Biochips implanted in first humans as a 'medical benefit'.

I recently received a letter from my son's school stating that they are introducing a new "thumb recognition process", Basically they will be given a bank account of sorts that they can only access with there thumb print, And only pay for lunches etc with their thumb prints.

Considering my thoughts on that was ridiculous, I would not be surprised at all if the "thumb recognition process" Turn's into the "biochip recognition process".

Crazy stuff in my opinion!

Originally posted by ProtectedWitness
My pets have them. If they ever get lost, they will be returned to me instead of being put down because of their ID chips. If the government wants to know where we are at, they can access our phones to do that. But I don't really have any worries since I don't break any laws.

My Wife saved two cats from a local shelter a few years back. The shelter implanted the cats. One died of cancer at the implant site and the Vet sent samples in to a lab, out of his own pocket to confirm. At first they denied the danger even though the test animals had also had issues. Still they denied it. Then they admitted it was something to do with the lubricant used. Turns out the chip is safe but the they used a lubricating compound that was not.

Now the second cat is developing throat problems just like the first one did before the cancer was discovered that killed it. I think it's headed the same way.

That was when they first started doing this and it was covered up, but since my wives cat was involved I know more about it. No way to prove it and they know it. I tried to ask the Vet a question and he changed the subject even though he asked for the samples and paid for the testing out of his own pocket. I don't think he did that because it was not true. Now with a second cat, implanted at the same time having symptoms?

It should be safe enough now though.

So the mark of the beast is well in full gear and ready for deployment into the bodies of willing Americans.

Already is been prof that ID chips under the skin causes tumors in animals and cancer.

Since 2004 the push of the verichip has been stopped by the FDA due to the fact that the company refuse to include the side effects of their product.

“The potential risks to health associated with the device are: adverse tissue reaction, migration of implanted transponder, … failure of implanted transponder, … electromagnetic interference, electrical hazards, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) incompatibility and needle stick,”

www.wnd.com...

But the biggest payoff was when Obamacare was passed that tax payer money was used to the research of ID chips, see I already know the agenda behind it.

From medical drug delivery to medical records and personal information the agenda is well in the way.

But I will be one of those that will no allow that crap in my body at any time for any circumstances.

Chip Implants Linked to Animal Tumors

www.washingtonpost.com...

Dogs suffer cancer after ID chipping

www.wnd.com...

In the sense of the 'Mark of the Beast' concepts and my personal desire to really not get that one wrong....even if I don't consider it likely to be accurate, I'll pass on the whole concept.

If it weren't for that, there are still only two legitimate uses I can see for these in humans anyway. First would be insanely high security areas. I've heard serious rumors that some at China Lake testing facility are tracked that way and heck, if a place like Area 51 or the other sites around the NTS that don't feature on postcards, then Uncle isn't using it at all. I;ll just assume they are chipped there too. The other use? Very elderly or mentally unstable/unaware.

In both examples, chips would solve the problem in a unique way that nothing else could. I fail to see any other circumstances that meet that and bill paying or mere ID doesn't even come close. They can keep their chips for the very first reason I mentioned, but I wouldn't have been taking one anyway. Nope.

reply to post by ProtectedWitness

Originally posted by ProtectedWitness
I would get one. Seems like a better version of an ID bracelet in case of emergencies. Not really worried about my privacy either.

Got a chuckle from the combination of your moniker and your lack of concern about privacy. Thanks!

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

This is from a couple of years back in the u.k.
www.dailymail.co.uk...
There is numerous examples of RFID being slowly introduce into society for the "good of humankind" of course, but like any drug dealer or pimp will tell ya, only when you have your victim in the position you want them, then they show there true colours, by then it to late.

I`ll stick with chips i can put salt & vinigar on thanks.

...If it weren't for that, there are still only two legitimate uses I can see for these in humans anyway. First would be insanely high security areas. I've heard serious rumors that some at China Lake testing facility are tracked that way and heck, if a place like Area 51 or the other sites around the NTS that don't feature on postcards, then Uncle isn't using it at all. I;ll just assume they are chipped there too...

...In both examples, chips would solve the problem in a unique way that nothing else could. I fail to see any other circumstances that meet that and bill paying or mere ID doesn't even come close.

Actually, a lot of low-security places use card-based RFID, which makes it just about inconvenient enough to deter intruders. But like I stated twice on this thread, RFID systems are easily hacked, and a high-security building wouldn't use RFID for that reason.
There are layered multi-factor access control systems that are many times more secure than something RFID-based.

reply to post by ProtectedWitness

Because I'm not breaking any laws or rules at work, so I'm not afraid of my company monitoring me while I'm on their property and payroll.

Partial transcript of surveillance log Protected Witness #1726545FG784H:
20120712173645 G784H logged at company exit
20120712174138 G784H signal received by transport. Switching to in car detector
20120712174313 G784H turning left on to Route 66
20120712180201 G784H *violation of speed ordinance detected* 52mph in 50 zone
20120712180204 G784H $60 deducted form Bank Of America account 678374674765 ref violation
20120712185446 G784H signal received by domestic surveillance unit. Switching to domestic array.
20120712190201 G784H proximity alert detected from #5766545FG784ZRFID. Identified. Subject's spouse
20120712193233 G784H blood alcohol levels increasing. #13
20120712194506 G784H blood alcohol levels increasing. #41
20120712200156 G784H proximity alert detected from #5766545FG784ZRFID. Identified. Subject's spouse

I could go on and on. Is this really what you would accept?

