Baltic Sea USO: 3D Sonar reveals perfectly straight lines and angles embedded into the structure

Originally posted by Screwed

Originally posted by InhaleExhale


A person gives an explanation why they find it interesting, their opinion that they dont believe and why they dont and you reply with that,

Just another totally pointless and stupid thread.

When somebody is rude enough to say the above.......You're damn right.
You left THAT part out of your little rant now didn't you?

Again his/her opinion as harsh as they may be. If you take offense you need to work out your own issues before trying to lay responsibility on others.

The point about why is this in this forum are extremely relevant as you yourself have stated that what it is, is unknown.

Just cause its unknown doesn't mean its Alien and from what we do know its in the sea, so its not an unidentified flying object.

This is still confusing it could be an anient city, an underwater city(like bioshock ), a giant crashed UFO, natural structure or who knows what.

Hopefully they keep showing us new info.

reply to post by _Phoenix_


Finding an underwater Bioshock-like city would be so freaking awesome. I'm pretty sure this is now relevant:

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
This is still confusing it could be an anient city, an underwater city(like bioshock

), a giant crashed UFO, natural structure or who knows what.

Hopefully they keep showing us new info.

Here is some new info (dated 6/29) from the MSNBC science and technology page...

Baltic Sea 'sunken UFO' begins to smell like an elaborate scam

Ocean explorers having hard time providing any details as media coverage grows

The ocean explorers who discovered a huge, UFO-shape object on the floor of the Baltic Sea last year are having a heck of a time figuring out what it is.
A suspiciously hard time, some would say...

The Swedish divers, who call themselves the Ocean X Team, claim the object is giving off electrical interference that keeps foiling their attempts to investigate it. "Anything electric out there — and the satellite phone as well — stopped working when we were above the object," said diver Stefan Hoberborn in an Ocean X press release. "And then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again, and when we got back over the object it didn't work."

As a result, there is still only one sonar image in existence of the 200-foot-wide (60-meter-wide) object, which UFO believers say is a crashed flying saucer.

According to experts in remote imaging and geology, however, that image is "lacking in resolution, detail and quantification," is riddled with "numerous processing artifacts" and looks like a spaceship only because the Ocean X team drew a Millennium Falcon-shape outline around it.

Instead, the experts said, what the image shows is probably a roughly circular rock formation called a pillow basalt — rare, but very much of this world...

..."Whenever people make extraordinary claims, it's always a good idea to consider for a moment whether they are personally benefiting from the claim or if it's a truly objective observation," Hill told Life's Little Mysteries.

"In this case, the team clearly has a lot to gain from an extraordinary claim," he said. "Mr. Lindberg is already making plans to take 'wealthy tourists' down in his submarine to view the object.

If he had used a rock hammer to break off a small piece of the object, a geologist could have determined whether it was a pillow basalt in a few minutes. But if it turned out to be a pillow basalt and not a 'mysterious UFO-like object', Mr. Lindberg wouldn't have much of a business plan, would he?"

Its actually quite simple, the more attention we give the easier it is for others to either hoax/mislead.

Look at the religions of today that have been around for over 1000 years, none are unified and all have broken of into sub sects because one interpretation of reality differs from another.

We need to stop trying to create answers for ourselves when the questions are meaning less.

Find out who you are and then there are no more questions as they become useless.

If people want truth they need to walk away from it.

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
This is still confusing it could be an anient city, an underwater city(like bioshock

), a giant crashed UFO, natural structure or who knows what.

Hopefully they keep showing us new info.

Here is some new info (dated 6/29) from the MSNBC science and technology page...

Baltic Sea 'sunken UFO' begins to smell like an elaborate scam

Ocean explorers having hard time providing any details as media coverage grows

The ocean explorers who discovered a huge, UFO-shape object on the floor of the Baltic Sea last year are having a heck of a time figuring out what it is.
A suspiciously hard time, some would say...

The Swedish divers, who call themselves the Ocean X Team, claim the object is giving off electrical interference that keeps foiling their attempts to investigate it. "Anything electric out there — and the satellite phone as well — stopped working when we were above the object," said diver Stefan Hoberborn in an Ocean X press release. "And then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again, and when we got back over the object it didn't work."

As a result, there is still only one sonar image in existence of the 200-foot-wide (60-meter-wide) object, which UFO believers say is a crashed flying saucer.

According to experts in remote imaging and geology, however, that image is "lacking in resolution, detail and quantification," is riddled with "numerous processing artifacts" and looks like a spaceship only because the Ocean X team drew a Millennium Falcon-shape outline around it.

