Christians: What Will You Do?

All I want to do here is ask one question. Obviously, the world is in deep crap. Things are going wrong everywhere, and countries are gearing up for whatever. The only people who can save the world, is us. We have to change the world for the better. Together, not apart. And there's one sect in particular, one group, that I post this question to.

Christians, Judaics, all followers of Abrahamic faiths: What are you going to do to save this world and the people in it? What will you do to stop the coming chaos? How will you help to save our planet?

That's all.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
All I want to do here is ask one question. Obviously, the world is in deep crap. Things are going wrong everywhere, and countries are gearing up for whatever. The only people who can save the world, is us. We have to change the world for the better. Together, not apart. And there's one sect in particular, one group, that I post this question to.

Christians, Judaics, all followers of Abrahamic faiths: What are you going to do to save this world and the people in it? What will you do to stop the coming chaos? How will you help to save our planet?

That's all.

Why are you limiting the question to those specific religions?

Just wondering.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Have you read the Bible?
Christians have no intention or obligation to save the world.

You're asking this kind of question to those with strict adherence to eschatology. Most of them would want the world to end, not try and stop it from happening. lol Now I hope others see the audacity of that.

And yeah, why only those religions?

reply to post by crawdad1914


Because those are the ones that believe Jesus will save us.

That's the reason for the question.

reply to post by AdamsMurmur


You want the world to end? You don't think it can be saved?

Christians have no intention or obligation to save the world.

Is this right, Christians? When it comes down to it, when the world is falling apart and we can either save it or be destroyed along with it, you're going to do nothing? You're going down without a fight?

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Obviously, the world is in deep crap. Things are going wrong everywhere, and countries are gearing up for whatever. The only people who can save the world, is us. We have to change the world for the better. Together, not apart.

Yes, we do. To all get on the same page...and DECIDE to do what's right. No more greed, hate, intolerance, starvation, slavery, abuse. Just STOP IT! Ack. It is heartbreaking. I was, not long ago, looking forward to being a grandparent....my two kids are grown, healthy, productive citizens. I got to the place (during menopause) of being excited about having grandchildren. I spent many, many years caring for children -- my own, others' -- and working with first-time parents about how best to encourage and expand the brains of their kids.

Now? I'm rather hoping my kids don't decide to have kids. What an awful place.

On the other hand, my kids have their acts together, and would be fantastic parents.

It's a horrible situation right now. Thanks for the OP. s/f.

Our only "job" is to bring souls to Christ. The "world" is God's problem. Besides, what is there to save? The world is a horrid and disgusting place. There is no RIGHT or WRONG here. The world and the vast majority of it's inhabitants are lovers of evil, lovers of self, and haters of good. I ask again, what is there worth saving?

Originally posted by AfterInfinity

Christians have no intention or obligation to save the world.

Is this right, Christians? When it comes down to it, when the world is falling apart and we can either save it or be destroyed along with it, you're going to do nothing? You're going down without a fight?

Not exactly.

Christians should always strive for justice, uprightness, righteousness, and peace. These are the marks of someone walking the walk and not just talking the talk.

But christians of the same sort will also follow the example of those in the earliest church, and not exhibit fear or scrambling in the world - the only sure thing about this life is that it ends, regardless of the details. Yes, we believe that Jesus will save us and the world, but that's not primarily in the temporal sense. Depending on our varying interpretations of Revelation, etc., most of humanity will not survive war, various suffering, and natural disaster...most of this likely of our own making. As the bible says, if it weren't for the shortening of those days, NO flesh would survive - and most won't.

We don't expect a reprieve from the bad things to come - we're taught to endure and persevere, in love and fearlessness. We should definitely do our part to help those around us and live this world in the way we would prefer to see it, but I don't think that's quite what's being gotten at here.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by AdamsMurmur

 

You want the world to end? You don't think it can be saved?

Not at all (to the first question). I love humans and this planet. Also, I'm not a "Christian", but a whole slew of things (including a gnostic, a pantheist, a scientist, and an omnist), and so don't reside under a single philosophy or faith.


