In the days of Jared, the legacy of the atlanteans and their origin.

Below are some ancient text mostly biblical which deals with the history before the flood. I chose to use biblical text because they will be better known by the average reader hear however I have studied Indian, Celtic, and Greek text which all spell out the same history....as the old saying goes "there is no smoke without fire"


"The sons of God were the sons of Cain. For when Samael (Lucifer) mounted Eve, he injected filth into her, and she conceived and bare Cain.” and “When the serpent mounted eve, he injected filth into her. Israel who stood at Mount Sinai, their filth ceased; the other nations who did not stand at Mount Sinai, their filth has not ceased”- Patai, Raphael

Eve bore two sons one Cain was the son of one of the elohim Samael, the other was Abel the son of Adam and therefore human.

And when the lord (El Elyon) seen what the serpent (Samael) had done he said “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers” Gen 2 :15 That is enmity between the descendants of Cain and Adam.

The descendants of Cain were titans (giants) as were the elohim and it was a mark all cains descendants bore.
The descendants of Cain were known as the sons of the elohim (Gods) whilst the descendants of Adam were known as the sons of man (Adam).

“And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto Jehovah. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And Jehovah had respect unto Abel and to his offering: but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.” (Gen. 4:3-5)

“And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.” (Gen. 4:8)

When the Lord seen that Cain had done he banished him to live in the land of Nod

“And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. 19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.” (Gen 4: 16-22)

Cains descendants were the first to build city’s, the first to farm, the first to study science, music, metal work. The oldest civilizations on this earth were those built by the descendants of cain who were titans ie giants!
The descendants of cain (the sons of the elohim/gods)were forbidden by their own laws to have anything to do with the descendants of Adam (the adamic race). It was in the days of Jared when a group of the sons of the elohim broke this sacred law and mated with the descendants of adam (man)

“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men (adam) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3” (Gen 6:1-3)

“And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin. And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.”(Enoch 6:3-5)

The resulting hybrids were unlike the sons of the Elohim in that they were animalistic, mentally/spiritually immature. Worse then this the rebellious sons of the elohim taught them knowledge which was forbidden by their laws to reveal. The hybrids began to abuse this knowledge and brought destruction on the Earth. Finally the hybrids turned on the humans and began to slaughter them, spilling their blood upon the Earth. A plan was then made by the sons of the elohim to destroy these hybrids and punish the rebellious sons of the elohim.

“and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.”(Enoch 7:1-6)

Worst of all was Azazel (Satan) who revealed some of the highest secrets possessed by the sons of the elohim “the eternal secrets” it was the misuse of this knowledge that ultimately gave the hybrids their power over others. We all know what power will do in the wrong hands and this is the most ancient account of what the results can be! The knowledge that was revealed was of an alchemical nature i.e. the secret knowledge of the uses of certain metals/crystals and the power that resides and can be unleashed from them!

“6. Thou seest what Azâzêl hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: 7” (Enoch 11: 6-7)

“And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the biters and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy the children of the Watchers” (Enoch 10:9)

“And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjâzâ and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have ‘defiled themselves’ with them in all their uncleanness. (Enoch 10:11>)

The sons of the elohim sent a flood to destroy the hybrids. I believe the flood was localised and not global. It was specifically designed to remove traces of this forbidden knowledge from the hands who had misused it!

Not all were destroyed however, as we know Noah was found to be genetically untainted.

"Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations" (Gen.6:9)

Was Noah of the adamic race or was his father one of the elohim? He was certainly a strange child and his parents did not feel he was completely human!

“1. And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore a son. 2. And his body was white as snow and ruddy as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head †and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful†. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright. 3. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and †conversed with† the Lord of righteousness. 4. And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled, and came to his father Methuselah. 5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious. 6. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be wrought on the earth. 7” (Book of Noah, Chap cvI)

Plato said the first city was called Atlantis. That it was home to the titans but was later destroyed because its inhabitants had become corrupt. This story was passed to Plato via the high priests of Egypt who had preserved the history of mankind. If this is so it would mean the whole of the bible story about the flood is actually an account of the destruction of Atlantis!

“Many sons of God (s) accompanied with woman, and begat sons that became unjust….on account of the confidence that they had in their own strength; for the tradition is that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants (titans)” Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews.

The above statement confirms that these hybrids achieved feats which resembled those of the titans whos homeland we know was Atlantis as told by Plato!

What happened to these people and their knowledge, could it be that those who founded Egypt among other civilisations were survivors from Atlantis? Its curious that king Assur/Asar (Osiris) according to ancient Egyptians the founder of the Egyptian civilisation came from an Island west of Egypt what was destroyed by a flood! Assur/asar is curiously similar to ashur, ahura, ahura mazda and the asura who’s symbol was that of the winged disc.


Above Sumerian winged disc associated with Sumerian gods

Above Assyrian winged disc associated with Ashur

Above Persian winged disc associated with Ahura Masda

Above Egyptian winged disc associated with Assur/Asar (Osiris) and his son horus

I echo your thoughts in respects to the Subject matter.

