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Originally posted by PurpleChiten
reply to post by petrus4
If Christ came back today, at least 75% of the people who say they follow him would try to re-crucify him.
Originally posted by cavtrooper7
reply to post by petrus4
Thank God I'm weird and would fight to stop it.
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
reply to post by petrus4
When people allow religious beliefs to cloud their judgment, they degrade their humanity, their intelligence AND the belief system they claim to follow.
Originally posted by SuperFrog
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
reply to post by petrus4
When people allow religious beliefs to cloud their judgment, they degrade their humanity, their intelligence AND the belief system they claim to follow.
Hitchens came to the same conclusion, and I believe he was right.
Originally posted by petrus4
If I hadn't seen the level of aggression from atheists that I have at times online, then I might be inclined to agree. It's been proven to me, however, that theists do not have a monopoly on negative behaviour.
Originally posted by petrus4
I personally don't believe that theistic or atheistic belief has any correlation with practical morality whatsoever. You can have enormously kind and altruistic theists on the one hand, and atheists like Stalin on the other; or on a more mundane level, you can simply have someone who is as rage filled as Dawkins. That goes completely the opposite way of course, as well; with the Abrahamic bodycount that everyone knows about, and extremely principled and altruistic atheists.
Originally posted by petrus4
Both exist. The challenge for some atheists is to get rid of their vendetta towards theism; which in and of itself, actually provides evidence against their claim of superior atheistic morality. Atheism can be as valuable as any other philosophy; but not, as with theism, when it is afflicted with arrogance and rage.edit on 29-6-2012 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SuperFrog
Originally posted by petrus4
If I hadn't seen the level of aggression from atheists that I have at times online, then I might be inclined to agree. It's been proven to me, however, that theists do not have a monopoly on negative behaviour.
Level of aggression from atheists? Really? Where? How?
Originally posted by getreadyalready
” Gentlemen, we are going to relentlessly chase perfection, knowing full well we will not catch it, because nothing is perfect. But we are going to relentlessly chase it, because in the process we will catch excellence. “ -- Vince Lombardi, day one with the 1 and 10 Packers that never again saw a losing season under his leadership.
Great post flash.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Ok, I don't even know what to think of this one. Looks like a bunch of Christians walk into a predominately Muslim festival, if I am understanding this right, and well...watch for yourself what happens.
They get stoned, egged, bottled, and cursed at by American Muslims. The police, outnumbered by a lot, are put in the position of having to escort the Christian group out. Even though they aren't the ones throwing the stuff!
So what is right here? Who is right here? The video guy makes some excellent points like "They can't give us two officers to protect us, but they sure can get 14 to lead us out!"
But I figured this one might provide an interesting conversation piece for the political madness forum- cause this is madness, if nothing else. Both sides have a right, but the police must make decisions based on manpower... Bizarre.
:shk:
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by mainidh
unreal, I cannot believe you said that. Did you even WATCH the video? My god..
Did you? The title of the thread is misleading. They were not "stoning"anybody, some youths were throwing bottles and rocks at a group of people there specifically to threaten, harass, and insult them.
You've got the biker mantra in your avvy, would your group of friends allow some other group to scream insults at them through a megaphone, threaten them, tell them they are going to hell, and that they have no right to be in their town? I know my wouldn't.
I'd never advocate that. I will always proclaim my distance from outlaws. From miscreants. I will not attack those who oppose me, with violence. If I did, would I have your support?