There is NO Al-Qaeda

It's simple , there is no such thing, rather it was invented

"Clinton" admits the U.S government created and funded Al-Qaeda



Case Closed

Al-Qaeda = Facebook


Osama Bin Laden put his money, and his life, into helping the resistance against Russian occupation of Afganistan.

A database was started to keep track of the volunteers and their family contact information incase the volunteer was killed in action.

This database is called al-Qaeda

Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook wrote that the word al-Qaeda should be translated as "the database", and originally referred to the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen militants who were recruited and trained with CIA help to defeat the Russians.

The struggle against terrorism cannot be won by military means www.guardian.co.uk

Congradulations America!

You, your families, friends, and anyone else in the world who has an account with Facebook. You are a member of al-Qaeda. The American version sure. But a database of family contacts all the same.


Clinton: U.S. hacked Yemeni al Qaeda websites

Such noble ideals.
Concern for ones fellows and family.
Staying in touch and sharing the news and events.

All we require now are drones circling our land to really bring it home.

/laughter of the insane*
Mike Grouchy

* I didn't know I was crazy, until I found out what my government thought of me.

Originally posted by mainidh
Every muslims just want's to hug and kiss and hug and kiss and hug and kiss you !

None of them wanna blow you up, cut your head off, dismember your body, drag your corpse through the street.

Is it just me, or are other people here deafened by the sound of enraged, porcine grunting?

Oh, and Robin Cook's death was a complete accident, by the way. He tripped over after his foot got caught in a rabbit burrow, and split his head open on a cairn stone.

Originally posted by Morg234
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

They aren't Al-Qaeda. Muslim extremists exist. Does a muslim extremist organisation called Al-Qaeda exist that isn't a puppetry play thing of "Allied" Intel agencies? No it doesn't.

It does not exist as a viable terrorist organization anymore because we have Killed most of the Leadership. Recruitment is way down. Split Infinity

That you have been lied to does not mean there is no alquaeda. Alquaeda is fighting in Syria right now. Who controls and runs and most importantly funds Alquaeda is the part that is being obfuscated. Saudi Arabia who execute the orders of their owners further West.

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There never was nor will ever be; I've said it dozens of times they don't exist except in a weak sheepish mind. It was a con right from the beginning. Today, the "group" has a new name - the Muslim Brotherhood!

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I get what you're saying, and there is something to be said of this possibly "created" enemy. However, what of the videos released depicting Osama Bin Laden and his top cronies over the last decade? Are they faked? What of attacks and bombings around the world that Al Qaida (AQ) allegedly claimed responsibility for? Has all of that been faked as well? What about some of the beheadings by AQ that were posted on the internet and shown on 60 Minutes? Are we to believe that AQ did not do those things even though they allegedly claimed responsibility?

Personally, I tend to think there *is* an AQ, but perhaps more has been attributed to them than they actually did. Perhaps their messages have been amplified? But still, for me, when they beheaded that journalist with a small knife... that set the stage for everything that is going on now.

All of this being said, the question of 9-11 rises again. Did AQ conduct the 9-11 attacks? THAT is still up for debate as there are so many anomalies with the US government's official story that it has more holes in it that baby swiss cheese (which has all sorts of holes). This is not suggesting that the US government conducted 9-11. This is just suggesting that there are unexplained ANOMALIES and scientific IMPOSSIBILITIES associated with the events of 9-11.

In consideration of everything presented, I still think there is an AQ. However, perhaps some of their influence and messages have been amplified and possibly distorted. Still, they beheaded a journalist. They bombed embassies. They are very real.

Originally posted by iIuminaIi
It's simple , there is no such thing, rather it was invented

"Clinton" admits the U.S government created and funded Al-Qaeda

Case Closed

edit on 7-7-2012 by iIuminaIi because: (no reason given)

This has been taken out of context. Yes, the US equipped and funded MUJAHADIN to fight the Soviets in the 80s. Yes, the US left these people alone afterwards, as it should have (what are you supposed to do, kill them for no reason other than they are well trained and armed?). Okay, some of these people formed al-Qaida (AQ) and became terrorists 20 years later.

The point is that the US did not "create AQ." They funded freedom fighters to take on the Soviets and drive them out of their country. The fact that these people LATER decided to create a terrorist organization is **apart** from the support the US gave them in the 80s. A comparison: the US trains a platoon of Marines to fight in a war. Those marines leave active duty and return home to form a white supremacist militia who starts killing ethnic minorites. ---The US did NOT create that white supremacist militia. Former members of the US marines created that white supremacist militia. --Please realize that this is just a hypothetical example used to illustrate an example. I have the highest respect for marines and the highest disregard for white supremacists and any other racists.

