The gay agenda and why it bothers me: An analogy

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Can a person still love the person but not agree with their being gay?

How can you "not agree" with someone being gay? That's like not agreeing with me being straight.

People say this a lot. "I don't agree with them being gay." I don't know what that means. Sorry.

reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

I also think some people (especially women) do experiment with same-gender sex. Just like people experiment with non-conventional sexual practices through their lives... Most likely, if there's experimentation, the person isn't 100% straight. I think we all fit somewhere along the continuum. I have had both sexual and emotional connections with other women, but the vast majority of my relationships have been with men. I married a man. To me, it didn't matter so much what gender he was. I fell in love with him. If he had been a woman, I would probably still be with him (her) waiting for the law to allow us to get married.

As it is, he and I celebrated our 20th anniversary this year. I don't care to be labelled but I support equal rights for all.

I think the "not agreeing" part is saying they don't do it themselves so they have no taste for it....
Just like homosexuals have no taste for the opposite sex no?

Like myself for instance, I'm straight. I'm a male and love women, And I think my problem is that I don't see how a guy can not like women... I mean (some not all) women are sexy, gorgeous, love the large breasts and derriers... And I don't see how a man can think otherwise. But then again It's not my mind, so I'll never know...

I guess people like to criticize what they can't comprehend.
But hey, homosexuality leaves more women for us straight guys. So hey, do your thing.

Originally posted by OpinionatedB
reply to post by AussieAmandaC

 

I do not see how it is weird in the least. See the example of Rome, Rome did not fall from the outside, it fell first from the inside. www.rhm.uni-koeln.de...

Now see all the data out there on society having to have birth rates at least at replacement rate if not slightly higher, and how lower birth rates can adversely effect society, and you tell me we do not have a duty?
www.hoover.org...

Because gay couples are not known to have families

But that would lead us onto a much more fiery topic i think.

Originally posted by Nikola014
I have my own theory.

The world government and the mainstream media want you to think that homosexuality is a normal thing, because they want to reduce the number of population...

I don't have anything against gay people, but think about it. The prime reason of living is to have kids so the human race can survive. But, if homosexuality is a normal thing as you say, how people who are gay cant have their own kids but have to adopt them? So that's not a normal thing.

Homosexuality, and bisexuality have been documented many times in mother nature, in numerous species.

So from a scientific standpoint...alternative sexualities are completely natural, and "normal".

as a gay man myself, these sorts of post really confuse me, I don't have an agenda, i get up go to work and then socialize with friends, straight, bi and gay. I am highly political, but 'gay issues' would never sway my vote or opinion.

What people don't realize is that gay pride festivals are primarily fund raising for gay health charities, events that promote unity with the larger community, in a fun way, Birmingham Pride is the perfect example, a party atmosphere promoting the good work of charities while providing a place for like minded people to party and have fun.

The political side of this is all about equality, too much is put on gay marriage, when the main issue of marriage is the benefits that come with it, legal issues such as next of kin and the right of a partner to assume the property in the event of the others death, and life insurance issues, all married couples enjoy a tax break, taking into account both wages. This is why gay marriage has become such an issue, something the church needs to realize before spouting off sanctity of marriage rubbish.

this so called 'gay agenda' is coming from straight politicians looking to win votes, plain and simple, most gay people i know find it offensive we are covered by special laws that give us equality, when i'm totally shocked to find out i'm not classed as equal in the first place.

so before you spout off about gay issues just look at who's saying it, we dont want to be told we are equal, we should already be equal.

rant over lol

Originally posted by Nikola014
I have my own theory.

The world government and the mainstream media want you to think that homosexuality is a normal thing, because they want to reduce the number of population...

I don't have anything against gay people, but think about it. The prime reason of living is to have kids so the human race can survive. But, if homosexuality is a normal thing as you say, how people who are gay cant have their own kids but have to adopt them? So that's not a normal thing.

Yeah like that would actually work FFS!

That's straight out of an Alex Jones rant and complete rubbish.

