There is NO Al-Qaeda

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

It's sounding more and more like Osama Bin Laden was killed because of what he knew, and not what he did. Trust the government to declare you a terrorist and make you disappear because they deem the knowledge you possess a matter of "national security" - whether it is or isn't.

Hey, if they can put a retired officer in prison for leaking data on war crimes committed by the U.S., there really isn't any further they can sink. Think about that when you're looking for a safehouse after blowing the lid on what REALLY happened on 9/11.

Oh come on now, really?

Al Jazeera would have picked that up in a HEARTBEAT. "Breaking news - Osama talks, denies all connections to 9/11". You know why you never saw that headline? Because it's not true. Was it real OBL or fake OBL who made all of those cassette tapes and poorly made videos for further recruitment and attempts to justify the attack?

I will believe that a jolly old man in a red suit flies reindeer around the world to 8 billion homes one night a year before I would believe this magical tale of fantasy.

Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by gladtobehere

 

Serously why do you 9/11 truth guys keep posting this video as some kind of proof that Al-Qa’ida does not exist then award the poster of the video with stars just because he/she has the ability to imbed a youtube vid.

Jason Burke the guy who you are all so grossly misquoting is an established author on the history of Al-Qa’ida and in all his writings he makes it very clear that the terrorist network that is (or was) Al-Qa’ida does (or did) exist, go read his books or some of the articles he has written. The BBC journalist who made the BBC documentary “The Power of Nightmares” Peter Taylor has also written extensively about Al-Qa’ida please go read his book “Talking to terrorists” again he makes it very clear that Al-Qa’ida does (again or did) exist.

Please not the reason I am saying “or did” is because there is a very strong argument for saying that Al-Qa’ida no longer exits as an independent group but it is now an ideology. On 9/11 the terrorist network known as Al-Qa’ida did exist.

I find your ignorance sometimes funny, only funnier when you all keep posting this video that can be debunked in seconds if you would only pick up a book.

Actually I find the ignorance somewhat frightening. Your point is well-taken and somehow the existence of a youtube vid and Wiki as a completely credible source is now the basis for arguments put forth and then fiercely debated even when the truth would smack them in the face should open, honest research actually take place.

Take the youtube vid of building 7 (I think that's the one) where it shows #1, detonations going off on different floors, #2, a UFO, and #3, a watermarked comment that the video was a hoax. Yet it is still source as some sort of proof that the building was brought down by controlled detonation. Maybe I shouldn't be worried - maybe people just see engaging in conspiracy theories as a fun hobby. However the danger in that is gullible people get sucked in and history gets distorted. We will NEVER know what exactly took place in Roswell, because SO MANY different lies were put forward as fact and the noise is so loud the truth with never be heard.

reply to post by flashtrum


If we can make someone look like a real-life zombie, I'm pretty sure those videos would be easy to fake as well.

But hey, I'm just entertaining ideas here. Don't ask me how they do what they do; if I knew, I wouldn't be here. I'd be dead, or an indentured servant. But when half of what the government tells us turns out to be "not quite true", you have to start considering alternatives. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Osama was not only completely innocent, but was killed because of something he saw or knew that would have turned our country on its head.

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin

There is an Al-CIAeda.

It was a group of fighters recruited, named, trained and armed by the CIA. They began as a group fighting the Russians and now serve as an excuse to wage endless wars in mineral rich nations.

Its the same group that Western governments backed in Libya and continue to back as needed:

Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse

reply to post by milkyway12

Thank You. Nothing like the facts to sort things out! LOL!
Split Infinity

reply to post by iIuminaIi


That is true, there is no Al.Qaida, It was an intelligence game

It's true, there is no Al-Qaida, it was an intelligent game

reply to post by gladtobehere


Thats not a Al-Qa’ida flag......

Also Al-Qa’ida wasn’t formed until 1988, when the Russians began pulling out of Afghanistan. That fact alone pretty much blows the whole “the CIA trained them to fight the Russians” argument out of the water.

Al Qaeda was originally called the Office of Services (it was called the Al Kifah Refugee Center in America). The organization was founded by Osama bin Laden and Abdullah Azzam. After Azzam was killed, Osama bin Laden changed the name of the organization to Al Qaeda. The CIA did work with the organization to remove the Soviets from Afghanistan. The CIA still had members of the organization under surveillance before they bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. I made a video about Al Qaeda which talks about these things. Here it is, in case you are interested:

Vimeo: vimeo.com...

Youtube: www.youtube.com...

reply to post by iIuminaIi


Here's the thing, there are SO many different splinter groups calling themselves this or that...that a one-name catch-all term was needed for them, from a public standpoint. Al-Qaeda is but one of many, many such organizations, but it's simply used as a catch-all term. So technically, the OP is correct, but really, all these different groups are lumped together as Al Qaeda....