Does life seem surreal to you too?

reply to post by daynight42


I feel your pain...

I feel like me and 1% of my friends are like you and the rest of 99% of my friends are here for the show, fun, entertainment...

They dont care what happen as long they have a simple normal life like the other 99%...

I also feel as if trying to have them understand taht the lifestyle they have is wrong is a big waste of time...

There is nothing you can do, they dont want to know, they wont hear you they will even laugh at your for trying. They don't care and this is what they chosen...

So isntead find the great people around you and stay with them...

I am amazed at the perceptions of people on here. There are truly some aware people that are seeing things thru objective eyes for the first time. There truly must be some thing working behind the scenes on all of these minds. It ain't just the internet or ATS, but something deeper. Dare I call it spiritual?

How else can it be explained that so many feel the world as we know it, "slipping away"?

That all the ordinary goals and solutions don't work anymore. That tends to make us feel guilty for not being "satisfied or "fulfilled" like, what is wrong with you?

Careful of that guilt trip. Surely I have felt dispossessed, disenfranchised and ostracized my whole life. But I always was able to accept that in the light of some teaching I received when I was young that said I would be in the world and the world would know me not. Or in the world, but not "of it". Like not a product "of the world". Its why I haver never felt comfortable with the concept of education, success, possessions, and popularity. I shy from holidays and social gatherings or having a bunch of money and stuff. Those things are so heavy pressed into our psyche from early on.

It actually drove me to what the world considers "homeless" or "destitution, where I lived for some period. Rather than be a part of the system, I completely rebelled against it. It was then that I became totally free in my mind from all the shackles that bound me to it. Like shedding a cocoon for the first time I was on the outside looking in. Once I accepted that, I was able to be just happy. Not like raptured or ascended or something, just happy even though I had nothing. (I didn't hear Choir music then either.)

This is normal. I fail to see the issue.

To the OP in particular.

I didn’t read all the responses but I, too, feel that all around me is surreal.

Some of my circumstances might have brought this on, one being that I live alone, and was struck by a car 3 years ago. I have but one person come to see me in these years of healing, my physical therapist, and she seems to be the only ‘real’ aspect to my life.

Mt computer is my companion. I have been following, researching, studying circumstances, such as the JFK assassination, the fake moon landings, and the 9-11 hoax and more and more I cannot believe that there are such devious people that these occurrences are second nature to them to perpetrate. Being Canadian? Being alone? Why do I not have a person to confab with for real, rather than on forums with strangers? I feel like no other Canadian follows all this. Unreal!

My sleep had been disrupted over the past 3+ years, from pain and often I am up all night and sleep all day--- this mix-up puts me in the dark with no stores open, no one to telephone, and the feeling that I am the only person left on earth.

My emotions have been somewhat paralyzed. I dropped a pot of soup ( a first for me) onto the floor a couple of nights back and just sat and stared at it! Just stared and never reacted, not even a curse. 2 of my wheelchair wheels were in the mess and how much went under the dishwasher? Well I had no choice but to wheel on through the mess to the paper towels and floor cloths, not believing this could happen to me in real life.

I’ve never tanked up my car. When I began driving it was all Full Serve, even though I was walking. Now in a wheelchair I used to still use Full-Serve. All local FS’s are gone, now, and everything is Self Serve: what a mess with the pumps being up a step and some things out of reach. I hire a young fellow to go tank up my car, and one more thing in life becomes surreal. Soon I will be obsolete!

Like where do I belong? Why does it feel that I might even be invisible?

Thank you to all those who have given such excellent responses.

I feel you. I have felt the same way since an awakening experience back in '08. As I re-assimilated myself back into the mainstream, re-learning to chop wood and carry water, I frequently ask what animates others around me. Most have bought the dream state so fully it I'm left vexed. Below are some quotes from other's that experienced what you are experiencing now.

“Just look at us.  Everything is backwards.  Everything is upside-down.  Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality.” -  Michael Elner

“People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to stop them from facing their souls.” - Karl Jung

“Human sickness is so severe that few can bear to look at it... but those who do will become well.” - Vernon Howard

“The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.  If you try it, you will often be lonely, and sometimes frightened.  But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning YourSelf.” - F. Nietzsche

"Gravity is the anchor of light; stillness the ruler of movement." - Lao Tzu

Cheers to our journey,

I suffer from Derealisation and Depersonalisation as part of a severe psychiatric disorder, it can feel quite awful sometimes. To feel as if the world around me is not real and that i'm not real. It's been pretty much a daily occurrence for me for years.

I've done as you do, walking around and feel that everything is not real, or that i'm not real. I've wondered how the people i see walking around can get on with their lives the way they do, i've felt like they don't seem aware or fully comprehend what's going on in the world around them, they are distracted, they are asleep, they are conditioned. Until one day i thought;

"What if most of those people i'm looking at are walking around thinking and feeling the exact same things as me?"

It hasn't stopped the Derealisation and Depersonalisation, but it leaves me with the comfort that i'm very likely not the only one feeling the way i do.

You can never really know what's going on in someones mind. Just because someone may seem unawake and unaware, doesn't mean they are. I think there's a hell of a lot more people then you'd like to believe who are awake and aware then are not, they just don't know what the hell to do about it.

One thing i've found that does help me with these moments is Mindfulness.

