George Takei's blog on the BSA reaffirmation of the ban on LGBT Scouts & Leaders

reply to post by HandyDandy


We cant possibly weed out the perverts until they are caught. Homosexuals can be weeded out by self identification immediately.
I cannot possibly speak for the entire BSA but I can speak for the entire Chickasaw council which is a very large chunck of scouting. If this ban was ever lifted then the parents and leaders in the entire Chickasaw council would leave and the homosexuals would just have it by themselves. We have had our meetings and are very united. The government is powerless about this issue as well. They cannot force a private Christian organization to accept anyone they do not want to.
So again I would suggest that the homosexuals and homosexual supporters start their own group and just ban heterosexuals. It would be just fine by me.

reply to post by Christian Voice


It's no more immoral or ignorant than you pushing your Christian beliefs onto others.

Wahh. Wahh.

Go live in a fundamentalist country if it bothers you so much.

Meh. Private organization, so if anyone does not like it they should not join or support them. The freedom of association goes both ways.

reply to post by NavyDoc


I would imagine if someone does not agree with them that they dont support them anyway. It is not a publicly funded organization. True they have fundraisers to get money for camp and other things but things are paid for by parents.

Originally posted by knoledgeispower
Do your kids go to school? Do they play sports or other extra ciricular activity? Do they go to church? Guess what!?! You could be potentially putting them in the care of a heterosexual pedophile.

How ignorant to think that homosexuality instantly means that you are a pedophile. There are as many heterosexual pedophiles out there as there are homosexual pedophiles. Pedophiles, of any sexual orientation, chose jobs where they will be around little kids.

Just to be clear on this.

Pedophile is its own Orientation - - it is neither heterosexual or homosexual.

The attraction is children. Often by availability not gender. Pedophiles put themselves in roles that allows them access to children. When the Catholic church let girls be "choirboys" - - - there was an increase in molestation of girls. Prior to that only boys were accessible.

If a Pedophile targets a same gender child - - - it is referred to as a homosexual ACT. But the orientation is still Pedophile. If a Pedophile targets an opposite gender child - - it is referred to as a heterosexual ACT. The sexual orientation is still Pedophile.

Neither a homosexual or a heterosexual is a Pedophile.

reply to post by The Sword


I am not pushing my beliefs onto anyone. I am not pissing and moaning to homosexual groups to let me in. I am not walking the streets or on tv recruiting folks. Anytime a Christian show or artist or anything shows up homosexuals piss about it until it's gone yet homosexuality is shoved down our throats by the entertainment industry everywhere you look.

Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by The Sword

 

I am not pushing my beliefs onto anyone. I am not pissing and moaning to homosexual groups to let me in. I am not walking the streets or on tv recruiting folks. Anytime a Christian show or artist or anything shows up homosexuals piss about it until it's gone yet homosexuality is shoved down our throats by the entertainment industry everywhere you look.

I'll see if I can apply that to Equality for children.

reply to post by knoledgeispower


Aren't all these sicko's molesting kids supposedly "straight " anyways ?

So how does this make sense?

So the homosexuals are claiming that nobody has the right to refuse them access and they can go anywhere they want to and have to be accepted.

Yet they don't have to accept anybody they don't want to accept.

What hypocrites.

As usual the people who claim to be open minded are actually not.

•Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10).

•33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).


•There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.

•Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).

•73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).

•Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22).

•Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.

www.traditioninaction.org...

Given statistics like these, yeah I'd group a large number of homosexuals as pedophiles

reply to post by Christian Voice


Homosexual statistics from a Christian site.

Oh yeah! That's credible.

Not to mention they are 20 years old.

And since homosexuals are only about 10% on the entire population - - - pretty ridiculous stats.

reply to post by Turkenstein


Your ignorance is astounding. There is a big difference between homosexuality and pedophilia.

reply to post by Christian Voice


They are funded by THE UNITED WAY. Yes it is not government funding, but it is public funding.

Here's my issue with this.

We know from brain scans that gay males have more female-like brains. The reverse is true for gay females.

We don't normally allow woman to supervise boys when it's boy things they're doing, especially when the relationship is intimate like in the example of a boy scout troop. For example, most (or all) basketball coaches for males are male themselves. This is probably not just by accident!!

