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The Coming Trials: What Happens Next?

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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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The whole idea of urantia as I want to call this subject I suppose can look misleading.

Aronolac: It is misleading in that it has nothing to do with the process at work here. No text book can find the words needed to address you after it is printed. It is the text book to use but that said, it has no application here.

Im very new to this idea of 11 11.
Thank you for the sincerity in your reply.

Aronolac: You are welcome.

I will do my best to not commit everyone of your nature to the GFOL.

In a nutshell Ive been beat up chewed up and spit up, by family friends and this so-called innocent government i live with daily.

Aronolac: You speak of the public systems and of the private bad manners. Love is missing in all of them.

If you just get transmissions from angels/aliens. can you try to find out who the man in the west and women in the east is.Or from where they come? Ive been searching for this answer a long time. Maybe I know, but I've been beat up to doubt in existence.

Aronolac: I must go to my angelic commander and ask her to reply directly to you because my human mind has no idea what you refer to.

TRANSMISSION:

"The Completion Seraphim Manotia at your service. We neither know or hold the answer to your questions here since what you refer to could be specific to the founding of the Persian Empire or the end of salvation of Lucifer's demand to be heard beyond his day. I am Manotia, Seraphic Commander of the 31st Divisional Headquarters on the planet Urantia."

END

Aronolac: We seem to be on the same page regarding the woman in the east and the man in the west inquiry. Nothing resonates as you ask it.

If your know how of numbers from our digital clock age. seeing your time of birth repeated. whats this significance to the person.

Aronolac: Usually nothing. It is a coincidence. In your case however, it refers to your origin in time. That is significant since few understand that the eternal portion of any human is a factor that is calculated by the First Source and Center, the Universal Father, as a moment of his self-expression for individual development. You are being reminded you have work to do and that it directly benefits mankind by being of service through the portal you entered life. That means you have really surrendered to God already, and he has blessed you with the work of the ages. You will be contacted. I leave it at that for now.


Yes you are correct when you say good luck to my quest because my trials and tribulations are difficult in these days. If your more sincere than GFOL. then maybe thats why I appreciate writing this to you. Ive been a clock reader since 9/11 happened and have been open to all interpretations of religion.

I even read your post of lucifer and i have to tell you in his existence hes still alive and well. Whether hes in the halls of amenti or above this planet.

Aronolac: You know it is best not for me to get into the subject of Lucifer even though the angel Manotia has done so in her short transmission to you above in this post to you. I will only say that you yourself will never be troubled by the evil ones.


ps Ive been a scripter since 2008. though i dont find it reasonable to find answers this way.
ps. i just write as i go and forget to look back.

Aronolac: That is fine because you do not need the practice or the method. You have been trained and rehearsed in the mind to stand tall with God when he asks you to begin the service to man as soon as we begin our new dispensation.

Thank you
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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Dear Aronolac -

Thank you for your response. I read the rest of the replies and I also thank you for devoting time to us, our questions and concerns.

I will let my daughter know about the Spiritual Psychology. To answer you - she desires to pursue an avenue in adolescent psy as she has gone thru much personally and wishes to help others who are going thru life's problems and situations. I have always encouraged her - she is one awesome young lady.

My other daughter (11-1-2000) is an empath and has had some struggles emotionally, but seems to be doing better. Please, is there anything else I can do to guide her? The name(s) of her guide/guardian(s)? Mine?

We are talking of a trip to Lily Dale (for the youngest's benefit, as she wishes to go), but I am afraid to speak to them about/for myself (psychics), but I trust you. Odd perhaps, but true. Does Elizabeth Rose mean something that I should question more? Silly, I suppose, but I do wonder.

Thank you again.

Sincerely - Amy



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Hello Amy,

You write:

I will let my daughter know about the Spiritual Psychology. To answer you - she desires to pursue an avenue in adolescent psy as she has gone thru much personally and wishes to help others who are going thru life's problems and situations. I have always encouraged her - she is one awesome young lady.

Aronolac: Just one more thing concerning career for the daughter you mention above. Do not be surprised that the expected career may never materialize. Think about this and maybe forewarn her that the short term plans for work will likely be thrown askew. All institutions are going to have to be revived and that includes the medial profession and the teaching profession and the corporations they work through. I can not tell you specifics, but if there is no place to go to do adolescent psy work there is no immediate need for the professional who staffs these outlets. Things will settle down in a decade or so, but that is time enough for many people to find work in other areas they may find even more fulfilling than what they intended to do.

My other daughter (11-1-2000) is an empath and has had some struggles emotionally, but seems to be doing better. Please, is there anything else I can do to guide her? The name(s) of her guide/guardian(s)? Mine?

