Dark Knight:Lucifer Rises

Tech is right on the part about millions of people making predictions (Which the OP said this wasn't a prediction which is weird but then comes back to say I told you so) and some at least 1-2 of those actually happening since those are the odds, so the OP might have just gotten lucky.

Other than that this thread is beginning to look dumb.

P.s - anyone else think hidden0 is Techvampire just under another account trying to support his own claims? lol

Originally posted by SpittinTruth
I've read MANY predictions here, on ATS...but you....NAILED IT, OP!

Here's another crazy thing. I'm watching Disney's "Eight Below" with my daughters, 2 days ago...on the 19th...and there was 1 scene, featuring the northern lights. My daughter turned to me and asked, what they were and if they existed. I said, yes and tried to tell her the scientific name for them, and all i could say was: Aurora, Aurora, Aurora (brain fart)....uuuuuuh, they're called the "northern lights".

Then, today...when i was reading Yahoo front page news....this was the headlines: "Aurora massacre victim dies on birthday."

Maybe the age of enlightenment is here???

For those of you that don't understand symbolism....i urge you to diligently study about it. Also, study about subliminal messages. There was a website that actually taught you how to read "their" messages, in magazine ads, and t.v. One very important thing you should understand about subliminal messaging is this: every picture tells a story. Every thing you see in an add, has a story line. You need to learn how to READ the picture; not just look at the picture, in awe. There IS a message! Most of the time, it's a sexual storyline! These photographers KNOW subliminal messaging; that's why they make the cover of Time magazine.

And let's face it already people.....we live in a symbolic world; the writing is EVERYWHERE; from Nike's swoosh, to Mickey D's golden arches. Here's the kicker.......EVERY country uses these symbolic messages. It's how THEY communicate.

You should also study up on 'Sacred Geometry'. Oh, and the music industry......is filled with dirty little secrets. One of their secrets....is to always release a new album, on a Tuesday (the God of War). It's also known that blood sacrifices are made, by a "high priest" before any artists, releases an album. They use these rituals to draw energy from us; so their artist's album sells. No one on T.V. or on the radio, is there by accident or because they have "talent". They were hand-picked; from Gaga to Bieber! These people have "handlers"....that convince them to do things, they "normally" wouldn't do; like Christina Aguilera mentions in her song: "Not Myself Tonight"

Wanna know another little secret? Hollywood.....is the name of a magician's stick!

Oh, and all male actors...have to dress up as women. Check out Will Smith's skit from: "Six Degrees of Separation" Crazy thing is: people worship these luciferians. Everyone, in mainstream entertainment industry, has made a pact with the devil.

I've heard something like this about celebrities before, the likes of busta rhymes, puff daddy, etc. all have to do something really degrading in order to achieve their status, like getting cornholed or something along those lines!!! Mad theory, but hey, stranger things have happened!

Maybe the "instruction" was embedded in the actor's head by the previous plotlines from the movie.

Originally posted by DarkKnight21
The theatre massacre is a tragedy but it is the result of an immature and mentally-unstable kid with a gun who was probably inspired by the villains of the past films. There is no evidence that points to it being a blood sacrifice.

Ouch on the "comic book mentality" jab. I don't know what to say really but sorry I'm not convinced by your piss poor presentation of the burden of proof. I understand some occult symbolism, but I am also very familiar with the Batman mythos and I felt the need to share my knowledge about why your points don't line up and you are grabbing for straws here. At best you have the Lucius Fox numerology (and that's being very generous), but so far that's all I really see going for the OP.

On a lighter note though it's a great film and you should see it if you really are convinced by all this stuff. There could be more mythology to dig for there but if you ask me it's a stretch.

edit on 7/20/2012 by DarkKnight21 because: (no reason given)

dude, the OP said some s*** was going down on the night of this movie release and some s*** went down...and you are going to come in here and act like somehow he totally didn't just call it out because of comic book lore?