The point is that the US did not create AQ. They equipped and trained people who fought the Soviets in the Cold War who later chose to become something other than what they had been at the time of US support.

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Are you training hard to be such an ignorant fool, or did that come as a gift ?

Let me explain it to you in small words:

"Al Quaeda" or alternatively known as "Al Cia-eda" is the internal CIA name for what was formerly known as "Mujahadeen" which in turn was a CIA funded and stinger missile armed group of fundamentalist extermists, mostly recruited from Pakistan and SAudi Arabia. They were hired in the thousands to kick the Russians butt out of Afghanistan. Worked like a charm. After the Russians were gone no-one really cared for them anymoreand they did their own thing.

Nowadays, when you hear about islamic extremists blowing stuff up, it's most likely a CIA controlled group of brainless idiots, again trained and equipped by the US in order to control resources, areas, people, etc and deny foreign companies the access to these countries.

It's actually spelled Al-CIA-da... totally fictional black ops to perpetrate terror on the American citizens so that those in power may be given free reign to invade other countries and steal their resources.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by HangTheTraitors

 

Religion is the source of all morals.

Are you suggesting humans have no innate sence of right and wrong? Are you a psychopath?

Gorgeous syrian girl explains Why Al Qaeda is Al CIAda!

Originally posted by maes9

well in Iran gay people are not executed. execution is for:
1-those that rape others and are convicted in a court and especially when the victim does not forgive him.
2-those that are spreading pornography in the public.

Sounds like you have swallowed what the Iranian Government have clamed hook line and sinker;

Homosexuality is a crime punishable by imprisonment, corporal punishment, or in some cases of sodomy, even execution of the accused is legal under the laws of this country's theocratic Islamic government.[1] Gay men have faced stricter enforcement actions under the law than lesbians.

Ofcourse, however, Iran assures that only sodomising and eeevil rapist homosexuals are excecuted, nobody else;

2] Iran insists that it does not execute people for homosexuality, and those executed had either committed rape, murder, or drug trafficking.[3]

Well, that solves it all, then.

But wait!

On January 23, 2008, Hamzeh Chavi, 18, and Loghman Hamzehpour, 19, were arrested in Sardasht, in Iranian Azerbaijan for homosexuality. An on-line petition for their release began to circulate around the internet.[28] They apparently confessed to the authorities that they were in a relationship and in love, prompting a court to charge them with Moharebeh ("waging war against God") and Lavat (sodomy). There were two reported crackdowns in Esfahān (also spelled "Isfahan"), Iran's third-largest city. On May 10, 2007, Esfahān police arrested 87 people at a birthday party, including 80 suspected gay men, beating and detaining them through the weekend.[29] All but 17 of the men were released; those who remained in custody were believed to have been wearing women's clothing.[30] Photos of the beaten men were released by the Toronto-based Iranian Railroad for Queer Refugees.[31] According to Human Rights Watch, in February 2008 police in Esfhan raided a party in a private home and arrested 30 men, who were held indefinitely without a lawyer on suspicion of homosexuality.[32]

en.wikipedia.org...

Arrest in suspicion of Homosexuality? B-B-But you SAID.

not even all of them but the main activist. especially it depends on the greatness of crime and when it is accompanied with other crimes like public harrassment.

Apparently Homosexuality alone is enough of a "greatness" and a crime to warant arrest.

so no one will execute a person which is doing a crime in his or her private without any harrassment.

No?

in February 2008 police in Esfhan raided a party in a private home and arrested 30 men, who were held indefinitely without a lawyer on suspicion of homosexuality[32]

It is ofcourse easy to make a nice-sounding official claim saying that no-one is going to hurt anyone if the "Anyone" in question are not even admitted as existing in the first place;;

In a speech at Columbia University in New York in 2007, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like you do in your country … In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who has told you that we have!"

Although, it very much do and not only that;

Yet homosexuality is punishable by death, according to fatwas issued by almost all Iranian clerics. Until recently, lavat (sodomy for men) was a capital offence for all individuals involved in consensual sexual intercourse. But under amendments to the penal code, the person who played an "active role" will be flogged 100 times if the sex was consensual and he was not married, while the one who played a "passive role" can still be put to death regardless of his marriage status. Punishment for mosahegheh (lesbianism) is 100 lashes for all individuals involved but it can lead to the death penalty if the act is repeated four times.

Well, that did not went well together with your earlier statement that only rapists are crudely punsished, now did it?

execution is not a simple law. life is respectful.