Aronolac: She is so young there is little on her record yet that would indicate her choices and preferences for particular paths. There is some indication she can be held accountable to things having to do with the real world's need for empathy-type work such as counseling. What we are going to see will be pretty rough on young people, but there then is plenty of room to learn service at an early age.


We are talking of a trip to Lily Dale (for the youngest's benefit, as she wishes to go), but I am afraid to speak to them about/for myself (psychics), but I trust you. Odd perhaps, but true. Does Elizabeth Rose mean something that I should question more? Silly, I suppose, but I do wonder.

Aronolac: Elizabeth Rose sure rings a bell, but I can not place why. I am afraid I can not give any thing about it at this time.

Thanks
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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by BlueMule
Aronolac, I would also greatly appreciate anything you can tell me about my spiritual friends, guides, lovers, teachers, foes, parents, and siblings.


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Aronolac, I know it isn't really up to you when you resond to whomever, but just in case my tiny post escaped your attention I thought I would point it out. Anything you can tell me is appreciated. If you need me to provide more details or specifics, feel free to ask.
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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 01:54 PM
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Interesting read.....
I'm intrigued by the reactions you are getting from the people whose questions you have answered. I've experienced a lot of the prompts you mentioned and have also tried (half heartedly if i'm honest) to pose questions to the 'quiet'.
Very often when in a waking up state, I can spend a fair amount of time listening to someone talking but can only ever make out the occassional word. When I make a concious effort to listen to whats being said, it stops.
Would you know if this voice is in response to my questions and if so, how do I tune in without losing the connection?
Thanks in advance



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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BlueMule,

I have seen your post, but your post, but you provide so little to follow to open it up for you. Holding your cards so close to your chest makes it virtually impossible for me to lift out the thread that takes us right to your inner being and the thought processor behind it. You appear to love the universe and the stars. They bring you solace and the wisdom of age beyond your years by being constant and available every night you contemplate their reason for being.

You have guides like everyone else who has not denied the existence of spirit and the great Creator of all. They are not named to you since to name them is to tell you their purpose, and that is something I must obey too. So it is not given yet. The future deals with your service to others for that is always the epitome of life to be of use that helps other people understand themselves and even the purpose they wish to achieve before they go on to the mansion worlds for further training.

It seems you have something to do with the star child you keep thinking about. This is a dream of yours where you see the end before it begins, and when this happens, you are being helped to see the end in order to compensate for the changes you must make to have it work out. It takes two to tango, and in this case, that two is comprised of your interest in the universe and God, and the Creator himself who sees you as a dreamer forced to be practical to obtain the better part of the dreams you hold for yourself and the achievement of service to others through practical knowledge,

Practice becoming more open to yourself. Admit want you want and accept it as possible. That will lead you to being open to those who can help you achieve your desires by sharing that quality in you that can takes good ideas of others and turn them into gold or into an invention that makes life easier for many.

The philosopher in you comes out to break Gordian knots of others and how you do this is through redemption of intellect in the power of the spiritual presence of your Indwelling fragment of the Father. He too is a philosopher of great worth and the attunement you gain only accents this feature of your personality.

Your journey through this life is possible because it is made possible by the help of the Magisterial Son soon to appear on our planetary doorstep. He has sponsored you since you were a little one. He has seen to millions of people too for he wants them to surround him with help he so desperately needs to bring our sphere back from the abyss of disaster. You will likely run into his advance team of incarnated Melchizedeks late this year or sometime in 2013. All depends on the state of the world how soon the advance staff can make contact with the human elements they wish to deliver a message to.

Thank you



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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You write:
Very often when in a waking up state, I can spend a fair amount of time listening to someone talking but can only ever make out the occassional word. When I make a concious effort to listen to whats being said, it stops.
Would you know if this voice is in response to my questions and if so, how do I tune in without losing the connection?

Aronolac: It must be true that when you are hearing conversations in which you can not quite make out the words while you achieve rest and/or silence, that you have altered your conscious state. That is, you have deflected into the alpha state. It is awake but not focused objectively. Two things are likely happening:

1) You hear the conversation in the etheric. That is a belt of energies surrounding this globe from the ground up to about 1 mile high. It contains the worship and the declination of those who have not gone over yet. They are not ghosts, but honest to goodness people just like you and me who have not yet decided how to access the light that would open the door to the mansion worlds for ascension. They remain attached to the earth, their homes, their belongings, and their memories. They converse all the time. If one is able to deflect normal consciousness into the frequencies of their existence that are several thousand time higher than our own, then you will hear partial conversations.