You are missing the entire point, so much so that its really sad actually. No one is debating stupid comics and their "mythos" with you...no one is debating the history of the batman series...the bottom line is the OP called it like he saw it and I think the events we are all aware of speak for themselves...He wasn't even talking about the batman comic or lore as much as he was talking about the occult lore using the batman series as a front for their symbolism...

reply to post by 13th Zodiac


Hi 1st off, I read you fine Better than most on here I say you DO have a good theory Morgan Freeman was in 3 Batman Movies I think the Return of Batman was to deflect any ideas from Dark Knight Rising. Have to ask, what is the root # of 6 or 11? The old saying, " Sly as a Fox." It had to come about some other way than in a children's story with the ginger bread man But looking at ALL cartoons & Movies, one can conclude that the Authors, Producers, etc, DO in fact either implement inside information BEFORE something occurs, or AFTER the occurrences, just happen to be right on the money when they produce a true based Movie, the conspiracy within is finally given & accurately so A LOT like " Pelican Brief" With Julia Roberts & Denzel Washington I mean, seriously, how many people cannot see there is factual basis on this movie that there is an Elite group that runs the Governments? The Governing factors behind the Governments? And Heath Ledgers death so soon after Dark Night Rising seems to tie in with the supposed causes behind his death But it is not only in the movies How about Musicians that have remained HUGE & have not died off or died, at ages in their 60's & up? They began as teens or young adults mostly, yet have managed to stay in the industry? But ever notice that members of those particular bands or singers all wear a specific ring that never had a real clear picture of them? They are all the same. Like Football Rings, etc. One young teen on You Tube did Steven Tyler's Fallen Angels song backward, yes, back to that sort of thing Backward, it is almost the same song, only telling you he made a deal with Lucifer, never to do so yourself & that he found a way out of the contract so does not know if he will live or die now. But only a short while later, he is sporting the ring again. They most all wear those rings on their wedding ring finger Off track? I know it seems that way. But it is not sad to say. It is only that people never see what they don't want to. What is right in front of them. Like a parent that sees their child smoke a cigarette or joint yet turns around & says, " MY child? Why MY child would NEVER do such a thing or I'd know! " And worse yet? They believe themselves. One last thing to consider. If one looks on Wikipedia or You Tube Or even Google, there really is/was a City called Gotham in Transylvania near the Carpathian Mountains. It is said it was once a very advanced City until you guessed it...Knight`s Templar's brought the City into Darkness. Which of course was long before any Batman. So how exactly did Batman begin all those years ago? It HAD to be based on something factual in the creator's knowledge. As have been ALL super hero's & villains. Which can be viewed either as ONLY their imaginations or an inside knowledge. And like most of the UFO theories conspiracies, movies such as Independence Day, had a knowledge of inside information as well as a hidden agenda to give the President of that time much better credence. But unfortunately I MUST agree with another of your respondents. YOU KNOW A TRUTH. Thus, your life is now in danger for how do the people involved know if it was really coincidence that you predicted this before it occurred or are one of the co conspirators with a conscience , having inside information & came to an almost hidden site to warn people? Either way, I'm quite certain you should now watch you back, front & sides very closely. " THEY do not like their secrets told so boldly even if you did JUST stumble upon the theory. All I can say now is: Good Luck & I Wish You Many Blessings

Originally posted by TechVampyre
reply to post by ThisIsNotReality

 

Why would i need guts to post online.. Seriously.

This thread is ridiculous. And if anything it proves that people will find a conspiracy, and believe anything these days..

And as for apologize..Excuse me? for what?

Edit to add: Can't wait till school is back in. Get's like this around here every summer, With the garbage threads.. And the kids who will believe Literally anything, and ignore common since.

edit on 21-7-2012 by TechVampyre because: (no reason given)

You're the type of person that when presented proof of something you find hard to believe, you determine others as crazy when it is YOU who is crazy.


Also, the fact that the characters existed has no bearing of relevance to the aurora massacre.

You can take a symbol that already exists and use it in ways it was never originally conceived to be used.

In CONTEXT, the Dark Knight IS new to live action film adaptations. As well as Luscious Fox.

Furthermore, there have been NUMEROUS predictions that Launch day of "The Dark Knight Rises" would coincide with a terror attack.

Not just this one thread. The theory that struck me the most was one of my own, which was then validated when I saw someone come up with the EXACT same theory on ATS.

And this was an analysis of the movies that were scheduled to come out on that date as well as the subject matter of those particular movies. Most of which had their release dates changed only but a month before the schedule.

So... basically what I'm saying is, somewhere around 1,000 people or so called this in advance, and then it happened precisely when they said it would.

If you think that is a "coincidence" I feel sorry for you.

Originally posted by coven83
That is a very interesting theory. I assume then that you believe that this Lucius Trust will be the cause or benefactor of this event on or around the 19th?

What might this event be do you think?

Perhaps they usher in the era of the prophecy of the pope and the final pope rises?

IDK just a wild guess.

Question answered....