Instead, the experts said, what the image shows is probably a roughly circular rock formation called a pillow basalt — rare, but very much of this world...

..."Whenever people make extraordinary claims, it's always a good idea to consider for a moment whether they are personally benefiting from the claim or if it's a truly objective observation," Hill told Life's Little Mysteries.

"In this case, the team clearly has a lot to gain from an extraordinary claim," he said. "Mr. Lindberg is already making plans to take 'wealthy tourists' down in his submarine to view the object.

If he had used a rock hammer to break off a small piece of the object, a geologist could have determined whether it was a pillow basalt in a few minutes. But if it turned out to be a pillow basalt and not a 'mysterious UFO-like object', Mr. Lindberg wouldn't have much of a business plan, would he?"

edit on 29-6-2012 by Drunkenparrot because: syntax

Bingo! +1,000 points to you! But remember the rules don't matter and the points don't count. That's a good article that incorporates all the skepticism I and others have had about the object. We can wait to see if there's a significant scientific inquiry and if not, we don't have much to go on. I for one hope that such an investigation is launched, if only to answer questions that this team and the media have raised.

reply to post by bluestreak53


The interesting part about this formation as it was originally thought to be a rock formation, but because of it's shape size and seemingly lone appearance at the ocean floor they decided to investigate further. It had been thought to be organic, such as coral, sea sponge or even a type of fungi( this was blown out of proportion by many people jumping to the conclusion it was a mushroom, where they article clearly states mushroom shaped.) The shape however does not appear to be simply a natural rock formation, there are reports claiming magnetic/electromagnetic anomalies, The shapes encountered while on the dive which can form in nature under certain conditions seem too many, and some what complicated for this object to be simply a rock formation.

So far it's a large Hard unidentified material, likely some kind of stone, how ever the shapes, disturbances on/in the object as well as the sea floor around it suggest this object is a little more than Natural Submerged Object, or known organic formation. Irregadless of what it is, your lack of care for the thoughts and feelings of others as well as the discovery of what ever this object may be regardless of origin, is purely ignorant. A new discovery is a new discovery. Being a skeptic is fine, but to belittle others and disregard potential theories as out there as they may be with out further investigation is just silly. If you're not interested why post in this thread? It's your choice what you view and care about, don't rain on others parades to make yourself feel superior, or better educated because in reality you're coming off as the latter.

If you have a theory, state it and provide evidence from your own investigation to support it if not why bother.

I for one am interested in what we have here. I don't believe it's a UFO, or other out of this world discovery at this time, but based on blurry images, and comments from the investigative team I am intrigued as to it's origins. The long disturbance in the sea floor could suggest this object was in motion when it connected with the sea floor. It's unusual shape suggests it was formed by some outside force whether natural or unnatural and could lead to the discovery of natural currents combined with specific sea floor sediment or organisms forming this unusual structure, or perhaps a long since extinct colony of coral to produce this seemingly unique underwater formation. The angle and distance of photography of the object in question seems perfectly fitting to equipment failures in close proximity as well as above the object. Side scan sonar imaging doesn't always require a pass directly over an object to detect it, and in most of the sonar images the object is always to one side of the frame suggesting a direct pass over wasn't the case of the imaging. As well, I do not know the depth off the top of my head perhaps at the surface the distance between the object and surface is enough to avoid disturbance in equipment. They did say equipment failures happened in relatively close proximity to the object. Personally these are the statements that have drawn the most interest from me. Before any mention of the equipment failures I simply thought wow how lucky we are to live here with such wonderful things all around us.

I'm still open to what ever the investigation concludes, natural, unnatural. Earthly or otherwise. This object could very well be a meteorite/comet that could have found it's place on the ocean floor any time from recent history, to ancient/prehistoric time. It's rather callous, and ignorant to pass any discovery off as an assumption with out proper investigation whether by specialist or curious minds alike. Where has human curiosity and imagination gone. Without imagination, the computer your using to make your ignorant belittling remarks would not exist. If you're not interested move along, and your life will remain the same as it will no differently, and give those who are interested a chance to grow and learn from this when the results come out. Then you can say I told you so, or in the case of your post own up like a man. Until then why continue wasting time derailing this thread? You're only wasting your time as well as those interested.

I believe we should be paying more attention to the "trail" that appears to have been left behind after this object "crashed" . Also not many people are mentioning the other object they found not too far away from the first find.

Baltic Sea UFO looks like a scam link

reply to post by Screwed


So if someone asks relevant questions, requires concrete evidence or has suspicions about a story like this they are to be attacked or are some kind of government shill?