Let me tell you a story about what happened when I was on the telephone talking to another person who was attempting to converse with the etheric zone. It is quite doable, but you need training to do it if you wish to cause no harm to those who wait there for resurrection.

We were discussing the possibility of getting in there without causing a ruckus or upset anyone. I said to the other end, why is it not possible to just say hello through a phone line because all they need do is find the line and splice open the energy flowing in the line to speak with us. With that, my phone line went dead, and like in some bad connections a voice came in with a lot of echo, asked who I was in Spanish. I told the voice I do not speak Spanish and did he mind speaking in English. He said, Who are you? Can you help me? (in Spanish).

He was from Venezuela or Columbia I could not tell exactly which it was. He had passed on and was listening for a voice to tell him what he had to do to see his wife again. He missed her badly and wanted to find her so they could go together to the place he was promised he could rest. I did not know I was speaking to the etheric zone and I was speechless and to be frank, I fumbled the ball. The phone went dead and I hung up. Within seconds the phone range again and it was the friend who got caught off.

He was all excited. He heard the conversation I thought was only between me and the one asking for help. He said, I also caught the fact someone else was listening with me, and that person was the Indwelling of the person speaking with me. My friend said he just did not know what to do with such an unprecedented situation.

The point to be made I think is that the human mind can hear anything once it can be tuned to the area of sound coming its way. The trick is to find a way to fine tune it so you can hear the audible portions of the contact. Such contacts are multidimensional in that it involves you and the sound source and the spiritual wherewithal operating to make it possible. You are hearing that something without honing it, and that does take some training to bring it in.

The best way to get at these conversations if that is what your really want is to first attune to your own indwelling who will adjust the frequencies for you. The tricky part is getting the attunement in a way that brings the Adjuster out into your conscious mind, and that can take centuries or it can take months depending on how you go about it. I hear my center 24/7, but that took a lot of time and training to obtain. There is nothing like sitting down every day for several minutes to still the mind and ask for this attunement to the God center in yourself. Dramatic results can happen, but more likely it may take you several months to hear the difference and maybe even overhear these conversations you are curious about.

Thank you
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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Aronolac
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BlueMule,

I have seen your post, but your post, but you provide so little to follow to open it up for you. Holding your cards so close to your chest makes it virtually impossible for me to lift out the thread that takes us right to your inner being and the thought processor behind it.


I do hold them close...I have trust issues and I don't like the reactions I usually get from people when they see the cards I'm holding. They usually think I'm crazy or egotistical or both.


It seems you have something to do with the star child you keep thinking about.


Back on the solstice lunar eclipse of December 2010 I was taken up and became a "star child" or "Atman" or something...this photo resonates deeply with me.



I was in the infinite dark...the 'Holy Dark', or whatever...fully lucid and in a body of pure thought. There were many Blue Pearls, and they were in concentric circles. They flashed in patterns that communicated and brought me to a level of lucidity. I could move.

There was something else there, something that I can't really describe but it merged with me and came back with me. I think it was that which some call the Christ. I had much 'kundalini energy' and many mystical experiences for many days after that before becoming grounded.

Of course I don't share this with many people because they tend to...well, you can imagine how people might take it. No one understands.

But hey we are all crazy here at ATS, aren't we?


Anyway, any light you can shed is appreciated.


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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Hhmn, thats given me something to think about,
thanks for responding.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Dear Aronolac -

Oh, my golly! Thank you so much for your answers/guidance! I re-read your answer about my oldest and (ding) I recognized your reference to medial psy...She has taken and will be taking film classes as this interests her too.

Wow. This is just....wow. Ok. I am awed to say the least. The name Elizabeth Rose comes to me at the oddest moments so I can't really explain except that I feel she is/was real.

Anyhow, I just wanted you to know. Thank you again for everything.

Sincerely - Amy



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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BlueMule,

No, you are not crazy, just privileged.

I recognize the source of the concentric circles in pearl and blue as they are the signature and symbol of the Paradise Trinity. Our sovereign Lord Michael uses them on his banner of white which is emblazoned with the three blue circles of the Father, Son and Spirit of Infinity. That flag flies atop all worlds on the building the Prince inhabits to rule a world at peace and prosperity. Our world shall have that building too one day soon, and on another day just a little later, the Christ will raise that banner high over the city of God. His return is imminent and the Magisterial Son precedes him shortly.

The embrace given you is also for all who come before Him and receive his acceptance of each as a son of God. That is the sense of feeling you get when he merges with you as a brother and a Father. It is a bear hug or love touch and it is his peace to you that passes all understanding, even if it is felt only for one sweet moment.

I think I need say little more. Let it sink in and peace be with you.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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You need not. I'll let it sink in, and peace be with you too!



