If you were Assad, what would you do?

reply to post by SaneThinking




The difference between Syria and other countries already overthrown is that Syria, who receives the majority of her weapons from Russia, is more than capable of fighting back.

Long term, they would not be a match for NATO but if Assad choses, he can fight back- terrorism, he could attack Israel, if you push someone into a corner, they will fight back and he has the means to do so.

Syria also has potentially the largest chemicals weapons capability of the entire region.

what I would do is irrelevant.

that guy needs to put on his track shoes and run for it.

he won't of course...he's fully convinced of his own delusion that this turns out well for him.

from 2010
[Syria's property market on the rise as Dubai dips]
www.globalpropertyguide.com...

also...

Foreigners may own land in Syria. But Syria is still considered by the US as a principal sponsor of terrorism, which does not however render land ownership in Syria illegal in US eyes. Syria is also still under a state of emergency, which has been in force since March 1963.

www.globalpropertyguide.com...

So I would say that real estate speculation is to blame for the conflict.

"Syria has the biggest potential in the region"
online.wsj.com...

Originally posted by michaelbrux
what I would do is irrelevant.

that guy needs to put on his track shoes and run for it.

he won't of course...he's fully convinced of his own delusion that this turns out well for him.

Or maybe he does not want to abandon his people. That would be the sick irony.

He knows full well he will be killed if he stays, but like Gaddafi, he will stick it out until the end IMO.

Weird really because if you hated your people so much you sent death squads to kill women and children, you'd think he would be off with all the loot he can take.

But no, for some reason, he's still there. Why?

reply to post by Wonderer2012


he has nowhere to run.

as president, he is responsible for every life in his land; the blood of all the dead in his land is on his hands.

still, you'd think he'd try do something. it took him 15 months to finally decide the war is very real...when he had that interview with Barbara Walters, he considered the whole thing 'a game he plays'.

Homs, Syria...that's his wife's hometown...and you know what happened there.

Why is he still there?

He probably thinks all of this is going to be someone else's problem in the end...

No...its going to be his problem. and he's only 47 years old.

His country is a war zone and His people are dying in the streets.

and He thinks somehow the problem is going to magically disappear.

He could put a freeze on foreign land purchases.

And that would be probably enough, that and get those helicopters from Russia returned that were sent there for maintenance.

Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

he has nowhere to run.

as president, he is responsible for every life in his land; the blood of all the dead in his land is on his hands.

still, you'd think he'd try do something. it took him 15 months to finally decide the war is very real...when he had that interview with Barbara Walters, he considered the whole thing 'a game he plays'.

Homs, Syria...that's his wife's hometown...and you know what happened there.

Why is he still there?

He probably thinks all of this is going to be someone else's problem in the end...

No...its going to be his problem. and he's only 47 years old.

His country is a war zone and His people are dying in the streets.

and He thinks somehow the problem is going to magically disappear.

How can you claim- 'he thinks somehow the problem is going to disappear?' Where do you get this from? It is complete speculation without anything to support it all other than you struggle to accept the truth.

If he stays, like Gaddafi, he knows he will die.

He could go to Russia, with enough money anyone can go anywhere, there are many countries willing to home a 'dictator on the run' for the right price.

Run and seek asylum in Iran and live off all the wealth he's accumulated while in power.

Or end up dying in office like his old man.

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

he has nowhere to run.

as president, he is responsible for every life in his land; the blood of all the dead in his land is on his hands.

still, you'd think he'd try do something. it took him 15 months to finally decide the war is very real...when he had that interview with Barbara Walters, he considered the whole thing 'a game he plays'.

Homs, Syria...that's his wife's hometown...and you know what happened there.

Why is he still there?

He probably thinks all of this is going to be someone else's problem in the end...

No...its going to be his problem. and he's only 47 years old.

His country is a war zone and His people are dying in the streets.

and He thinks somehow the problem is going to magically disappear.

How can you claim- 'he thinks somehow the problem is going to disappear?' Where do you get this from? It is complete speculation without anything to support it all other than you struggle to accept the truth.

If he stays, like Gaddafi, he knows he will die.

He could go to Russia, with enough money anyone can go anywhere, there are many countries willing to home a 'dictator on the run' for the right price.

it is speculation.

15,000 dead Syrians.

some of his cities are ruins.

weapons continue to flow into the country.

some of his military command is defecting.

even if he somehow wins this, which is his first war, his country will take years to recover...how effective will the recovery be considering how awful this man is at protecting the lives of his people?

Yemen didn't have as many dead as Syria...their President had to resign and leave.
15,000 exceeds the number of dead soldiers for America in 11 years of war on multiple fronts.

Assad has no future and since its a Syrian problem...he won't have anyone to blame for his situation.

Perhaps his future involves the same end as Gaddafi.

No one is going to care. it is his choice. and his choice alone.

Originally posted by michaelbrux

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

he has nowhere to run.

as president, he is responsible for every life in his land; the blood of all the dead in his land is on his hands.

still, you'd think he'd try do something. it took him 15 months to finally decide the war is very real...when he had that interview with Barbara Walters, he considered the whole thing 'a game he plays'.

Homs, Syria...that's his wife's hometown...and you know what happened there.

Why is he still there?

He probably thinks all of this is going to be someone else's problem in the end...

No...its going to be his problem. and he's only 47 years old.

His country is a war zone and His people are dying in the streets.

and He thinks somehow the problem is going to magically disappear.