I also presented a basic "First Part" of on the subject which did dwell with the "Biblical" clues, but ventured into areas outside of Biblical sources. I found it be an "Enlightening" subject, to say the least.

Satan and his Decendants may be an one sided venture, but the theme is there, for those with eyes to see, so to speak.

Ciao

Shane

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Interesting but I would like to point out that Samael (Lucifer) mounted Eve and Azazel (Satan) who revealed some of the highest secrets possessed by the sons of the elohim “the eternal secrets” ie Lucifer and Satan are not the same entity. Satan actually caused the destruction of an entire race due to him revealing knowledge whilst Lucifer created a new race on earth...one is a destroyer and the other is a creator.

In Greek mythology I think Poseidon would be Lucifer ie the farther of Atlas (the titans) whilst Prometheus would be Satan ie the one who gave mankind the fire of the gods (not normal fire) and was punished for doing so.

Originally posted by LUXUS


What happened to these people and their knowledge, could it be that those who founded Egypt among other civilisations were survivors from Atlantis?

Howdy Luxus

If you read what Plato's story the AE were in existence at the same time Atlantis existed, so it wouldn't have been possible for Egypt to be 'founded' by those from 'Atlantis'

Solon marvelled at his words, and earnestly requested the priests to inform him exactly and in order about these former citizens. You are welcome to hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your own sake and for that of your city, and above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and parent and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and afterwards she founded ours, of which the constitution is recorded in our sacred registers to be eight thousand years old. As touching your citizens of nine thousand years ago, I will briefly inform you of their laws and of their most famous action; the exact particulars of the whole we will hereafter go through at our leisure in the sacred registers themselves. If you compare these very laws with ours you will find that many of ours are the counterpart of yours as they were in the olden time.

For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent. Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia. This vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits;

What Plato actually wrote

An aside ..... no world wide flood either

I read some of those stories as well; i found a helpful feature of the bible is the idea of 'history repeating itself'

i don't want to sound as if i'm attacking but what you wrote never repeated itself, along either the line of Cain or Seth; thus, it never happened that way.

what happened was that Adam had sons by two different women, not Eve had sex with two different men. There is only ONE man, not two, but there are three women.

this scenario is repeated throughout the stories...Lamech had two wives, Lot had sons by his two daughters after his wife died at Sodom and Abraham was supposed to have sons of note by Sarah and Hagar.

so...never has Eve had intercourse with two different men in the sense that she bore sons by them; her sin was spiritual intercourse with the Serpent, who is certainly female. when God put enmity between them...he put it between women not men and when Cain rose up against Abel, it was the son born to the serpent attacking the son born to the woman. Adam's sin was that he sexed up the Serpent as well, and it caused way more problems than it was worth.

the confusion is understandable...these stories are purposely misinterpreted so that readers learn to see things from the point of view of the Serpent...that point of view is that God is the Devil and that the Devil is God.

but you can't fool me.

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In the first quote you have the high priest is telling Solon that whatever city solon came from was older then the city the high priest came from in Egypt it says nothing about Atlantis at that point as far as I understand it.

In the second quote it says that Atlantis basically made an unprovoked attack and tried to take over the world but was defeated by the peoples from where solon came from, again it dont really say about the age of Atlantis or how long its people had settled/taken land in other country's. Actually it confirms that the people of Atlantis had settled in other parts of the world.

Just looked it up Solon was an Athenian so apparently according to Plato it was the athenians who finally defeated the peoples of Atlantis.

reply to post by LUXUS


Excellent theory. I'm going to have to think on this a bit, as I am not sure that I agree. Nonetheless thank you for a well put together and thought provoking read. I don't see this enough any more.

reply to post by michaelbrux


It actually says: "Verse 1: And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD". Notice how it did not say I have begotten a son from Adam.

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i do notice this...and the event occurred AFTER the fall at the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

had there been no fall at the tree, i assume that Eve would have first begotten Abel and that Cain would have been born at a later date.

it seems the events at the tree served the purpose of causing the younger son to be born first and the older second, changing the course of events by giving the Serpent, the mother of Cain, a claim to Adam's inheritance.

when it was obvious that Adam would still allow Abel to inherit as if he were the first born son, Cain, at the behest of his mother, the Serpent, was provoked to make war upon his brother and we all know how that turns out.


Just as Abraham had intercourse with Hagar and Sarah got a Son, Ishmael...Adam had intercourse with the Serpent and Eve got a Son, Cain.

See how consistent that is?

Just as Cain made war upon Abel for the Inheritance...Ishmael made war upon Isaac for the Inheritance.

Structure is beautiful.