Interesting post

Also the event occurred on the 20th in theater 9

20 - 9 = 11

Originally posted by Triesta
reply to post by 13th Zodiac

 

Dude, a guy stood up in COLORADO and shot 12... 12!!! 1+2 people to death in a movie theater that was PLAYING THIS MOVIE!

www.huffingtonpost.com...

edit on 20-7-2012 by Triesta because: (no reason given)

AND JESUS HAD 12 APOSTLES BUT THAT MIGHT BE S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G IT A BIT..........

I think I remember hearing Steve qual talk about something like this a few months ago and about wrath of the titans and that's how it was gonna play out. I dont remember when the interview was but I will look for it, unless someone has already posted it as I have not read the posts as of but just skimming. It's amazing how this post has blown up and how unfortunate so many had to lose their lives. My thoughts and prayers are the victims and their families God bless and stay safe people.

I don't know if anybody mentioned this yet:

Holmes can be a name for someone who lived near where holly trees grew,
According to multiple site's I found one folk name for holly is Bat's Wings When I saw that I was like James Holmes last name has a connection with the words Bat's Wings!?!
www.thegoddesstree.com...
www.bing.com...'s+wings
genealogy.about.com...

Also James means 'he who supplants' If Lucifer is rising, is he supplanting or taking someones place?

for everyone that thinks they are so clever, because the "dark knight" name has been around long before the film. ...1. none of you are. 2. all against this post are haters and very ignorant. 3) WAKE UP !!!!!

let me just silence all the haters against this post...

you believe that because the comics were written in the past they immediately lose all connections to this theory . before I continue I would like to add that i have read plenty of comic books as a kid and was quite the comic book nerd. ..now.. for those who are able to use common sense to string together that there is in fact an "illuminati" conspiracy going on, and from what realist know they have proven on many occasions that they easily control the outcome of our lives, by controlling what we see, read, watch...believe!. that being noted.. we also know the illuminati didn't just get together recently.. its recent that we the people are finally acknowledging the acts of treason & manipulation.

for those with the minds that still can't piece where I'm getting at.
the point is the illuminati has been around a lot longer then comic books. so what's there to say these people had nothing to do with writing the comic books in the past.

reply to post by GoldenVoyager

He was brain-washed into doing this or told to do this I believe, why else would he just give himself up and tell the Police that his apartment was booby-trapped, isn't the purpose of a booby-trap to catch the enemy off-guard? He probably figures since he was arrested that he is in safe hands now and can "spill the beans"...he will mysteriously die soon I predict, as he should.

Here is my take:

First off please be aware that this is a huge spoiler alert for the Dark Knight Rises. I did actually very much enjoy the movie.

Well I believe the key to what the OP was saying is that they make good evil and evil good. So let's start with that premise.

The very first thing that struck me when considering that is the phrase that Bane used, that he is going to "give the city back to the people." They were able to turn the very basic premise of the founding of this country into something evil and it was done by the "bad guy." Of course they did a good job of making it a horrific thing as they portrayed it turning into total anarchy with a warlord in charge. The mercenaries could be seen as "militia" by the way they dressed. They even portrayed and made the punishment of elite and the bankers done by another "bad guy" as something that was a bad thing. One other interesting note, that I caught when they raided the stock exchange was when the trader told Bane, "There's no money here." I think that had a little deeper meaning than what is on the surface. They also made the whole idea of the "Harvey Dent" act as a good thing. That is no trial or jury and no chance for parole, read: The Patriot Act. So they also made the Mayor who supported this act and level of government control and his police force or his army seen another way as a good thing. So in short; Giving the city back to the people was done by the bad guys and the prosecution of the elite oligarchs also done by bad guys was turned into a bad thing. Hence "good is evil." While a Government that had laws in place such as the Harvey Dent Act and it's police force to enforce such Orwellian laws was a good thing and it is also what the "Dark Knight" fought for which I will go into. Hence here, "evil is good."

Let's get more into the symbolism. Let's also take the premise that Lucis Fox is Satan which the OP already went into breaking that down. As a "god" he is the one who provides the Dark Knight with everything he needs to fight with. He gives him more and more power; better suits, tanks, helicopters, etc. Also interesting is the Dark Knight is trained by the League of Shadows. A group dedicated to fighting criminals all over the world (who are also portrayed as an evil group, good is evil). Then ends up fighting against them to protect the establishment. So let's say Raz Algul in the first Batman was the first appearance of Christ (remember good is evil.) Then in the 3rd Batman his daughter can be seen as the second coming of Christ. The Dark Knight who can be viewed as the anti-christ had to crawl out of the darkness, a prison that was a pit underground which they constantly referred to as hell and the darkness. So we can say the Dark Knight came up from hell to fight the second coming of Christ. Except as we already discussed here, the anti-christ is portrayed as the good guy and Christ and the restoration of the land back to the people was portrayed as evil.

