Do western people have the right to complain about Muslim people settling in their countries?

Muslims should have the same right as jews and christians.
In fact, muslims kill much less than jews or christians.
Or did you mean to question brown men, then I still got bad news for you...
Ignore the media, you will become enlightened.

Originally posted by Bixxi3

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

They come to our nation, some of them, and they whine and moan and groan that we must change substantial things to accommodate them.

Are they not allowed to moan and groan just let the rest of us?
I always been proud to be English and one of the reasons, is how English having a good moan is.

They come here to escape oppression and have a good life. yet it would seem that once they get here they shouldn't expect the same freedoms we have.


Also to the OP can i see some proof for sharia law? Because thats a load ofcrap. It has never and will never be legally accepted here.

The majority experiences i've have with Indians and Pakistanis is that there just like us. Some are cocks some are ignorant but most just want whats best for there family.

edit on 14-7-2012 by Bixxi3 because: (no reason given)

Well, to sum it all up in one word? No.

Let them do their time in the process, take the tests, stand before Old Glory and swear the Oath. When they are U.S. Citizens, they are more than welcome to whine and make fools of themselves with the rest of us. It's an American tradition. That's just it though. It's an American tradition. ...in my humble opinion.

reply to post by AnIntellectualRedneck


Yours is the mindset of most of us in the Western world however most here are too afraid to admit it for fear of a backlash. I, myself agree with you whole heartedly although I disagree in regards to Muslim women wearing the hajib and covering their faces. This is not Islamic law but an old custom first worn by the Hebrew women and was also worn by Greek and Roman women of the Elite as they stepped out of their palaces. This custom is not welcome in our countries, we have progressed along way from that.

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Lol i guess your right it
Its just from my own personal experiences they seem to complain about the same things as us.

I guess its all subjective.

Reply to post by AnIntellectualRedneck

That post is garbage. Please show me some examples of the things you mentioned happening. I have never heard of any of that going on in America. That sounds like some xenophobic bullcrap propaganda from someone afraid of change. Also America has no fixed culture. And most of what is in the mainstream has had influences from many many many different cultures of the decades.


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Being from the US.. I don't really like hearing:

Press 1 for English


Just saying.. learn English ... hell broken English is good enough for me.

I love all people but for gods sake.. if you want to NOT be scolded .. learn the country's native language.

reply to post by cllj7

I often see racist remarks about the incident or event.

Yea, its always racism isnt it?

When a Christian wants to offer a public prayer, its a Civil Rights Violation.
When a Muslim does it, its hailed as our progress towards tolerance.
I am neither but I am sick of the double standards

No they don't have the right to complain, I find it ridiculous that being born on this planet also means you are not allowed to freely enter a piece of land and live there...its everybody's planet!


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I like to go uninvited to fancy dress parties, and then force everyone to wear a santa outfit. My rights damn it, I chose to go there, you only hosted the party.

Wake up and smell the baco.. I mean coffee.

^ That is the mindset you're talking about op, and NO they have no right to complain about the state of things after they make the conscious decision to migrate.

"Hmm, I think I'll move away from the holy lands, where my brothers and sisters are my family, and move to a place where I will have to fight to live the way I have been living here all of my life. Sounds choice. Lets hop of that boat - it will ensure we get in quicker than those fools with visas."

Originally posted by domasio
No they don't have the right to complain, I find it ridiculous that being born on this planet also means you are not allowed to freely enter a piece of land and live there...its everybody's planet!

I wish.. Sadly it's not the practical case. We're born into servitude whether we agree to it or not. There is no get out of jail card in life. It shouldn't be this way, but centuries of rule by a few has created a no win situation.

At least in Aus.. Bound by law, burdened by enforced responsibility, trapped at birth.

The only thing that is missing is the battery cages to keep us producing money. cluck cluck cluck...

Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by cllj7

 

I often see racist remarks about the incident or event.

Yea, its always racism isnt it?

When a Christian wants to offer a public prayer, its a Civil Rights Violation.
When a Muslim does it, its hailed as our progress towards tolerance.
I am neither but I am sick of the double standards

In what way is asking another religion to adapt in your country racist? Christianity and Islam in itself are not races so insulting one can't be racist.
I 100% agree with your comment Juggernog and there are so many double standards going on when it comes to this topic.

reply to post by cllj7


Do people have the right to be a bunch of bloody bigots?

The answer is a loud NO!

#ing Brits. You're still smarting from the fact that you don't run the world anymore.

But you know what?

No one should at this point because the world is worthless as it is.

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There are too many fools on ATS. Too many racist bigots.

They come here when no one will give them a serious audience (and rightfully so!).

I see that the OP is in judgmental Christian mode. Gotta love those hypocrites, those so-called sons and daughters of Jesus.