How can you claim- 'he thinks somehow the problem is going to disappear?' Where do you get this from? It is complete speculation without anything to support it all other than you struggle to accept the truth.

If he stays, like Gaddafi, he knows he will die.

He could go to Russia, with enough money anyone can go anywhere, there are many countries willing to home a 'dictator on the run' for the right price.

it is speculation.

15,000 dead Syrians.

some of his cities are ruins.

weapons continue to flow into the country.

some of his military command is defecting.

even if he somehow wins this, which is his first war, his country will take years to recover...how effective will the recovery be considering how awful this man is at protecting the lives of his people?

Yemen didn't have as many dead as Syria...their President had to resign and leave.
15,000 exceeds the number of dead soldiers for America in 11 years of war on multiple fronts.

Assad has no future and since its a Syrian problem...he won't have anyone to blame for his situation.

Perhaps his future involves the same end as Gaddafi.

No one is going to care. it is his choice. and his choice alone.

I don't mean to offend you, but your views really worry me.

You talk of 15,000 dead, yet that is a #ing result of the West and her allies funding terrotists to destabilse the country!

Is Assad to tell his police and military to stand down and let the 'rebels' wreak as much havoc as they like?

Seriously.

Assad didn't ask for the West to pick on him. I think it says a lot he hasn't left and gone to Iran with billions of dollars. He could. But he hasn't.

reply to post by Wonderer2012


you seem to know more about how those 15,000 people died than I do, but if Assad cared about his people he would have done something similar to:

Haile Selassie in WWII. He fled Ethiopia and fought against the invading Italians as a government in Exile.
The French did the same when the Germans marched into Paris...they didn't allow their city to be reduced to rubble for a man.

Assad's pride is too great to follow well established and successful techniques in fighting aggressors.

and most likely...no amount of Syrian blood flowing through the streets of Assad's glorious regime is too much, if it means keeping his exalted Throne.

Personally I think Assad should hand himself over to The Hague and stand trial for War Crimes, especially since he has now offically declared the horrid bloodbath in Syria to be a war. At least he will spend the remainder of his life in a cozy cell, watch tv, have a playstation and excercise in the gym and study for a degree of something (International Diplomacy and Politics spring to mind) This would be the best option for him rather than be captured in Syria and dangle from the end of a very long rope, or even be shot Romanian Style.

Assad has two realistic options.

1) Cut a deal with the west to get out of town where he's promised immunity from any prosecution in a tropical choice where he can live miserably ever after.

2) If he's determined to hold power, he has to widen the war. This thing is being set up to a conflict he can't win, so he needs to get allies. The Russians or Chinese would sell him out as pragmatists, so what he
should do is attack Israel.

That is a difficult war to win, probably, but it might bring in other Arab nations as allies, and if he does it soon enough, it puts Turkey and Egypt in awkward positions. Given the extent to how far this has progressed, he either has to scorch the Earth or leave now.

It's not a moral statement, just a practical one.

This might just be me also, but you'd have to be some sort of moron to turn yourself in to the International Criminal Court. The idea that you have institutions that exist outside of any sovereign accountability to a democratic populace drives me, along with many other Americans crazy.

And before someone says it, yes, our government is just as bad or worse in practice, but at least the theory is right.

smoke a fatty and ride it out

If I was Assad, I'd just let off all the chemical and Biological weapons on Israel and all the rebel held towns. Nato is coming regardless, so if i'm going to end up in a bodybag or crispy crittered, might as well take my enemies down with me...

reply to post by Wonderer2012


He should do the opposite of Israel and their Sampson option , he should do the Delilah option ,cut his hair and plead for mercy . To bad he does not have some long range missles that would reach Saudi Arabia, he could take out a palace or two maybe hit Mecca and medina . Hell the whole Arab world is against him he might as well go out in style.

Originally posted by nostromo85
If I was Assad, I'd just let off all the chemical and Biological weapons on Israel and all the rebel held towns. Nato is coming regardless, so if i'm going to end up in a bodybag or crispy crittered, might as well take my enemies down with me...

It's his Arab buddies selling him short , he should hit them all for their treachery first and foremost Amadueshabag of Iran .

Originally posted by johncarter
Nice try there buddy. Assuming the infamous syrian secret police have paid you generously for such propaganda abroad, let me rewrite your text and ask the same question;

You've got a set of kahonies 10 foot in diameter while you're talking about propaganda.

Assuming you to be American -- we wake, go thru our day and go to sleep drenched in propaganda. The real problem with the Middle East is ........ us. We are looting the Middle East and the rest of the world. We are supporting the theft of Palestinian land and the murder of those people. We are working to steal every resource that is not nailed down. We continue to support apartheid Israel.

The greater the degree of flag waving, the lower the intellect. The stars and stripes stand no longer stand for freedom -- it stands for crimes against humanity. Do you have the intellect to understand the facts?

Originally posted by cassandranova
This might just be me also, but you'd have to be some sort of moron to turn yourself in to the International Criminal Court. The idea that you have institutions that exist outside of any sovereign accountability to a democratic populace drives me, along with many other Americans crazy.

And before someone says it, yes, our government is just as bad or worse in practice, but at least the theory is right.

No, the theory is not right. It's worse than "not right". It's fubar.

Our system is totally broken and corrupt. The ICC is a poor joke on humanity. This is demonstrated by the fact that every American administration since Kennedy commits heinous international crimes but not one member of those administrations has *ever* been held to account before the ICC.

My estimate of your intellect declines in direct proportion to the amount of blind flag-waving you engage in.