.al.us...
www.al.com.../base/opinion/1245230187242670.xml&coll=1

Then the gun ownership right theory falls apart, again.

Dont forget this post. What do you think?

reply to post by Shadow Herder


You are a true comedian. I love it.

Anywho, I don't get emotional on this board. I never ramble and I certainly would never flee for the hills if the bad guys were to move into my neighborhood.

As far as linking to my questions they are real easy to find since this is only a 5 page thread. Just look for the pictures on the far left side of the page that look like a robot with shining red eyes and then read the questions.

I tried to make the directions as easy to understand as I could. If I went to fast then please don't hesitate to ask me to slow down.

Originally posted by nusnus
reply to post by phroziac

 

Well thats not exactly the best thing to say at this point is it? I mean, if you're telling me the lawless Wild Wild West was less violent than now, then you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot (pun intended)

But then again, there were less people and less guns to go around back then so it makes sense. :shrug:

Huh? The violence back then is greatly overstated to make the stories more interesting. the most famous law men of the time period only shot just a few people. Most shootings were between mutual agressors, so not really a big deal. You just had to not be an asshole when you got drunk. They werent routinely walking into places and shooting everyone

Originally posted by Shadow Herder


P.S The guy was released from hospital within 15 days. No charges laid.

Should of...sorry...should've been, since you were the physical aggressor. I would of...dang...I would've had your pansy butt behind bars.

Of course, that's assuming your "imposing figure" would of...crap...would've been vertical.

/TOA

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by mikelkhall
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Wish I knew where that magical land you speak of was located......

I sure hope you dont.

But really here is some facts about Alabama who has the most households with gun protection in the U.S, are they safer?

In addition, Alabama's gun-death rate of 16.99 per 100,000 population was about 70 percent higher than the national average of 10.32.

The Violence Policy Center found a correlation between gun ownership rates and gun-death rates. It also noted that states with so-called "weak" gun laws had more gun deaths.

But there's another way to look at the numbers. Of the 780 firearm deaths that occurred in Alabama in 2006, 333 were homicides, 37 were accidental, eight were undetermined and two were considered "legal intervention."

But the majority of gun deaths - 400 to be exact - were suicides. Let's restate that: More than half the gun deaths (which is typical nationally) were the deliberate acts of gun owners or those who had guns in their possession at the time.

acjic.state.al.us...
www.al.com.../base/opinion/1245230187242670.xml&coll=1

Then the gun ownership right theory falls apart, again.

Dont forget this post. What do you think?

I think it's incomplete, as it doesn't seem to state how many of those "gun deaths" were committed by people that illegally possessed the guns they used to commit their deliberate acts.

/TOA

µso funny you can have guns, but no cannabis :p

reply to post by The Old American


When you remove the half of gun deaths that are suicides (which doesn't even need to be reported, and shouldn't be a crime), then the numbers for the US (including Alabama) are very average in comparison to all other nations, including nations with very restrictive gun laws. In addition, the overall rate of crime is lower than those other nations!

People wanting to commit suicide don't need a gun, they'll just find some other way, Oxy, a toaster and a bathtub, a tall building, a vehicle and a tree, whatever. Getting rid of guns won't prevent suicide. Get those numbers out of the statistic.

You are also totally right about the crimes committed with illegally purchased guns. There was a statistic I posted last year, but not I'm having trouble finding it, but it showed that 90-something % of gun crimes did not entail the use of a legally purchased gun and its legal owner. More gun laws would not have impacted 90-something percent of the gun crimes.

The gun control argument just doesn't have any basis in fact.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by ylriclmm
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

lol, you're horribly close minded.

Actually quite advanced for my time.

What do you think the thugs would do after robbing everyone?

Leave without hurting anyone.

You want guns? Get them, wanna get drunk go for it. Just stay away from me and my city. If that infestation were to reach me, I move on.

edit on 24-7-2012 by Shadow Herder because: (no reason given)

Sure, just move on, that's the white thing to do.

"If that infestiation were to reach" you, you would just move on. Neighborhood starts looking a little rough, move to the burbs, let those animals kill each other, you don't need to help clean it up, or prevent it from happening, just abandon the home and neighborhood you grew up in, transfer the kids out of their school, spend money to move, commute further into work, destroy some forestry, move to the burbs, because THAT is the responsible thing to do instead of standing up for yourself.

And, for the record, robbers don't always just take the money and run, they often KILL EVERYONE IN THE STORE!

Pharmacy Robber kills 4, including 17 year old high school senior.
--> And she even lived out in the burbs with you! At the end of a cul-de-sac with her parents. It was a "homey" little drug store, nobody expected this. It was 60 miles outside the city, low-crime area.

He shot and killed everyone who was in the store at the time, and fled on foot with stolen prescription drugs. No arrest had been made by Sunday night.

The police said that two of the victims, Raymond Ferguson, 45, of Centereach and Jennifer Mejia, 17, of East Patchogue, worked at the drug store.