While it is a nice and rosy little statement, it unfortunately goes very badly together with teachings like the following;

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful. Sura 9:5

I love that end-sentence; "God is forgiving and merciful", for if He is truly forgiving, loving and merciful, then why bother persecuting people for differing belief systems in the first place?
Ah well, that's Religion for ya.


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and about simple women rights for example driving or voting please say that it is in Saudy Arabia (I doubt if there is any voting there!) Alley of USA and it is completely contrary to Islam.

Isam:

Islam in Saudi Arabia is the sole official religion of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, whose territory was the birthplace of the Muslim religion. Muhammad , the messenger of the Islamic faith was born in the city of Mecca and raised in the Hejaz region, to become later on the prophet of Islam. He unified the diverse tribes of the Arabian peninsula. Although the Arabian peninsula was later fragmented, the cities of Mecca and Medina remained the center of the religion, attracting millions of pilgrims, clerics and students from across the Muslim world. Political control of the two cities gave considerable power and legitimacy to any kingdom or empire in the global Muslim community.
While what is now Saudi Arabia was the birthplace of Islam, it was also home to various sects and strands of the religion until the rise of Salafism, also known as Wahabbism, a fiercely puritanical strain of Islam that gained patronage of the primary rulers of the Arabian peninsula.

and the verses of Quran about to be hard against the unbelievers. I do not why western people think that they are unbelievers in Islam! maybe because they themselves consider Muslims unbelievers!
Quran:"""Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve."""

Which conclusively proves that Islam is a hypochrite Religion. Although you shouldn't be too and sad upset about that, as the teachings in the Bible is just as Hypocritical, si Islam is hardy unique.

of course human has a right to defend itself and to help others even when he has to kill his enemies in a war.

I think you meant to say;

of course Religion has a right to defend itself and to help others even when it has to kill his enemies in a war.

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To be clear I'm no terrorist.

When lives are destroyed by sheer greed and lack of moral what remain?
Human beings starved to death, families killed , no foreseen future what is left?
Some say live is hard others say it is the survival of the better equipped.
If others do not respect others right to a decent existence what to ?

Is my Moral and ethics are matters of interest and only applied when there is some sort of gain what to do?

Who are we to say our moral is better than their moral ?

When evil minds take advantage of the poor and hopeless and it happens right in front of us ,what does mankind think it will happen?

It is claimed it's a choice. To have a choice you must have options and there are any.

To make yourself heard you must have anyone ready to listen. The ones who can listen are blind.
Can we really blame someone who is taken to despair ? A despair so deep that leads to the use of its own body their only possession to make a statement ?

It is easy to dismiss as lunacy, brainwash and pure evil .

As long the mankind accepts to be ruled under the materialism God no war on terror or any war will end massacres.

It is time to start a new war and it is a different war not against terror organizations but between ourselfs the silent ones who only respond whit a roar when our interests are in stake.

Terrorism as several ways to act and silence and denial are one of them.

And we are guilty of Silence.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded by Abdul-Aziz bin Saud (known for most of his career as Ibn Saud) in 1932, although the conquests which eventually led to the creation of the Kingdom began in 1902 when he captured Riyadh, the ancestral home of his family, the House of Saud, referred to in Arabic as the Al Saud. The Saudi Arabian government, which has been an absolute monarchy since its inception, refers to its system of government as being Islamic, though this is contested by many due to its strong basis in Salafism, a minority school of thought in Islam. The kingdom is sometimes called "The Land of the Two Holy Mosques" in reference to Al-Masjid al-Haram (in Mecca), and Al-Masjid al-Nabawi (in Medina), the two holiest places in Islam.

en.wikipedia.org...

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LOL!!! High Five!!

2nd.

Al Qaeda was a U.S. creation, specifically a product of inverted right wing psuedo logic. If 'al Qaeda' did not exist, never mind --the shills would invent it and cite it to justify wars abroad, crackdowns on freedom at home! They would bestow upon it a virtual existence via press releases, propaganda and outright lies --deliberate attempts to mislead the American people!

A man who does not know the truth is just an idiot but a man who knows the truth and calls it a lie is a crook!

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Al-Qaeda a term originally coined by the BBC....

Originally posted by AnonymousCIA

Al Qaeda was a U.S. creation, specifically a product of inverted right wing psuedo logic. If 'al Qaeda' did not exist, never mind --the shills would invent it and cite it to justify wars abroad, crackdowns on freedom at home! They would bestow upon it a virtual existence via press releases, propaganda and outright lies --deliberate attempts to mislead the American people!

A man who does not know the truth is just an idiot but a man who knows the truth and calls it a lie is a crook!

Spot on