And how they claim that the world hates them so much. Not too hard to see why.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by cllj7

 

Do people have the right to be a bunch of bloody bigots?

The answer is a loud NO!

#ing Brits. You're still smarting from the fact that you don't run the world anymore.

Well that's an incredibly bigoted and overly generalised statement if ever i've heard one.

There's so much hypocrisy in your post, it's spilling over the edges.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by domasio

 

There are too many fools on ATS. Too many racist bigots.

They come here when no one will give them a serious audience (and rightfully so!).

I see that the OP is in judgmental Christian mode. Gotta love those hypocrites, those so-called sons and daughters of Jesus.

And how they claim that the world hates them so much. Not too hard to see why.

I didn't find the topic to be racist or bigoted, I just read something out loud that the majority of us Brits are thinking everyday and rightly so.

When a Muslim moves to a country they should adapt, it's only fair. They should not be allowed to force their laws and culture upon us and get better standards than others because the Government wishes to maintain an "Image"
Just like when i moved out of England into the country i am in now which holds the largest population of Muslims in the world and is itself an Islamic country, I adapted. I didn't join all the other Brits and Westerners and demand our laws and culture be forced about this country. I respected it was theirs and adapted to their way of life.

Islam is not a race - it is generally a religious terrorist mafia out to enforce Islam on all who do not believe in their religion to convert to Islam or be killed.

Its ironic how many Islamic people leave their home country because of persecution and migrate to a place where they adopt the same old BS customs and laws that persecuted them in the first place.

In Islamic countries you either adapt to Islamic laws or you die. You are not allowed to be or act Western, Buddhist, Christian, modern, feminist, gay, or any other religion other than Islamic. You cannot build a Temple to Venus, a Temple of Judaism, any other Pagan religion other than an Islamic Mosque.

Islam is a pagan religion with pagan roots. Some would say it is Satanic.

Western/ European Law is not recognized in Islamic countries. Islam intends to Islamize all the world to their view point even so far as to tear down any and all World Historic Places of worship, Pyramid tourist travel, in order to paint the world BLOOD RED.

They cut their children in ceremony without fear of arrest, they kill their women in public without arrest or trial, they even hang children and behead those who do not convert/ or repent (if given the chance to repent).

Islam is the scourge of the World. Slavery was invented by Arabic people who kidnapped and sold even neighbors. These people lie when they say they respect and love other races and religions. Islam is all about control and MONEY.

If Islam doesn't want to be known for their barbaric tactics then the Religion Islam needs to pay reparations to those people who their religious followers have harmed. Even rebuilding a Jewish Temple would be a beginning of their showing their remorse at how some of their followers act.

The Doors to the Temple of the End of the World need to be rebuilt by those same Islamic barbarians who tore it down.

I even go so far as to say the Catholics should also pay reparations to those they have harmed, governments that abuse their own people or others (even in military actions) should be made responsible for their actions.
All bystanders should be considered as innocents instead of cannon fodder.

Originally posted by theChristianatheist

Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by cllj7

 

I often see racist remarks about the incident or event.

Yea, its always racism isnt it?

When a Christian wants to offer a public prayer, its a Civil Rights Violation.
When a Muslim does it, its hailed as our progress towards tolerance.
I am neither but I am sick of the double standards

In what way is asking another religion to adapt in your country racist? Christianity and Islam in itself are not races so insulting one can't be racist.
I 100% agree with your comment Juggernog and there are so many double standards going on when it comes to this topic.

sorry, I used the wrong word really. I didn't learn English to a fluent level until my mid teens

What right did the Christians have coming over here and imposing their lifestyle and opinions on the the people of Albion?

Originally posted by cllj7

Originally posted by theChristianatheist

Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by cllj7

 

I often see racist remarks about the incident or event.

Yea, its always racism isnt it?

When a Christian wants to offer a public prayer, its a Civil Rights Violation.
When a Muslim does it, its hailed as our progress towards tolerance.
I am neither but I am sick of the double standards

In what way is asking another religion to adapt in your country racist? Christianity and Islam in itself are not races so insulting one can't be racist.
I 100% agree with your comment Juggernog and there are so many double standards going on when it comes to this topic.

sorry, I used the wrong word really. I didn't learn English to a fluent level until my mid teens

Your level of English is great to say it is not your native language Juggernog. no need to say sorry.

Originally posted by AndyMayhew
What right did the Christians have coming over here and imposing their lifestyle and opinions on the the people of Albion?

None whatsoever. Religion of any kind should be a choice. When the Dutch invaded Indonesia and forced Christianity onto it's people they instead turned to Islam because the Imams came in peace. If the Dutch didn't force I'm sure this country would be allot different today. Invading and killing in the name of your God, Logic owned by the Illogical.

Sorry, I hit the reply button twice. I didn't mean to double post.