Human Augmentations - Hell yeah!

Originally posted by Paschar0
Have to admit, love the idea despite all the drawbacks. I think like any new technology, it'll be abused by some and there will be problems as well, so everyone fearful or threatened by it will hold those up as reasons we shouldn't do it. Then the whole "God" argument will bring them out in droves, but again, worth it.

The first few years will likely result in a couple of million men running around with 15" tents in their pants...and not one will care what bit how much it costs

I agree, dude. The good thing is, because it can help amputees and handicapped people, I don't think the religious fanatics and the people afraid of it, to be able to stop this from becoming reality, and essentially, holding back humanity.

And as for your last comment...well, to each their own, right? I think I'll spend my cash on a weaponized left arm instead, though.

Originally posted by Gauss

Originally posted by Paschar0
Have to admit, love the idea despite all the drawbacks. I think like any new technology, it'll be abused by some and there will be problems as well, so everyone fearful or threatened by it will hold those up as reasons we shouldn't do it. Then the whole "God" argument will bring them out in droves, but again, worth it.

The first few years will likely result in a couple of million men running around with 15" tents in their pants...and not one will care what bit how much it costs

I agree, dude. The good thing is, because it can help amputees and handicapped people, I don't think the religious fanatics and the people afraid of it, to be able to stop this from becoming reality, and essentially, holding back humanity.

And as for your last comment...well, to each their own, right? I think I'll spend my cash on a weaponized left arm instead, though.

i personally think we will be seeing this in our lifetime.

and i agree that the weaponised limbs should be restricted to the left arm, wouldnt want it going off when im having some 'me time' lol

Haha, that, and call me old-fashioned, but I still prefer shooting guns the good ol' fashioned way. I'll be wielding a gatlin gun with my left hand and a 10 mm Glock with my right. The best of two worlds.

Plus you'll have your own built in 15" tripod

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im in the uk so the best i could manage would be a water pistol in my left and a baseball bat in my right

You guys crack me up. See, the possibilities with human augmentations truly ARE endless.

Oh, and DaveNorris; I live in Sweden most of the time, so the most I'd get to carry would be a useless (but strong!) chunk of metal. One of the reasons why I want to move to the US before augmentations become a reality.

In the future the only way to get a job using machines will be to be a cyborg!
and after that how can you say you are free?
a hacker could short circuit you. or just the government.

I can call myself free as long as it's my own decision to become augmented. Even if I cannot find work un-augmented, it's still my own choice whether to remain human, or "upgrade" myself to human+. Besides, I'm certain that there will in time come a solution to the problem of employing augmented people rather than regular humans, in the form of either law/quotation or other ways.

In the end, though, again, it is a natural course for humanity to take, that we will choose to rather employ human+, because they are (perceived to be) the "superior" "race" between humans and human+. It is, in a way, a manifestation of "survival of the fittest".

And yes, a hacker could attack you, but I would expect all augmentations to come with ample firewalls and other protection before being fielded.

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Well in that vein.... i want submachine gun in my juggies like the fembots in Ausin Powers. But i want them to shoot confetie! that would be awsome!!! it would make every occasion magical

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I'm....sure you'd have to custom-order that kind of, ehm, equipment.

In that same vein, I give you clown porn.

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'lump of metal'? what not even a swiss army knive lol

i found a few more articles on the subject
brain controlled prosthetics
chemical circuits
brain implants
posthuman discrimination

reply to post by DaveNorris


Thanks for the links, dude. This is really interesting stuff. It's fascinating how we can actually see science getting closer and closer to developing biomechanical augmentations. Unlike in Deus Ex, however, nanomachine augmentations are actually being developed parallel to biomechanical augs, since we're doing a ton of research into that too.

But personally? I'll take biomechanical augmentations over nanomachines any day.

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why not have both, i can definately see the potential for a convergance of technolagies

That's a fair point, actually. Why didn't I think of that?

As a sidenote I strongly disagree with the article that said we'll get wiped out by post-humans, btw. If we assume post-humans are augmented humans, then they won't be BORN augmented, but it'll be an active choice on their end. There's a good chance that family, friends and co-workers of theirs will be regular humans, so hating humans wouldn't be the norm imho. Ultimately, they'd still be "human" even if they aren't human.

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good point, just thought it kinda went well with the conversation about non-augmented people being put out of jobs, would probably cause a rift between the 2 types of people

Yeah, I think you're right in that it would cause a bit of a rift due to employers choosing human+ over humans for employment. But I don't think this rift would lead the two into two different "races" or the perception of two different races existing.

More likely, the relationship between humans and human+ would be something similar to (Hope I'm not offending anyone now) blacks or latinos versus whites - some people on both sides would hate human+ or humans, because of bigotry. Most wouldn't care either way. Some employers would secretly or openly favor human+, and some would humans. Meanwhile, all human+ would probably have family and friends that were humans, and vice versa, and so life would go on.

I am, however, guessing that certain lines of work would prefer augmented people, while others would favor non-augmented people. For example, the security industry would likely end up employing almost one hundred percent augmented people only, while I'm sure there would be professions where having augmentations would be more of a liability than a boon, such as in IT security perhaps.

I also suspect, though, that augmented people would make up an "upper class" of sorts because of higher paychecks due to more demanding jobs, and regular humans would become middle- and/or underclass. But I can also not picture David Rockefeller sporting a mechanical arm, so one never knows.

That's just my guess though.

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i think it would most likely be the upper class that have the first augments as it would probably be pricey. also it would be a good way fight against aging and we all know how they like to stay young lol

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OMG where did you get my college years tape from???

I guess you're right about that.

I'm mostly curious about the combat aspects of augmentations. I suspect that PMC's, security companies, Armed forces, police and the like might actually finance augmentations for their personnel (just like in Deus Ex: HR), and let them either work or pay it off. Similarly, banks and computer companies may finance cerebral implants or augmentations to help in their line of work, simply because many higher ups will perceive it as necessary, and people won't be able to afford it in the beginning, as you say.

Who knows, the US military might even offer to pay for the augmentations if you join? That might be the next big thing, sort of like they offer to pay for college education today. If so, I'm totally signing up.

Originally posted by Gauss
Who knows, the US military might even offer to pay for the augmentations if you join? That might be the next big thing, sort of like they offer to pay for college education today. If so, I'm totally signing up.

like in starship troopers..klkl
iv never really played the Deus Ex games though