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A few points to consider though, if a child grows up around bad people doing bad things will they automatically do the same??
i don't think they will! its a matter of strength of mind ...if there weak minded they will turn out bad and yes those people are scumbags in my eyes...there are plenty of people who had childhoods you could only see in horror films and they choose to stand up and do better and those people have my fully backing and admiration !!!
Originally posted by EqualizerUK
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
I don't buy the "mentally ill excuse" as its just that an excuse!
I don't drink smoke or do illegal drugs, i have visited the docs twice in the last ten years as i eat right and live a clean life, these people are scum bags that are to weak to say no ....
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Originally posted by Kapkalna
reply to post by EqualizerUK
A few points to consider though, if a child grows up around bad people doing bad things will they automatically do the same??
You're asking if a child grows up around drug users, I think the child would be more able to separate themselves from that life. They wouldn't feel the high from the drug, but would see all the negative.
i don't think they will! its a matter of strength of mind ...if there weak minded they will turn out bad and yes those people are scumbags in my eyes...there are plenty of people who had childhoods you could only see in horror films and they choose to stand up and do better and those people have my fully backing and admiration !!!
So people who seek your admiration avoid drugs, everybody else just gets hooked to reusing communal needles. I dont know anybody who brags about being a drug user. Nor do they consider you calling them bad people and weak minded online. As I said, get your affairs in order, stop trying to kick drug users in the gut. They dont want to be where they are. You having this much vengeance for their problems makes me doubt you're going to avoid that sort of life.
Get yourself out of your neighbourhood. Even if only for a few months, on a foreign exchange / travel arrangement. You'll be able to get your head in order. The impact these people have against your life will be diminished, replaced with a sense of independence.
Originally posted by mainidh
Originally posted by EqualizerUK
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
I don't buy the "mentally ill excuse" as its just that an excuse!
I don't drink smoke or do illegal drugs, i have visited the docs twice in the last ten years as i eat right and live a clean life, these people are scum bags that are to weak to say no ....
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Yeah I read this thread last night before anyone had responded... and thought it best to just ignore it.
But you're a class act. And if you're an example to live by, I'd rather be a scumbag thanks very much.
Originally posted by EqualizerUK
Your argument is weak..
Black people are not more likely to commit crime.
Just because a junkie maybe a doctor, a cop, a street weeper there still a weak willed scum bag and thats a fact !
Your uncle wasting is life away on a park bench is very much a part of the problem...a weak willed person sees him and sees he's off his face and thinks "that looks a good way to get away from the realities of life" and joins him.....so now we have two weak willed people on the bench.
After maybe three months two more join them one being violent and the alcohol makes that person worse....he or she goes out and stabs a pregnant mother to be .....you see where im going with this?
Originally posted by Dunndigidy
reply to post by EqualizerUK
In the title, it is supposed to be 'their' not 'there' and some people don't consider those things to be a waste of time.
Thats a nonsense reply
Originally posted by JailTales
Originally posted by EqualizerUK
Your argument is weak..
Black people are not more likely to commit crime.
Actually they are, as far as statistics are concerned. So, are you prepared to slander all black people because some are raised in poverty and go on to become criminals? You seem to be attacking all drug users because some are criminals.
Just because a junkie maybe a doctor, a cop, a street weeper there still a weak willed scum bag and thats a fact !
Maybe, but that doesn't make them a criminal thief, violent thug or murderer, as you've implied on several occasions.
Your uncle wasting is life away on a park bench is very much a part of the problem...a weak willed person sees him and sees he's off his face and thinks "that looks a good way to get away from the realities of life" and joins him.....so now we have two weak willed people on the bench.
My uncle didn't sit on a park bench, he had a house which he bought and paid for, as many addicts do. This is what I'm trying to convey to you, not every drug user or addict fits into this neat little image you have in your head of a tramp sat on a bench with cider in a black bag, a needle hanging out the arm, and a machete tucked in his socks ready to murder passers by for a packet of amber leaf
After maybe three months two more join them one being violent and the alcohol makes that person worse....he or she goes out and stabs a pregnant mother to be .....you see where im going with this?
I see where you're trying to go, but I know that you're wrong given my experiences with numerous alcoholics, and my own experience with alcohol. Alcohol does not cause people to run around stealing from others, or stabbing pregnant mothers.
Your perception of addicts is very cartoon character esque. It's like you've watched too many hollywood movies and have lost all grasp on the actual reality of society.
If you think drug users are scum I can't change your mind on that because you're obviously a bit dense mate, but I can correct you on your objective nonsense. Most alcoholics fund their own habit. Most alcoholics work. Most alcoholics actually are pretty difficult to distinguish from non-drinkers, unless you have that personal access to their private life. An alcoholic who lives by himself might even hide bottles of drink around the house, they're actually exceptionally secretive about their problem because they understand their perception. It's rare for an alcoholic to broadcast their problems on a park bench, whether stabbing pregnant women or not.
But of course you know better. I'm probably just making up that the alcoholics I know are otherwise decent people, my uncle really would sneak out at night and rape old ladies, stealing their purses in the process, right
Your black and white view of the world makes me laugh.
Originally posted by Kapkalna
reply to post by EqualizerUK
Thats a nonsense reply
Thats what I thought. Youre staging a mock discussion, to disrespect other users and make yourself more presentable to yourself. You adopt the good ideas and then discard the person behind them. If I wanted to talk to a 14 year old version of myself, I'd probably call my cousin.
Originally posted by Kapkalna
reply to post by EqualizerUK
Thats a nonsense reply
Thats what I thought. Youre staging a mock discussion, to disrespect other users and make yourself more presentable to yourself. You adopt the good ideas and then discard the person behind them. If I wanted to talk to a 14 year old version of myself, I'd probably call my cousin.
....i have been to Iraq and Afghanistan and seen alot more of life than you have
and yet my view of drug users is the same as when i started this thread.
My head and mind frame are just fine, maybe you should visit the victims of the junkies who rob / rape / steal / spread diseases etc etc
(and yes i know non drug users do this to and there utter scum bags too).
I fine it amazing that some people totally ignore junkies behaviour and say " its not there fault ...they need help....blah blah blah " get in the real world and stop singing from the PC hand book.
Originally posted by EqualizerUK
Your second point about them not doing anything illegal buying crack is illegal....that is a fact !
those that hide or try to keep it a secret about there addiction are still weak by having to use....
My "park bench" comment is one of many i could have made about different scenarios where one persons open addiction and drug use can sometimes spur the weak minded of our society to do the same.
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