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by ProtectedWitness

 

Because I'm not breaking any laws or rules at work, so I'm not afraid of my company monitoring me while I'm on their property and payroll.

Partial transcript of surveillance log Protected Witness #1726545FG784H:
20120712173645 G784H logged at company exit
20120712174138 G784H signal received by transport. Switching to in car detector
20120712174313 G784H turning left on to Route 66
20120712180201 G784H *violation of speed ordinance detected* 52mph in 50 zone
20120712180204 G784H $60 deducted form Bank Of America account 678374674765 ref violation
20120712185446 G784H signal received by domestic surveillance unit. Switching to domestic array.
20120712190201 G784H proximity alert detected from #5766545FG784ZRFID. Identified. Subject's spouse
20120712193233 G784H blood alcohol levels increasing. #13
20120712194506 G784H blood alcohol levels increasing. #41
20120712200156 G784H proximity alert detected from #5766545FG784ZRFID. Identified. Subject's spouse

I could go on and on. Is this really what you would accept?

Companies don't have the power to impose fines like you just listed. Don't know what you are getting at. I think your reading comprehension has failed.

reply to post by jNormal


You seem to be pretty happy that this sort of technology is becoming available. Imagine, 7 billion people being tracked worldwide and even if you were a good citizen and somehow broke the law, your chip would simply be turned off. If this crap ever hits our shores, I'm heading out bush because they have buckleys of getting me to accept this tracking system.

You know what gets me is the MANDATORY NATURE of this crap. It is MANDATORY since If in the future companies will force this on their employees. The Federal government will force this on their employees. Everyone will have this forced by their insurance. It is a forced measure. THAT is why I will resist.



If they think it is a good idea, then fine. LET ME DISAGREE. Or is this not a democracy anymore.....Yes I know it's not. That is why I don't trust you Mr. government. You have no truth or honor. A lie is all that you are.

Everyone that works for the Government that is behind this or will be.......you are Judas, sons of perdition. Let your flesh become IT incarnate.


good luck with that fools.

P.s. it is nice to see so many willing. It makes more room for me and my own when you guys are no longer around one day.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
In the sense of the 'Mark of the Beast' concepts and my personal desire to really not get that one wrong....even if I don't consider it likely to be accurate, I'll pass on the whole concept.

If it weren't for that, there are still only two legitimate uses I can see for these in humans anyway. First would be insanely high security areas. I've heard serious rumors that some at China Lake testing facility are tracked that way and heck, if a place like Area 51 or the other sites around the NTS that don't feature on postcards, then Uncle isn't using it at all. I;ll just assume they are chipped there too. The other use? Very elderly or mentally unstable/unaware.

In both examples, chips would solve the problem in a unique way that nothing else could. I fail to see any other circumstances that meet that and bill paying or mere ID doesn't even come close. They can keep their chips for the very first reason I mentioned, but I wouldn't have been taking one anyway. Nope.

I agree. There are a couple of groups of people which this could be very beneficial for. The elderly is a very good point. The other one i was thinking of was pedophiles. If anyone was to be chipped for the protection of society, pedophiles, murderers and rapists would be number one on my list. It would work with other convicted criminals as well but that is where I draw the line when it comes to this topic.

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Mandated no, no under the commerce clause, but now under tax the government could forced to us.

Just remember the big repercussions that the approval of Obamacare have on the citizens in this nation.

As usual those with money or means can pay the tax and live happy ever after, but those that are not like the poor and working class could not afford new taxes of any kind.

So the government and corporate dictatorship knows who they are targeting.

reply to post by DarknStormy

That is an interesting point. On first thought, I'm very leery of anything to do with Criminal Justice after half the tyranny we see now started as "It's for the Children.." or "Public Safety Demands it....". You have a valid point on baby rapers though. They DO stand in a class totally apart from all other criminals and even the criminals themselves follow that code with a near fanaticism.

One question on it though.... How would you do it? If it's a quick inject beneath the skin, how I'd see an elderly patient being tagged with this....an offender can dig that out easily enough. Some of what I've seen on the reality shows inside the prisons are incredible for what determination can allow them to do to themselves. We can go the Snake Plisskin route borrowed from Escape from New York but ..even I'd be tempted to find a way to hack that frequency. (grin) Pop goes the baby raper? Oh...that level of temptation to normal people isn't nice. Maybe along the Brain Stem or some other part of the body where removal by a layman is fairly certain to be fatal?

reply to post by ProtectedWitness

Companies don't have the power to impose fines like you just listed. Don't know what you are getting at. I think your reading comprehension has failed.

I listed just one fine and yes companies DO have the power to apply those types of fine right now, and in the future they will get more and more powers. It is not my comprehension that has failed if you cannot understand what I was saying. It is quite clear. In plain English since you obviously don't have the deductive powers...............

If you allow RFID biochips that is just the precursor to the PTB being able to track every movement, to know what you are ingesting, and to know what you are doing and who with and maybe eventually to know what you are thinking.

If that is what you are prepared to accept then so be it.