I just made a very interesting observation, above is a Sumerian clay print showing Ishtar but notice how she is actually wearing the winged disc symbol on her back! It looks almost like a mechanical device. Now once you have made that observation read the quote bellow!

according to the Hebrew tale of “Beit ha-Midrash,” Ishtar, written in Hebrew as “Istahar”, was once a mortal who lived on earth prior to the great flood. During this time, fallen angels would come to earth, lured by the beauty of human women. These fallen angels were called “Watchers.” The leader of these fallen angels was Samyaza, and he lusted after the beautiful woman, Ishtar. He promised that he would reveal to her the “secrets of heaven” if she would have sex with him. Ishtar was not only beautiful, but cunning as well, and when Samayaza made his request, she said instead of the secrets of heaven, she wished to try on his angelic wings. Samyaza told Ishtar that his wings could not come off, but Ishtar, using her feminine wiles, pouted and teased Samayaza until he finally agreed to let her try on the wings. Upon receiving the wings, Ishtar promptly ascended to heaven.

reply to post by michaelbrux


I don't know, the Hebrew scholars and authors of kabbalistic text insist that it was Eve who slept with Samael and later gave birth to Cain...either way its not so important. What is important is to understand that there are two bloodlines one from Cain and the other from Seth.

Originally posted by LUXUS
reply to post by Hanslune


Your claim was

What happened to these people and their knowledge, could it be that those who founded Egypt among other civilisations were survivors from Atlantis?

The answer, from Critias and T is NO they were not founded by ''survivors" from Atlantis

reply to post by LUXUS


people say a lot of things. but only by application of our knowledge of the situation can the truth be known. some call the application of knowledge of the situation War.

but one of the texts you quoted makes it clear that the Bastards and the Reprobates were destroyed; thus, only one survives and through the one the world finds redemption.

for one to call the other a bastard implies that only there is only one Father and only one Son and that the other is an impostor.

reply to post by Hanslune


Solon was an Athenian and the goddess that was their patron was Athena, so according to Plato the goddess Athena was responsible for founding both the Egyptian and Athenian civilization...hmmm interesting. I wonder if Athena has any connection with the goddess Danu in other cultures?

reply to post by LUXUS


Don't know the only problem is that Athens didn't exist in that time frame and the Egyptian culture of the time was neolithic

reply to post by Hanslune


Here is your answer Athens was destroyed by a flood and had to be rebuilt!

The city's patron goddess was Neith, whose cult is attested as early as the 1st Dynasty, ca. 3100- 3050 BCE.[2] The Greeks, such as Herodotus, Plato and Diodorus Siculus, identified her with Athena and hence postulated a primordial link to Athens. Diodorus recounts that Athena built Sais before the deluge that supposedly destroyed Athens and Atlantis. While all Greek cities were destroyed during that cataclysm, the Egyptian cities including Sais survived.[4]

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by michaelbrux
what happened was that Adam had sons by two different women, not Eve had sex with two different men. There is only ONE man, not two, but there are three women.

You offer a valid consideration, and as all here, you are entitled to your view regardless if Others many, or may not agree.

Personally, I agree that Satan and Lucifer are two seperate entities, and despite the views some others may have, I see nothing that is to suggest otherwise.

But I also believe the Letters to the Seven Churches clearly label and define who's offspring are being discussed.

Here's two brief examples covering the Positive aspect of knowing who is the "Seed" donor of that Bloodline.

Revelations 2: 8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

And then

Revelations 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches

I would suggest reading both Chapters, since it is clear who's bloodline is being discussed. There are many more examples within these two Chapters, which give stern messages for those remaining 5 Churches. No where is Lucifer ever noted.

I would also wish to clarify your comment. Three Women?

I would suggest that you may have mistakenly applied this.

There were a lot of women long before the Creation of Adam, and the Mate, created "Like Him" from his rib.

The Sixth Day creation of the Races, were here long before Adam, the Farmer. Many thousands of years at the least.

I trust you will clear this comment up.

Thanks in advance.

Ciao

Shane

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the three women are the mother and two daughters.

in times long past, one went off with Cain while the other two remained in their original places.

either way...at the end they are all reconciled unto one another, the alternate reality vanishes and cain and abel play in the garden as originally planned.

i mentioned earlier that the garden story could just as easily be applied to some remote event in prehistory as it can to understand the events leading up to the destruction of Solomon's Temple and the subsequent destruction of the world in 522 B.C. by Darius the Persian. Genesis is discussing timeless events and is not a journal of history.

if this Adam person existed today, he'd still be the first man and he'd still fight an imposter first man, who is really a woman trapped in a mans body, for supremacy on Earth...it is unavoidable.

each side would consider the other the synagog of satan and the spawn of evil and ultimately the truth would only be determined by war...its the rule.

from my point of view, for example, anyone that believes that a 3rd Temple must be built in Jerusalem, the actual city, as a fulfillment of anything...is definitely the synagog of satan and the membership in that organization know all the demons on an individual basis...to me they are all the devil.

reply to post by LUXUS


I do get what you suggest, and I expect you have seen my reply to another contributor on this subject of Lucifer and Satan.

That leaves the Azazel and Samael Side of the Equation.

I think / believe Azazel is an affixed "LABEL" apposed to an Actual Entity.

Azazel, has a meaning, and it is referring to the Scapegoat, who is Samael/Satan.

Wiki even presents a very detailed narrative on Azazel

I trust you get what I mean in regards to this additional concern.

Ciao

Shane