Humanity is in our hands. If it goes under, it's our ineptness that made that happen. Likewise, if it thrives again, it's our unity that made that happen. We're fully capable of turning things around, if we collectively choose to.

reply to post by DarthMuerte

I ask again, what is there worth saving?

The future, for our descendants? The Earth, because she is alive?
Yikes. I am aghast at this sentiment. Waiting around for some external force that may or may not exist to "save the day", and sitting back and saying, "Well, I'm born-again, so I'll just wait it out without taking further action, cause I already saved myself by doing this ritual" is a travesty.

Step up. You are no more "saved" than anyone. To depend on some imaginary event, and some imaginary guy, to make things "okay" is a cop out.

Sorry, folks, but my ire is up.....

please.

REALLY?

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Our only "job" is to bring souls to Christ. The "world" is God's problem. Besides, what is there to save? The world is a horrid and disgusting place. There is no RIGHT or WRONG here. The world and the vast majority of it's inhabitants are lovers of evil, lovers of self, and haters of good. I ask again, what is there worth saving?

While I can understand the sentiment - I get wrapped up in it from time to time myself - I also have to strongly rebut it.

First off, it's primarily the world of MEN that is such an ugly thing. The natural world is a beautiful thing and testament to god, even if unpleasant things sometime happen in it. It is primarily society that is nasty.

And even in the world of men, there is much beauty and wonder to love. There are truly kind and amazing people of all stripes out there, even if they are outweighted and overshadowed by the petty and cruel in large part.

It takes a lot of effort to focus on the good, but we need to and it IS there. There is much worth saving, even in the temporal and unlasting world. We are to be ambassadors and stewards here, and that means actively working to make it a better place.

reply to post by Bone75

Have you read the Bible?

Christians have no intention or obligation to save the world.

Since when?
Jesus said he came to save the world.
He set up the church through his apostles, apparently to carry on his work.
Until 150 years ago Christians believed it was their obligation to bring in the millennium.
So you are basing your opinion on what is essentially a modern aberration of the Rapture cult where the members don't believe they have anything to do with that millennium, or that it is only symbolic of life they will have in heaven with Jesus once the Rapture happens.
Mainstream Christianity has none of that, and are busy saving the world.

Well to be honest with you, the guy who said the world isnt worth saving is kind of right, if you look at it from an loveless point of view. Christians live awaiting the return of Christ always, and we do what we were commanded, which was to help others and create disciples. We reach out to not only our community and country, but others as well. What do you think all those missionaries do? We do what we can to better the lives of others. No, the world cant be saved, itll all end eventually whether we like it or not, it is beyond our control. We cant save everyone in the world, but well save who we can. And as a person, I am ecstatic for the return of Christ.

reply to post by isaac7777

We cant save everyone in the world, but well save who we can. And as a person, I am ecstatic for the return of Christ.

And how will you "save" them? By telling them "don't worry, just dunk under this water and say 'I believe', and you'll be fine"?

Really? NO!

We all have to step up, and NOW! We have to insist that others treat people with mercy, compassion, empathy, and care. There is no "escape"!! What a cop out...just waiting for some imaginary day to come and wipe out everything.

News flash: It will be World War Three, not Jesus.

Yikes.

reply to post by isaac7777

. . . Christians live awaiting the return of Christ always . . .

Despite the pop-culture phenomenon of "Left Behind" not all Christians buy into that cultish belief.
I think all that new philosophy is the work of Satan to set up a counterfeit Christianity in order to destroy the souls of those who buy into it and neglect their Christian duty, one of which is to save the world by leading people from wickedness. Fake pop-culture religion leads people into hell believing in cheap grace to get raptured without having any personal growth or accomplishment.

*sigh* I knew it.

We're totally boned.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

TPTB are "banking" on the christians doing "nothing"....thats how we got in this mess.


This beautiful planet has some beautiful people and other creatures on it and anyone who sits back and lets it all be destroyed, dosn't deserve heaven. Saving souls is the devils work..

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by crawdad1914

 

Because those are the ones that believe Jesus will save us.

That's the reason for the question.

How does believing in Jesus will save them from the second death, equate to Christians having anything to do with the world the way it is?

Also, please share what you are doing to stop the chaos as well?