So, people are expected to blindly believe what complete strangers are saying on a forum or they should be attacked for being "non-believers"?

A lot of people here are treating this as though it's some kind of religion, and anyone who dares to doubt the credibility of these complete strangers (who we know intend to make a lot of money off of their "find") are blasphemers!

I'm just waiting for the book burning to start.

Deny ignorance? Plenty here positively embrace it!

Originally posted by mckeesport
Baltic Sea UFO looks like a scam link

They are saying Pillow Basalt, but scientist had already said this was not a volcanic region and billow basalt is volcanic. it does not look like basalt by color either.

Originally posted by Screwed

Originally posted by InhaleExhale


A person gives an explanation why they find it interesting, their opinion that they dont believe and why they dont and you reply with that,

Just another totally pointless and stupid thread.

When somebody is rude enough to say the above.......You're damn right.
You left THAT part out of your little rant now didn't you?

I agree, if someone feels a thread is "POINTLESS" and "STUPID" they should just move on and not have to say so IMO.

How stupid is it to read and comment in pages of pointless junk? Think about it.

reply to post by InhaleExhale


Yeah, I can agree with that.
It should probably be in a different forum.
That doesn't mean it isn't worth discussing or is in some way stupid.

Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by Screwed

 

So if someone asks relevant questions, requires concrete evidence or has suspicions about a story like this they are to be attacked or are some kind of government shill?

So, people are expected to blindly believe what complete strangers are saying on a forum or they should be attacked for being "non-believers"?

A lot of people here are treating this as though it's some kind of religion, and anyone who dares to doubt the credibility of these complete strangers (who we know intend to make a lot of money off of their "find") are blasphemers!

I'm just waiting for the book burning to start.

Deny ignorance? Plenty here positively embrace it!

I notice you went on and on about EVRYTHING BUT what it was I had a problem with and was pointing out.

That being the person who called this thread "Stupid" and "pointless".
Care to chime in on that?

Either way scam or not, we will know soon enough. The team is said to return in two weeks time. If they are unable to locate the object upon return OR the object appears to have been disturbed/altered, then it is more than likely not of this world...Why have no other scientists and crews been dispatched to this scene to investigate?

reply to post by Nightchild


Is that dome on the top-right of the structure actually there in reality, or is it just an artists rendition of what they'd imagine the entire object to look like? I'm confused because if that is an accurate image (scope, detail, etc.) then this just got pretty epic...

these doods seriously need to come up with something more compelling on the newest expedition, because a rock formation is kinda banal.

The dude leading the expedition was just on the Ground Zero radio show. He said their last dive raised more questions than revealed answers but said they've found no evidence of metal... he did say in some instances the structure looks to be concrete but they can't confirm that.

I think people and news sources are sensationalizing parts of the true story for whatever reason cause this dude sounded pretty reserved. He thinks it's possibly a natural rock formation that formed or a man made dwelling built pre-ice age.

I guess they go back in 3 weeks or so.

By the way, he said it takes 2 hours for the divers to decompress on the way back up from the sea floor.

Originally posted by Evildead
The dude leading the expedition was just on the Ground Zero radio show. He said their last dive raised more questions than revealed answers but said they've found no evidence of metal... he did say in some instances the structure looks to be concrete but they can't confirm that.

I think people and news sources are sensationalizing parts of the true story for whatever reason cause this dude sounded pretty reserved. He thinks it's possibly a natural rock formation that formed or a man made dwelling built pre-ice age.

I guess they go back in 3 weeks or so.

By the way, he said it takes 2 hours for the divers to decompress on the way back up from the sea floor.

Finally someone who actually listened to the radio interview. There has been so much speculation and misinterpretation posted on the net, and I find it interesting that many people keep on that track instead of listening to the guy who headed the first return expedition.He answered all the relative questions you are all speculating about, and he often laugh at some of the misquoted information on the net. You used the word , '' Reserved '', and that's a perfect word to describe Swedes. Ive lived here for a number of years and they are, in general, very reserved people. They are not people who adhere to boasting or sensationalism and rather keep to everything in moderation.The Swedish word for this is Lagom.. They are a very humble people and very methodical in there approach to getting things done. Even though I see them at times as painfully slow in there approach to things, they are a very innovative country. You all may see there approach as one big conspiracy or a scam, but from my experience living here as an Australian, it is simply very Swedish. These are cultural differences and things do not become a conspiracy simply because you are all not getting the answers you want, when you want them. I might not like there approach to things at times, but I do respect the fact they do get things done in there own way.

is this area close to any of the possible Atlantis sights described by old text?
Does anyone know when/if this was dry land ?