why have they not explained how shooter was captured?

They are not going to release any info.

The case has been sealed from the public.

Let the conspiracy's fly.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Humor me for a sec, what if it was a huge set up? Other poster is right, the guy is donned in full tac gear and a gas mask...how does anyone know for sure its him? He could have easily walked out the door and someone else could have walked in.

Either way you look at it....when the witness gets on the stand they wont be able to say for sure that it was him due to the mask. So any evidence they have is solely based on the shooter at this point, and any of that collected is purely circumstantial at best as anyone could have gone into his apartment to set up the explosive and anyone else could have been wearing the tac gear. And witnesses to shootings only readily identify the gun the shooter was holding, not the shooter himself due to tunnel vision.

Ole Tim McVeigh if he was still alive probably would have spilled the beans by now about how ole lonely him got the backing and the caps for a moving van full of professional grade boom stick.

So the very notion is not as crazy as you would make it out to be its actually quite plausible.

OK, i see two different versions here:

1. Guy was trying to blend in with SWAT team and was grabbed by two cops who recognize two of his items not matching standard outfit. Much detail in this version, and even kudos for this guys from Oates.

2. Guy was sitting in his car (photo of someone in gasmask) and radio recording.

So which one is true?

Im baffled by people who are closing the case. Its ATS for gods sake!

I'm reminded of the Manchurian Candidate.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Actually the person u responded to...was right! U wanna talk about evidence? There literally is NO evidence that he was the shooter...no one in the theater saw his face or heard him speak...guess what that means? THE SHOOTER COULD BE ANYONE! Try to think for yourself please and stop being so gullible just because the media says he was the shooter cuz pal...there are no witnesses that actually saw him.

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I agree. For God sakes, didn't Oswald/Ruby teach any of us anything? I think anything that happened after that taught most of us to say, "question everything!"

At first, I thought people here at ATS were jumping the conspiracy bandwagon with the movie murders. But since I've learned to have an inquiring mind there, I'm starting to see some of the discrepencies in the story.

1) Why is everyone ignoring the witness who insisted they saw someone open the door for the alleged shooter? The Drudge Report went with it, too, which I thought was a big deal. Drudge gets millions of hits per day.

2) Seems convenient that the movie murders occured on the heels of a lot of bank/financial scandal--see post about David Wilcock----pretty amazing stuff has been revealed since July 3rd.

3) Also, the alleged shooter's details don't seem to add up.

Ever notice stories in the big news these days don't really quite add up?

Possibly another way the shooter was captured:

FROM CNN

But he was arrested unarmed while going back out to his car, possibly to retrieve another gun, the source said.

Originally posted by stainlesssteelrat
2. Guy was sitting in his car (photo of someone in gasmask) and radio recording.

I heard of a photo of him in a car twice now... where's this photo??
Can someone please post it here?

Originally posted by sayzaar

Originally posted by doobydoll

Originally posted by TechVampyre
He gave him self up. Next time you post try using better grammar.

That wasn't a very nice comment.

Maybe the OP's first language isn't English - and even if it is, does it really matter?

As a matter of fact i believe it does matter. If his first language is not english then ok, but he could still use a spell checker. If he is english then he could still use a spell checker, but better still, learn his own language. The internet is becoming full of junk spelling !

Sorry to go off topic.

WHAT IF the spell checker is us & SPELLS COLOR not colour uk or they are dyslexic like i am .

Originally posted by tamusan
I've never had this thought before. Suddenly, I am starting to believe every capable American should get their concealed carry permit. They should also educate themselves about firearm responsibilty, safety, and use.

Why this sudden extreme view? I see it a better option than the inevitable disarming of the law abiding citizens, and/or increased law enforcement protection. If that were to happen, I expect we won't even be able to go to the store for milk without getting scanned and jackbooted around.

There is another side to that, what happens when a room fills with smoke and automatic gun fire?
200 idiots with guns start randomly shooting and no way they are identifying targets or using any sort of rationality.
I see no need to disarm the public, but military style weapons belong in the hands of the military imo, it won't stop these incidents but it will go along way to reducing the death toll.

Why is everyone so shocked he might have given up, nutters do that all the time. Kill people and calmly wait for the police or hand themselves in even after they have got away.
Trying to understand why an insane person does insane things is insane.

Originally posted by WorkingClassMan

Originally posted by tamusan
I've never had this thought before. Suddenly, I am starting to believe every capable American should get their concealed carry permit. They should also educate themselves about firearm responsibilty, safety, and use.

Why this sudden extreme view? I see it a better option than the inevitable disarming of the law abiding citizens, and/or increased law enforcement protection. If that were to happen, I expect we won't even be able to go to the store for milk without getting scanned and jackbooted around.

Why is everyone so shocked he might have given up, nutters do that all the time. Kill people and calmly wait for the police or hand themselves in even after they have got away.
Trying to understand why an insane person does insane things is insane.

because you dont spend countless hours/days booby trapping your apartment just to give up at the end. Why are you so shocked that people find that suspicious? When has a nutter ever done anything like that? The answer is never. You're just either being a contrarian or are really obtuse.

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i love it - people claiming that the pheripheral acts of a man on a killing spree were " irrational "

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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i love it - people claiming that the pheripheral acts of a man on a killing spree were " irrational "

Agreed....totally agree.

Originally posted by Ear-Responsible
I thought they did say how he was captured? Pretty sure I heard them say he went and sat in a car and waited for the cops to arrive and gave up without a struggle.

That's exactly what happened.

Originally posted by darkbake

Originally posted by Ear-Responsible
I thought they did say how he was captured? Pretty sure I heard them say he went and sat in a car and waited for the cops to arrive and gave up without a struggle.

That's exactly what happened.

and just how do you know thats exactly what happened wre you there?sourses please.

I watched the BBC news a couple of hours ago where they showed footage of Holmes in court. That guy looked heavily sedated and really didn't seem to be aware of where he was. He was on another planet far, far away.

They were reporting that he wasn't co-operating with police and refused to speak to anyone, and that he was being held in solitary for his own safety.

But if he was led away quietly upon arrest, and owned up to booby-trapping his apartment, isn't that co-operating?

And another thing I don't get - why would he all of a sudden give himself up and spill the beans about the booby-trap, then all of a sudden clam up and refuse to co-operate?

Then again, if they're pumping him full of sedatives he will be unable to co-operate.

BBC News - Holmes in court

Originally posted by doobydoll
I watched the BBC news a couple of hours ago where they showed footage of Holmes in court. That guy looked heavily sedated and really didn't seem to be aware of where he was. He was on another planet far, far away.

They were reporting that he wasn't co-operating with police and refused to speak to anyone, and that he was being held in solitary for his own safety.

But if he was led away quietly upon arrest, and owned up to booby-trapping his apartment, isn't that co-operating?

And another thing I don't get - why would he all of a sudden give himself up and spill the beans about the booby-trap, then all of a sudden clam up and refuse to co-operate?

Then again, if they're pumping him full of sedatives he will be unable to co-operate

BBC News - Holmes in court

i noticed that too,deffenitly sedated and outa it(looked like ronald mcdonald on percocete)

The behavior of this man after what he is alleged to have done is bizarre. I have a suspicion that he was hypnotised prior to the murders and the 'joker' was his trigger word. His apartment was possibly booby-trapped in order to cleanse it of any evidence that might point to the purpose of his 'mission'
I don't know why he would have been drugged - I think it more likely that he is still under hypnosis.
Sorry if that sounds off-the-wall, but there's something that doesn't stack up.

They probably had this guy in interrogation over night and he is sleep deprived. We probably won't learn all of the details for quite some time

I agree