Another interesting note in the movie; when Robin tried to escape with the children across the bridge the police officers who again, were on the side of the Orwellian government would not let them escape to safety by blowing up the bridge. They said very clearly, "They were just following orders."

Over all the key here is they did a damn good job of turning good into evil and evil into good which I suppose a Satanist would view the situation.

reply to post by 13th Zodiac

I was visiting a thread on the Black Knight satellite found in polar orbit years ago, and came across this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please read the reply I found, below, and tell me if you think with the mass amount of UFO sightings (hoax or otherwise) and other occurences like the Norweigan spiral, could this vision be legit?

Originally posted by Moserious
Very interesting thread. It make me wonder about a member here named D4rk Kn1ght. I am paraphrasing here but here is what I remember. He said that either a close family friend or relative had confessed on his deathbed about future world problems peaking with the arrival of (a) Dark Knight. He said that he was going to look for signs in the sky and when he saw or heard about a specific occurence in the sky he was bugging out to some remote area to sit it out with a small group of followers. He said that prior to the arrival of the Dark Knight there would be strange visions in the sky and I think this was to be global. The sights in the sky and other events were going to escalate until the Dark Knight arrived.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here was a thread closed down ,though it told something that is obviously what this movie is supposed to suggest NLP, and don't know why such a good hitting thread on the subject was closed.

Don't want this lost though.

Really connected to inciting a french revolution from the 99% type thing.

Its a really creepy movie, and is this a part of the meltdown and crash things plan, to heap lots of karma and people and allow the dark side to take control of the whole thing again in fascism.

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
Batmans "ears" are basically devils horns. He looks like lucifer. Bane is much like lucifer and talks about the "fire rising," and of course morgan freeman's characters name.

A few coincidences for sure.

plus Morgan Freeman is a Freemason.

American Knight would be "Malta", actualy they are all over the world, but many influential ones here, for example 28 out of 35 NFL team owners.

THeres alot I could add on all this, in such detail you wouldn't beleive, but I used to live near some of the "insiders" namely Marvin Marcus of the F.B.I. and Cyrus Vance ex-secretary of state, whom both were fascinated with listening to this old jewish man that lived in the same building myself and Mr. Marcus lived in by the last name of Sheinbein, that was Parkside Plaza in Silver Spring MD, right outside the capitol, i sat with them while they talked to the old man, who had 5 digits on his left arm, and Cyrus used to love to look me in my eyes when the old man spoke, I am descended from a famous native.

reply to post by Existence51


Those are 3 very solid arguments for why anybody disagreeing with the OP are wrong. Congratulations.

Originally posted by coyote66
reply to post by 13th Zodiac

 

First of all, it was a major turn off that you used the term Lucifer, especially in the title of the thread. There are even many hollywood movies that uses this term to brainwash us. Very weird you had to use it in a thread speaking about conspiracy in movies.

Second, why everyting is representing the oposite? Black is white, light is dark, good is evil? Is because there is no such things, all of it are concepts created by the occultists themselves. There is no good and evil, its entirely made up!!

Its about paranoia, Machiavelian control freak ideology and greed, and confusion, fear, halucination and false hope. Since reality is produced by the mind, the mind/consciousness has become the most valuable resource to be controled and manipulated

I suspect, one of the main purpose of such movies are to manipulate their own inner circle. To even more convince their followers, to influence them to fall into a deeper state of their brainwashing. Thus creating a loyal army of their own to conduct whatever task serving their elitist agenda.

EDITED: Your nickname, is it true that the 13th zodiac is the spider?

What a weird thread this is, only 4 pages, yet already earning 100+ flags?

edit on 21-7-2012 by coyote66 because: (no reason given)

Oh coyote there is, Its not what most think it is, but it is real. the truth has been hidden by so many for so long now that people do not know what the truth really is anymore. I will enlighten you briefly. The dark lord is real, he has been given reign over this realm. You live in this realm under that control as it was given. You see this entity is gods son and god won't destroy anyone, he was the first one ever created and given so much but decided he wanted to be a god. Well no one can be a god, there is only one creator and that is it.

So, it is up to all to understand these things. So you have a choice. You can either look around you and understand these things and either go along with them or come to the understanding that there are two forces at work. Everything and the nothing. If you choose the nothing, you will be nothing in the end(not destroyed) , but nothing. If you choose the everything, you will be part of everything. It is hard to explain, but very easy to understand once you grasp it.

ok... wow... so now anyone who believes have any idea what to do?