What this means is that gay males should not lead boys in similar conditions. For example, a gay man should not coach a male basketball team. This is consistent with that example.

How do you minimize the chances that the scout leader will molest your son?

First of all, to be safe, you don't want a scout leader that has any attraction to males (of any sort). If the scout leader -does- have an attraction then you want to make sure it's not pedophilic.

These're invented numbers to express an idea:
a) Chance that a male or female scout leader is pedophile: 3%
b) Chance that a male or female scout leader is gay: 9%

What this means is that if you outright pick a male to be the boy scout leader then you're 88% sure to be safe since it's 88% likely that he will not be gay or a pedophile.

Some more invented numbers to express an idea:
a) Chance that a gay male scout leader will molest a boy: 3%
b) Chance that a gay female scout leader will molest a boy: 0%
(this assumes that they're not pedophilic)
(... in (a) I added 3% to denote sexual curiosity even though it's not the result of pedophilia)

What this means is that if a gay boy scout leader is female, she's less likely to molest any of the boys precisely because there's no sexual curiosity since she's attracted to females.

These (invented) numbers say that a heterosexual female scout leader would have a 3% chance of molesting a boy. Note that she's -not- pedophilic. This 3% is not based on fact, just fear. It's based on the assumption that non-pedophilic people can still molest underage persons if they're attracted to their sex. This is the case if the relationship is close, like in the case of boy scout troops. The idea is that they become sexually curious and/or confused by the close relationship with them.

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone

Yet they don't have to accept anybody they don't want to accept.

What hypocrites.

As usual the people who claim to be open minded are actually not.

You shouldn't blanket the LGBTQ

I've read your exact sentiments on LGBTQ blogs - - - chastising their own members.

Just saying.

reply to post by groingrinder


The BSA are not funded by the United Way. Parents pay for their childrens things and trips. Fundraisers make up the rest. I do not know where you got your information but it is wrong.

Originally posted by jonnywhite

What this means is that gay males should not lead boys when they're doing boy things. For example, a gay man should not coach a male basketball team. This is consistent with what I'm saying.

Yes - - by all means - - let's continue promoting the Neanderthal stereotype male.

There are feminine hetero men and macho homosexual men.

Most gays you probably wouldn't know they were gay even if you met them.

Haven't scouts evolved to interests in computers/science/gaming - etc?

My grandson is straight - - - never had any interest in sports. He likes to read.

Funny (not) that one of the things Reparative Therapy requires is that gay men play sports. If you're tall they force you to play basketball.

Originally posted by Christian Voice
There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Lie bolded by me.

I have been to plenty gay pride parades and have NEVER seen NAMBLA having a contingency there. They would get boo'ed and probably beaten up by the more militant gays.

reply to post by Annee


Huh?

I don't go to those blogs. The only blogs I go to are Concept Ships for their star ship art and one or two others that have to do with star trek and that's it. I don't go to those kinds of blogs. I think you have me confused with somebody else.

I stay out of those blogs because I have unpopular opinions of them and they would ban me in an instant because they'd call me a bigot for my unpopular views.

I'm no fan of homosexuals, and never will be. I'm no homosexual defender, but I am against discrimination.

Because I think it's wrong to force people to accept you, and that's what homosexuals want, is to force people to accept them. The article in the OP is proof of that, and there's numerous others like that.

If you want people to accept you, you don't force yourself on to people. All it does is generate more resentment and hostility towards you.

It doesn't matter if you're homosexual or not, that is human nature.

reply to post by Annee

I do not mean to be offensive, but please reread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It was a long post and it took me a while to collect my thoughts.

I often re-edit posts. It's not your fault. I'm not being critical or insulting.

Please note many people have mistaken me for a gay and I have gays in my family. I am a weak sort of male so some people think that because I don't carry a gun I'm somehow gay.

Also many gays don't act gay. They can talk normally and most won't know it. I know exactly what you're talking about. I want you to reread my post because I want you to understand that if -I- had a child in any intimate group (basketball, boy scout troop, soccer, football, swimming, etc) I would not want the leader or coach to have any attraction at all to the same sex/gender as my child. Did you know, for example, that the largest indicator of a raper is close relationship to the victim!!! That's how most rapes and molestations happen. It's not just some random street person.