Holmes had TWO roommates! EVIDENCE that MSM is rewriting the official story before our eyes!!!

reply to post by ZiggyMojo


I'm saying to you that just because you don't know why it was changed, or in many cases don't even notice that something was changed, doesn't make it anything suspicious.

A case liek this will necessarily create a lot a lot of conspiracies, but my attitudes toward this one is that it has enough mysteries without generating new ones...

One further and very real possibility is that the cops asked the info to be removed... they DEF do that, if it suits their work... again, that's not proof of anything nefarious...

If you do a search of "records indicate that john holmes lived msnbc" you will get the proper results. Search for "records indicate that john holmes lived" and you won't get the msnbc one anymore.

This has changed in the past hour. Something stinks.

reply to post by longlostbrother


If they are going to change or remove data they need to clarify so we know why. Just like the AP did here:

DENVER (AP) -- In a story July 20 and 21 about the Colorado shooting suspect, The Associated Press reported erroneously on the subject of a class presentation James Holmes was listed as making in May. The presentation was on Micro RNA Biomarkings, not Micro DNA Biomarkings....

SOURCE

With an otherwise meaningless detail that really has nothing to do with the crime itself or the suspects ability to commit the crime.

Where is the correction for the two roommates remark, and why did they remove that without any explanation when SEVERAL other pointless or meaningless details have been officially retracted and explained?

This entire thing appears to be unravelling daily now.

There are so many loose ends that seem to be indicating fowl play and that Holmes was a patsy.

Deep down I want to believe differently, but this thing stunk the minute it aired. There are far too many questions and issues with what the MSM is passing off as truth.

I'm not much of an Alex Jones fan, but check out his stance on this. He seems adamantly convinced that this is a psyop, and frankly, based on all that has ben fed to us thus far, my gut isn't disagreeing with his loud-mouthed, quick assertions this time around.

They were college students, it's summer... most college students go "home" for the summer break so it's completely possible to have room mates that had gone home for the summer and were returning when classes started back...

reply to post by lordtyp0


Where do you get this info from?
I don't know for sure BUT... how man failing grads get given grants?

And even if he was failing. It only creates more questions. Not less.

reply to post by Krahzeef


It was his first year in. He withdrew from the program right before kicked out.
One sec, looking for links.


Edit to add:
In grad programs they are given the money for the year. He was awarded 26k in living expenses and the rest went to school related items.

Originally posted by PurpleChiten
They were college students, it's summer... most college students go "home" for the summer break so it's completely possible to have room mates that had gone home for the summer and were returning when classes started back...

CNN, for example, likes to press their facts against your face hundreds of times a day.

I tuned into them for the initial day to see what they were saying, about any connections to him, and who lived in that apartment, with him and on other floors. Seems like something that would have been known about easily from the girl who lived in the apartment below him who called the cops when she heard the techno music blaring when it was set off with the timer.

It could have been removed from the original stories because it's not accurate information.. John Holmes was mis-identified on multiple occasions early in this situation.. even on facebook a poor guy was harassed because he lived in the area and shared John's name ...

I've never SEEN this proof of roomates being firmly attributed to the shooter .. And from what I understand, his apartment complex was for university students, faculty and patients ONLY .. I'm not sure he would have even been allowed roomates unless they were also student, faculty or patients of UC Medical.

Without solid proof this is all just jumping to conclusions.. the media was desperately trying to trump each other when the story broke.

Originally posted by Krahzeef
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

Where do you get this info from?
I don't know for sure BUT... how man failing grads get given grants?

And even if he was failing. It only creates more questions. Not less.

It was revealed today that he purchased the shotgun hours after failing an oral examination and dropped out in the following days.. It seems evident he wasn't doing well in the course.. it actually helps explain the motivation.. the prevailing theory is that he had a psychotic break from failing and having such high hopes/expectations.. and that this event could also have triggered a dormant schizophrenia ( one theory I heard a psychiatrist speaking about today in an article )..

If he was failing his classes it is probably because his main priority was learning how to become a perfect psy op assassin. Being too busy learning about weapons, crowd control, and how to properly respond to classically conditioned stimuli via Mk/Ultra.

reply to post by ZiggyMojo


Did the AP change the room mates thing? Or just NBC?

Is everyone getting it from NBC or what?

How far have you traced it back?

Look here:

hot-topic-s.blogspot.ie...

This is the oldest reference I can find, and it seems to be based on a news broadcast.

Public records indicate that Holmes lived with two roommates, also from California, in the Aurora building where police have found explosives, at 1690 Paris St., Apt. 10. The building is reserved for students, faculty and staff from the medical campus.

Originally posted by DrHammondStoat

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by ZiggyMojo
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I would agree with that but I think it would have been more effective to make an official statement that said he didn't have any roommates and that information was false.