The other two victims, Bryon Sheffield, 71, of Medford and Jamie Taccetta, 33, of Farmingville, were customers.

Ms. Mejia, a senior at Bellport High School, lived with her family on a cul-de-sac in East Patchogue.

Too bad that pharmacist didn't have a gun to chase him out like the one in the OP!

OR this one.

Robbers kill two during home invasion... the robbers had total control, had the money, had victims totally cooperating and pleaing for their lives, yet they shot them anyway as they ran out of the house. Sure, you can trust ROBBERS to do the right thing, totally no reason to be afraid, just give them the money, they're trustworthy folks, they won't hurt you.

The suspect demanded more money from other family members and he was given approximately $160. He asked for more money but was told by relatives they didn’t have any more.
Philbert pleaded with the gunmen not to hurt them but as the suspect was fleeing the scene, he fired several shots in the direction of Philbert, hitting him in the stomach, arm and leg, police said.
The police were notified and Philbert was taken to the Port of Spain General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead on arrival.

reply to post by Shadow Herder

The have been forced into living a world that is not natural and people are reacting to this. There is so much hatred, anger, violence all around that we hate other countries, people from those countries, so much hate around you that people hate their neighbours, rob from them, rape and kill them. People dont feel safe.

Well, if we lived naturally, instead of civilized, and if we did not have any guns, then the biggest, strongest, fastest, most aggressive, or most cunning would have all the resources and control. Women would be subservient objects to men for reproducing and rearing off-spring, weaker men would be enslaved by stronger ones, and natural selection would rule supreme, so whining suburbanites would be extinct.

The force equalization the gun provides is a way to maintain civilization and put all people on equal ground. The natural way of the world is a violent way. This is how it works in the animal kingdom, even the plant kingdom! The heartiest and most aggressive win.

As the old saying goes, "God didn't make all men equal, Samuel Colt did."

Where I come from there is no hand guns, hunting rifles a plenty though. Yet no armed robberies, no homicide related to guns. I need not retort.

Sorry, now you are just lying, I posted several links to gun violence in your little bubble of Canada. An article from Today outlining the homicide rate in Canada, specifically Manitoba.. Those rates are HIGHER than the US's rate since 1999! Yes, Canada has a higher homicide rate per 100,000 residents than the US does, for over a decade.

reply to post by Shadow Herder


The problem is we do not live in an intellegent world so guns are needed.

You also state that you don't live in an area where a gun is needed...At any point in time any area in the entire world can become a place where a firearm is needed...

Maybe even at a movie theatre.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Pwned. < snip >

Pwned?!?!? So you are telling everyone in this thread that you are some kind of Billy Bad Ass, and yet you use the "word" "pwned"??? Come on be truthful, you're nothing but a 15yo keyboard warrior.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Man GRA, you hit it out of the park today! It's all about the balance.

Guns are here, they're not going anywhere anytime soon. If not guns, it would be knives, swords, blowguns, poison, etc.

I have no problem with people who are against guns, just don't try to take away my right as a free American to own one!

Just remember that old cliche, "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns".

Lol, Americans.

Originally posted by Tramadolnights
Lol, Americans.

People please!

If this quote doesn't notify everyone to this poster's state of mind, and general disregard for our way of life....welll I don't know what will.

Yeah we are American's(Thank you Cpt. Obvious)...well many of us at least. We also tend to follow the US constitution, or at least try to in most cases.

Cowards.. Every single robbery video I see where the clerk/victim shoots, the "tough guy's" haul a$$ out of there.


Gs

Originally posted by The Old American

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by mikelkhall
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Wish I knew where that magical land you speak of was located......

I sure hope you dont.

But really here is some facts about Alabama who has the most households with gun protection in the U.S, are they safer?

In addition, Alabama's gun-death rate of 16.99 per 100,000 population was about 70 percent higher than the national average of 10.32.

The Violence Policy Center found a correlation between gun ownership rates and gun-death rates. It also noted that states with so-called "weak" gun laws had more gun deaths.

But there's another way to look at the numbers. Of the 780 firearm deaths that occurred in Alabama in 2006, 333 were homicides, 37 were accidental, eight were undetermined and two were considered "legal intervention."

But the majority of gun deaths - 400 to be exact - were suicides. Let's restate that: More than half the gun deaths (which is typical nationally) were the deliberate acts of gun owners or those who had guns in their possession at the time.

acjic.state.al.us...
www.al.com.../base/opinion/1245230187242670.xml&coll=1

Then the gun ownership right theory falls apart, again.

Dont forget this post. What do you think?

I think it's incomplete, as it doesn't seem to state how many of those "gun deaths" were committed by people that illegally possessed the guns they used to commit their deliberate acts.

/TOA

Maybe you should re-read that.

The states with looser gun control and allow oopen carry have more gun violence and there are no heroes. Where is all the stories of these dumb gun owners protecting americans? 1-5 youtube videos out of 10,000's deaths is pathetic.