Originally posted by FailedProphet
Let me start by saying I don't hate gay people, I don't object to their activities. I'm not particularly religious, so none of that has anything to do with my stance. But I do feel there is a "gay agenda," to push social acceptance of homosexuality in media and academia. And it bothers me.

You dont hate gay people but you have a problem with them pushing for social acceptance? Maybe you should just continue to walk around with your eyes closed and then you would never have to see any gay people, problem solved eh?


Doesn't matter how you start a thread like this off, you cant have your cake and eat it.

Were Here.
Were Queer.
Get used to it.

Hahahaha!!

reply to post by Atione


The "Child Abuse" angle is not interesting nor valid or correct. It is just another slander linked to "ZOMG THEY WANT OUR CHILDREN".

I was not abused. I don't know any gay people who were. I did not have an absent father or over bearing mother either.

Please check up on the actual science on items before posting articles that many would associate with bigotry.

Originally posted by lordtyp0

As is-it is a second class citizen stigma, even today. I can't even rub my partners shoulder when it is sore without hostile stares-and I am not talking about cuddling here. Whereas straight couples can borderline have sex in public and nobody seems to notice.

And this may not change in your lifetime. But I firmly believe that the next generation, or the one after that, will not bat an eye. We are progressing as a society - it's just slow. We will continue to have the death throes for a while (hence the OP's post), but things ARE changing.

reply to post by FailedProphet


You know OP, you can say this about any minority. What about the token black friend in every show? Or the token mexican etc. They're a part of society, Let them be represented in TV shows. I wouldn't think of it as people shoving some agenda down our throats, because before NO ONE was gay on TV unless it was comedic, stereotypical role. Now that its more acceptable, I'd rather think of it as writers broadening what they can write about... which is never a bad thing.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by lordtyp0

As is-it is a second class citizen stigma, even today. I can't even rub my partners shoulder when it is sore without hostile stares-and I am not talking about cuddling here. Whereas straight couples can borderline have sex in public and nobody seems to notice.

And this may not change in your lifetime. But I firmly believe that the next generation, or the one after that, will not bat an eye. We are progressing as a society - it's just slow. We will continue to have the death throes for a while (hence the OP's post), but things ARE changing.

Ever been to Amsterdam?

The first day I was there it was below freezing in the middle of winter and this huge dude with a shaved head, wearing nothing but a leotard, zips by me and my friends on rollerblades! He gave us a wink, we obviously were staring open mouthed at him, it was funny!

reply to post by buster2010


I think that most people are just indifferent to homosexuality.

I don't really care who you snuggle with but I do agree with this post. It does seem that there is some sort of agenda out there.

To me it seems that people that preach tolerance are themselves the least tolerant.

reply to post by AlexG141989


I agree with you, look at the show warehouse 13, one of the charecters there is gay, and he doesn't act like a sereotype for comedy. I like this because it shows the stereotype is not real for gays.

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

You dont hate gay people but you have a problem with them pushing for social acceptance? Maybe you should just continue to walk around with your eyes closed and then you would never have to see any gay people, problem solved eh?


Doesn't matter how you start a thread like this off, you cant have your cake and eat it.

Were Here.
Were Queer.
Get used to it.

Hahahaha!!

I was going to point out that contradiction, but you already said it.

So what if more people are being shown gay? Just because it is being shown, that doesn't mean that anything is being "thrown" in your face. Unless many advertisement come out saying "be gay now!", nothing is being "thrown in your face", people are just being themselves, and the movies, TV shows, are just better reflecting reality.

reply to post by sopheruk

This says it all.
Porcupine, eh?

Originally posted by resoe26
Failed Prophet. I must agree.

