Revelation - Chapter 13

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

And you really expect him to show up and save the entire world with his mere presence, even though his story happened over a thousand years ago?

edit on 11-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)

Actually yes, because he promised he would, 2000 years ago and he will come soon because we're well into the 6th day of Man's labors and the final head of the Beast is rising up from his mortal wound in 1924.

So what do you believe the 3rd "woe" is? Just wondering

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

Actually yes, because he promised he would, 2000 years ago and he will come soon because we're well into the 6th day of Man's labors and the final head of the Beast is rising up from his mortal wound in 1924.

What, are you quoting your own cult book of scripture?
Can you back any of that up with the real Bible?

reply to post by jmdewey60


The bible prophecy of the later days says Jesus will be coming soon . From the time that Israel became a nation the clock has been ticking. This war that is looming in the Middle East will soon set the stage for the return of Christ as the war of Ezekiel 38 . The Antichrist will have his time to have the Temple built for his deed called the Abomination of Desolation . Then per Ezekiel 39 Jesus will return to save Israel . This is also backed up by Matthew 24 .
Thats coming from my cult called Christianity and the KJV.

reply to post by SimonPeter

Thats coming from my cult called Christianity and the KJV.

You are trying to redefine Christianity as your cult, which it is not.
You may have deluded yourself into believing you are just following what every Christian believes, but you are not.
You actually are part of a cult which by definition is not part of the Christian mainstream.
Most Christians do not think Ezekiel 38 and 39 is a prophecy of an end-time war in the Middle East that has to happen for Jesus' return, or for any other reason.
It is an allegorical bit of poetry to explain why it is that Judea was never restored to a kingdom after the return from exile of the Judean elite class, like they had hoped. It says that The Lord allowed calamities to befall it in order to eventually add to the glory of The Lord once the situation is reversed.
If you want to interpret it literally, then you have to imagine a situation where the people do not have to go out to gather firewood for two years because they can burn the spears of their enemies, who by the way arrived on horseback.

reply to post by SimonPeter

From the time that Israel became a nation the clock has been ticking.

Listening (figuratively speaking) to one of of your fellow cult members yesterday, Israel has always been a "nation" so that wrecks this little theory of yours.
Going by your definition of a "nation", then it is based on recognition by Harry Truman who was prodded into it by a Zionist vice-president. So there was no establishment by The Lord in a column of fire and smoke with lightning and a thunderous voice from heaven proclaiming Himself as God.
What you have is basically an opportunist theory taking advantage of historical events and projecting over it a lot of speculation and some redefining of biblical terms, but nothing that is actually taught in the Bible.

reply to post by SimonPeter

The Antichrist will have his time to have the Temple built for his deed called the Abomination of Desolation . Then per Ezekiel 39 Jesus will return to save Israel . This is also backed up by Matthew 24 .

There is no actual teaching in the Bible of a person identified as the "Antichrist".
The Abomination of Desolation is not connected in the Bible with some sort of supernatural salvation by someone appearing in the sky or something, but with the historical destruction of Jerusalem predicted by Jesus in Matthew 24, which is the fulfillment of the woes given by him as the judgment against them, and the sign of his coming into power as the king who rules over the earth.

reply to post by jmdewey60

Well I guess I'm just a glutton for punishment but ; God gave you the wisdom to read and comprehend his writings . Matthew 24 . The A of D is told about there . Jesus laid out the time of his coming within Matthew 24 by the signs . Now what we call the Antichrist is named as the False Prophet or Son of Perdition or Lawless One . 1st John chapter 1 verse 18 tells you what an antichrist is , there are many .

reply to post by caladonea
You can look up trubiblecode or any other website explaining which countries the beast of revelations represents and a breakdown of the antichrist etc. if you google it, i found many websites.

friends you are on to something...


there are 7 levels of understanding for each verse in Scripture.


I know you will not believe me because nobody has but one day there will be one person who this will resonate with and when it does there will be great applause in the ShamaYAim.

The Scriptures as we know them are mostly right on but they have been twisted so badly so that any thinking man in his heart realizes that there is something horribly missing and wrong about our Father that it mentions. A few key elements have been changed to reflect a shatanic god instead of a "Loving" God. If your heart is of love you will understand this statement.

You have been given a key... seek the door and unlock it!

Blessings,...

Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
friends you are on to something...


there are 7 levels of understanding for each verse in Scripture.


I know you will not believe me because nobody has but one day there will be one person who this will resonate with and when it does there will be great applause in the ShamaYAim.

The Scriptures as we know them are mostly right on but they have been twisted so badly so that any thinking man in his heart realizes that there is something horribly missing and wrong about our Father that it mentions. A few key elements have been changed to reflect a shatanic god instead of a "Loving" God. If your heart is of love you will understand this statement.

You have been given a key... seek the door and unlock it!

Blessings,...

nevermind.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Don't waste your time Lonewolf .

reply to post by Sublimecraft


sublimecraft,


TROPHY

In the times of Ancient Greeece and Rome it was regarded as a structure consisting of the captured ARMS, FLAGS or other spoils of a DEFEAT ENEMY, hung on a tree, or pillar, of the field of balltle or elsewhere as a memorial of VICTORY- THIS PRACTICE IS STILL BEING PRACTICED TODAY-

Reason the symbols in the Revelation, helraldry, FLAGS and numbers represent the VICTORY over JESUS.


666= Revelation 13.2 " the beast looked like leopard, with feet like a bears feet
and a mouth like a lions mouth"
In Heraldry the beast is used as a symbol of victory over the beast, who is JESUS.
Flag of England and many other Countries use the symbol of the beast,
while everyone thinks it's Lion.
Also in Heraldry the symbol of a castle with 3 towers also means 666.


- 13 is JESUS, Chapter 13 in the Revelation was written against Jesus. FRIDAY 13TH is JESUS
12 APOSTLES, THE 13TH WAS JESUS

- 666 = XXX = +++ = FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT =HOLY TRINITY = JESUS
- 666 = Friday the 6th day of the week, THE DAY JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED
666 = 6 FOOT UNDER
666 = There are 6 weeks of lent prior to EASTER
666 = 6th letter of the aplhabet is F = FRIDAY = Friday 13th = JESUS
666 = Revelations ,The Father- 6th Seal
Son - 6th Trumpet
Holy spirit- 6th Bowl
666= Revelation 13.5 "The beast was allowed to make proud claims which were insulting to God
and it was permitted to have authority for Forty two months" = 42 months = 3.5 years,
Jesus started to preach at the age of 30 and was crucified at the age of 33 and half years
= 3.5 years = 42 months

666= The second book of Esdras , the Fifth Vision of the EAGLE-
Most scholars date the the Eagle Vision during 69- 96 AD.
" the second night Ihad a dream. I saw an eagle coming up out of the sea.
It had twelve wings and three heads. All three heads was a sleep,
even the middle one, which was larger then the other two"
= EAGLE = JESUS AS SATAN