Legally a retraction is an admission of them doing something wrong, that would only serve to garner most attention to those who were not involved.

But what makes it a mistake important enough to remove. Surely it's removal means the reporters feared some kind of action for getting that one thing wrong?

Is it because the records were public and anyone could check them therefore making the reporters look dumb? Somebody should check those records..if we knew what they were.

Intelius.com

It's pro'lly wiped clean by now though.

Before I "retired", part of my job was to find lost heirs to oil and gas production royalties.

Originally posted by murkraz
This entire thing appears to be unravelling daily now.

There are so many loose ends that seem to be indicating fowl play and that Holmes was a patsy.

There are? what are they? .. I don't see anything indicating he was a patsy.. I do know there was foul play though, it's foul play to shoot up a theater of innocent people all because you failed at your career dreams.

Originally posted by murkraz

Deep down I want to believe differently, but this thing stunk the minute it aired. There are far too many questions and issues with what the MSM is passing off as truth.

In journalism this is common, everyone wants to be the first to break a story .. they were first rushing to get pictures of the guy so they scoured facebook and found the wrong guy.. They try to be sleuths and get information because the police isn't revealing anything due to a court gag order ( primarily not to ruin the jury selection process I suspect ) ..

Originally posted by murkraz

I'm not much of an Alex Jones fan, but check out his stance on this. He seems adamantly convinced that this is a psyop, and frankly, based on all that has ben feed to us thus far, my gut isn't disagreeing with his loud-mouthed, quick assertions this time around.

edit on 25/7/12 by murkraz because: (no reason given)

Are you honestly surprised that Alex Jones finds this to be a conspiracy of some kind? I'd be shocked if he didn't.. honestly he would find a conspiracy theory in a grandmother buying a gallon of milk if he could get away with it.

reply to post by lordtyp0


Thanks for the quick response. I have no idea of the grant process at all, I assumed it was based on results and not on potential. Thank you for clarifying. The story still stinks, but for one less reason.

Originally posted by stupid girl


Intelius.com

It's pro'lly wiped clean by now though.

Before I "retired", part of my job was to find lost heirs to oil and gas production royalties.

Intellius tells me I live with 5 people, I never have lived with 5 people .. it's hardly accurate in many cases, it's useful for matching a person to an address and often good about criminal records but it's wrong quite often about occupancy.. especially in apartment situations where they sometimes seem to overlap the numbers because of previous occupants.

reply to post by longlostbrother


Several media sources removed it. I noticed it first on Christian Post and MSNBC because that was where I was first linked to and tried to use as a source again a few days later. I then noticed that several others had done the same thing when I started searching for a credible source to show that it was reported that he had two roommates.

To my dismay I couldn't even provide a link to a person asking for the article that originally reported it because they had all removed it without any explanation. That's a problem.

reply to post by longlostbrother


I never said every edit had something nefarious behind it, but if you are in search of something nefarious, looking at the AP corrections page is the wrong place. If I was in one of those positions and was having a story changed for nefarious reasons, you would never hear about it. That means it's not going to make the AP corrections page because I would want NO public record of it. To find evidence of a nefarious edit you would have to use the same sort of technique that the OP did. If you read that article I was talking about, you would see that the edits that he talks about happened in the same manner where the original story was updated and a particular line was written in another way to leave out a slight piece of damning information that even the most trained eye might not pick up on. However, deep down it was an edit to C.Y.A. for someone.

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by stupid girl


Intelius.com

It's pro'lly wiped clean by now though.

Before I "retired", part of my job was to find lost heirs to oil and gas production royalties.

Intellius tells me I live with 5 people, I never have lived with 5 people .. it's hardly accurate in many cases, it's useful for matching a person to an address and often good about criminal records but it's wrong quite often about occupancy.. especially in apartment situations where they sometimes seem to overlap the numbers because of previous occupants.

This is true, however more often than not you are given leads to further conclusions with seemingly unrelated or non-applicable info.
Such as, in your particular situation, I would track down those 5 people to glean more information about you.

Before "retirement" I was an independent contractor through Chesapeake and was one of their best....if the information existed and was available, then it was just a matter of time before I found it.

I pretty much suck at everything else

reply to post by cheezydik


My point was NOT that nefarious stuff would always be on the corrections page, but that, simply because you didn't see a correction on the page, didn't make it suspicious.

All of the room mate stuff seems to stem from one place, NBC.

I'd guess that NBC jumped the gun on that, and doesn't want to look silly.

They pushed the update, without explanation, and most of the sites updated their stories, a few are too inept to change theirs, or missed the update...

until there's evidence of something untoward, don't jump to sinister conclusions...