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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I thought id just pop in here and say hello to the OP, and thank him for a most interesting thread. Im greatly suprised by the lack of opposition you ve had, maybe youve got a guardian angel
. I probably shouldnt have said that its asking for trouble.
Anyway, even though this subject greatly interests me, and i would LOVE to ask questions about myself, i think you deserve a break. I just wanted to say that you said something to a poster way back in the thread, that i found deeply helpful in coping with life in general and my reason for being here. I read thousands of words over the years here on ATS, and these were way up there near the top.
So thankyou .



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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I think the readers of this thread will find this amazing video goes right along with the message you are giving.
Important information to get out to the masses!



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Thank you Spouse-Of-The-Healing-One

You know you are so nice it felt like a prayer of benediction over the food I am serving!

May my band aids stick all over your slings and arrows that find you in this life.

Aronolac



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by sled735
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I think the readers of this thread will find this amazing video goes right along with the message you are giving.
Important information to get out to the masses!


Oops! I didn't mean to post this in a reply to BlueMule, but to the OP. Sorry about that.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Aronolac
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Thank you Spouse-Of-The-Healing-One

You know you are so nice it felt like a prayer of benediction over the food I am serving!

May my band aids stick all over your slings and arrows that find you in this life.

Aronolac


You little charmer, you.


My intuition senses that you are a good person. I cant buy yet what your saying, because ive seen many come and go of a similar ilk (not as pleasant as you though). But what you wrote to another poster a while back really filled me with a sense of togetherness. I dont like the world anymore, im sorry but i have lost all hope in the people who live in it. The only souls i love are my family, children and pets, and sometimes i feel a sense of "what am i doing here". But you said to that poster who expressed the same doubts, and i paraphrase "what would those peoples lives be like without you, desolate." And you know what, in my case, you would be absolutely correct in that asumption, because my children and hopefully my pets
love the bones of me. And i know that, i may not have 10.000 facebook "friends", but i have about ten true loves.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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Dearest Aronolac, If I may ask another question, I really want to know if the angel you mentioned befor "Leola" can quide me in something. I wish to become more humble befor God. I mean I need to know what I should be doing for him or mankind. I wish I could hear angels or know Gods wish for me. I would do it if I only knew. Anyway, thank you again for your time and answers.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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You see the truth. I am wonderful
And so is everyone else. The Great Source and Center is blushing I suspect, but he made humanity in his image and even humor abounds in the life of Deity care.

You also see the difference love makes. There is so little "out there" even among supposed friendships. Our cat Whiskers (he insisted on the name when he came back from the library after reading Dr. Seuss and he knows my license plate when I come in the drive to greet me) knows the difference between an obligatory pet and one that goes right to his bones. When so done, the purring erupts in torrents, but the pat gets nothing but a gruff stalk to the food dish. It is the difference between really meaning it and just going through the motions.

By the way, buy what you like. The water is fine so long as the center is God.

Thanks for stopping by

Aronolac



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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What is humble to you, Magantice? Wasn't it Jesus who complained at the pretentious acting of the Sanhedrin bowing and scraping before Yahweh while they murderously guarded their influence and the heart of the Temple? To be humble does not require learning an attitude the Pharisees adopted, but about being able to realize the power and glory of God.

Learn all that you can about this God who is ours to teach about to the poor of spirit. Truly the ignorant begin the ascent as you already have and they fall to their face when they learn what they did not see before. In that they will teach you to be humble as you could never learn by yourself. As you learn the mysteries of God, require yourself to contemplate the world as it was before you realized his presence, and then FEEL the world as it is when you know Him. It is in his service that one truly becomes humble.

Leola knows you inside and out. She has her orders from the boss to help you through the weeds of transgression every one of us has done at one time or another. One also becomes humble when they sincerely admit much of what they have said or done made no difference, but it will make a difference when service is entered into. Such a service may be just the wonderful humor you have shared with others, or making do with a hat you had for years so there is money to provide bread to the poor these coming days of tribulation.

No one needs to star like some Pope in the movie The Robe to make an impression. Being humble leads men and women to wonder how you can be so well done without pretension or status seeking. Jesus walked with great dignity among the poor and the rich, and all fell to their knees when he gave them life and health beyond their poor power to provide this for themselves.

Such is the magnanimous gift of healing in the spirit and of the Father, and to receive them all, bow to the Father and praise the Son for their mercy and love so richly given to you and your wonderful smile.

In this Leola knows your heart. Speak to the Father and Leola echoes your praise with you on high. Give the Father his life for you back to him in the things you do for others who can not do it for themselves.

Be at peace.

Aronolac



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