Being gay IMO, is not a normal thing. (And yeah, you can call me a religious freak).
I don't have anything against gay people, except I feel that it is wrong that they are gay. But, frankly, I don't think it is all neccesarily their fault. It seems all the gay folks I have known seem to have family issues. Raised by one parent, have an abusive parent, have been molested, etc. Usually it seems like its all a cry for attention. Now we have the media glamorizing it, hell, even glamorizing it on disney channel and other children's cartoons. I have a 2 year old son and hardly ever let him watch television, but now with all of these homosexual references in the cartoons, he might just have to stick with old looney tunes or popeye the sailor man. I don't want my children growing up to think that being a homosexual is the right thing. I was raised in a hispanic family with religious beliefs. I intend to keep it that way.
Media has went off the deep end. It almost seems that now in days young adults think its the "cool thing" to be a homosexual. That they are unique or such. But hey, not bothering me at all. I just feel bad for the people.

You despicable religious freak!! - You asked for it, gave permission so you got it.
How DARE you generalise homosexuality down to people being raised by one parent, abused or molested and the rest of the ABSOLUTE BS that drivelled out of your mouth. Yeah you have a few friends that fall into that category, but that doesn't mean you should tar everyone else with the same brush!

You are the epitome of why so many people hate religion - You have NO IDEA what you are talking about! Here's a question for you; what if your precious 2 year old son turns out to be gay??? I'll tell you what will happen, he will be in torment with no support from his religious freak family, probably turn to drugs or crime, and may even end up in jail or dead.. How does it feel??? To here someone generalise about WHAT YOUR SON COULD BE... Pfffffft you make me fking sick

reply to post by FailedProphet


Porcupines are less likely to produce offspring.

It is population control that you are talking about.

People can be how gay they want but having pride parades in the streets shouldnt happening. Its like NRA having a yearly parade in your city promoting guns like some people dont like pride parades promoting their sexuality in the face of some people

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Sir I will point this out only olnce. "Honkies" is no less rascist than "spac" "nagger" "....etc

Originally posted by OpenEars123

Originally posted by resoe26
Failed Prophet. I must agree.

Being gay IMO, is not a normal thing. (And yeah, you can call me a religious freak).
I don't have anything against gay people, except I feel that it is wrong that they are gay. But, frankly, I don't think it is all neccesarily their fault. It seems all the gay folks I have known seem to have family issues. Raised by one parent, have an abusive parent, have been molested, etc. Usually it seems like its all a cry for attention. Now we have the media glamorizing it, hell, even glamorizing it on disney channel and other children's cartoons. I have a 2 year old son and hardly ever let him watch television, but now with all of these homosexual references in the cartoons, he might just have to stick with old looney tunes or popeye the sailor man. I don't want my children growing up to think that being a homosexual is the right thing. I was raised in a hispanic family with religious beliefs. I intend to keep it that way.
Media has went off the deep end. It almost seems that now in days young adults think its the "cool thing" to be a homosexual. That they are unique or such. But hey, not bothering me at all. I just feel bad for the people.

You despicable religious freak!! - You asked for it, gave permission so you got it.
How DARE you generalise homosexuality down to people being raised by one parent, abused or molested and the rest of the ABSOLUTE BS that drivelled out of your mouth.

You are the epitome of why so many people hate religion - You have NO IDEA what you are talking about! Here's a question for you; what if your precious 2 year old son turns out to be gay??? I'll tell you what will happen, he will be in torment with no support from his religious freak family, probably turn to drugs or crime, and may even end up in jail or dead.. How does it feel??? To here someone generalise about WHAT YOUR SON COULD BE... Pfffffft you make me fking sick

Well if being homosexual is genetic like so many say on this thread... then I guess I have nothing to worry about because I have no relatives that are "homosexual".
Everything I wrote, Is my opinion solely.... You go ahead and sit there and get mad like a little child because I don't think the SAME AS YOU. Sorry man. Can't do that.
I have no problem with homosexuals, and I don't hate them. But I don't understand how they don't like women. I LOVE women and everthing they can bring to a relationship. Thats all.

I'm just not informed on how a man can like another man... Like..."for real" like another man like that, mostly because I don't. You see?

reply to post by ErtaiNaGia


Sexuality is used for population control, that is true. When the population is low, gay people are discriminated against, when the population is high, it is seen as acceptable. TPTB really have people by the balls.

Notice, also, how female homosexuality is not treated in the same way. It is more likely to be encouraged, and it is less likely to be a crime.