Wiki on Mindfulness

Wiki on Mindfulness (used in psychology)

Edit: One thing to never do is to try and isolate yourself. I turned into a recluse for about 3 years when i became quite ill mentally. It ultimately made my feelings of Derealisation and Depersonalisation worse.

reply to post by daynight42


I totally feel the same way buddy, I've felt this way along time now. I have now gone back to college, got my degree in social studies and on to get my masters in Counselling and Psychotherapy. Trying to understand people more and society. I now work with the homeless and addicts. Stuff like this can open your eyes when you get like this, they are away from everyone else seeing and hearing what they go through or have been through changes things a little. But your right it does seem "dream like".. I think we need to change our routines, change what we do, do new things, instead of "Living" we need to "LIVE LIFE".... I don't know ... it feels like I'm waiting for something.. something to happen You're not alone anyway buddy.

I go through this every once and awhile. You stop and look around and even the trees blowing in the wind don't seem right. When I watch people go about their lives they kind of remind of NPC in a game like they're not real aswell.

Just saying ... I can relate.

Life IS surreal because we don't know what it is or is really all about, but when we know we don't know it becomes a fascinating mystery, and when we get to the end of everything that makes no sense including the end of unneccessary suffering, we come to realize that enjoying life and having fun is the only reasonable response to life's absurdity.

Creativity and playfulness, even in the face of the difficulties and challenges of life in all of it's manifestations, is the work of the true hero in his new and resurrected life.

@OP

I have the same feelings. I kind of see the origin as money, our current dependency on currency and consumerism. It is so unreal, untangible, and yet we have no choice but to go along with it.. and that causes me extreme frustration, sadness, anger, confusion, etc etc. I try to isolate myself from it, but then my natural need for social interaction with others seeps in and causes me issue.. Obviously I am having a rough time trying to balance myself. It goes well a few months, and then I find myself falling back into the trap because "I have no choice." I keep telling myself that, 'I have no choice" but in reality I do have a choice, there is always a choice, and I must accept the current state of the planet I have been placed in, in order to escape those feelings of desperation..

So now, I go to work, but it's not because of money, I go because I enjoy my coworker's company and when my customers leave feeling good about themselves, it gives me joy. I try to avoid shopping, I try to avoid TV and internet (ATS and ondemand are my vices, but I have cut back!), and just really listen to my intuition on what I would like to be occupying my reality with at the moment..

It's rough, and I try to talk to people and they become very defensive about their ways, rather than opening their mind and listening... Those are the people I know to slowly back away from because they will never change.

Sit back, and enjoy being the observer.. If this is all simulation, you have nothing to lose on the sidelines... You can wholeheartedly participate by all means, but even if you feel "Above the game", it'll eventually suck you back in somehow. Personally, I am terrified of becoming pregnant for this reason--- stuck indefinitely.

So, your answer is Yes, life is surreal, because it is surreal. Everything is perspective, we don't know the truth, but you are not alone in your thinking whatsoever. You feel like life will go on without you, and it will, life always continues on, the same as it ever was, people will forget you because you are not like them, they recognize you are different, and therefore are indifferent. Heed everyone's advice: ground yourself, start a garden, meditate, stargaze, on a day off from work, say screw errands and go visit local preserves for a hike, or your local lake for a swim, or if you can't get away simply explore the nooks and crannies of your yard... utilize the leisure our Mother provides for us, life should be about enjoyment.. You can continue your life peacefully, but you must not forget you are a part of something bigger. We must not think "It's a small world" because the Earth has many more things to beheld, much more than we believe we know, and that is absolutely breathtaking and beautiful.

reply to post by daynight42



I dislike threads that are titled along the lines of ''Can anyone feel a change is going to happen/happening?'' e.c.t but this particular thread I can relate to. It's like all of a sudden you're looking in from the outside, it may be raised awareness but how do we know it's not lowered awareness? I don't really welcome it.....yet....because where does feeling like that leave us? Feeling a bit desolate maybe? It's good to know other's have this surreal feeling though, gives some comfort at least. I've not yet read the whole thread yet, will do so later.

It is time for all of us who feel this way to move up the octave, move up in frequency, ascend or what ever metaphor or symbol you wish to choose for moving up one or more levels in this gigantic, super sophisticated computer simulation that we now call life. This thread and the opinions expressed by the vast majority of participants indicates to me that they are waking up and have or soon will exercise the mechanisms of free will to indicate by intention the desire to depart this frequency range for one harmonic with their desire and intention.

In other words, I don't feel right here. This is not for me. I want change. I want to go home. I want to leave.

Take it Easy. Make your choice to go with the new or stay with the old (bad choice IMHO). Chill out. Marvel in jocularity at the absurdity and joyously wait for the very rapidly approaching departure point. You have to do nothing but choose.

That the so-called "PTB" or "elite" (that's a joke) are like an evil squid with economic tentacles wrapped around the face of humanity, isn't helpful (to say the least), I'll give people that, but as I like to point out to a friend of mine who's an obsessive complainer about the "state of the world", that's NOT the real world but a false matrix of imprisonment, and so I think the frustration that people are feeling is the degree to which so many are living in THAT world and the feeling that there is no escape.

I think this was the reason that Jesus referred time and again to the "kingdom of heaven", not as an after-life domain of wispy floating spirits, but the real reality and life as it is meant to be, and most assuredly, a realm or domain of freedom and possibility that is clearly to be differentiated FROM the imperialist, top-down domination of earthly rule, which is a type of kingdom of hell on earth.

But whoever rejects it and walks out of that and into the new life, and leads others in the process, that person is a hero, no matter the degree to which they are able to successfully influence the world and others around them. It makes no difference is there are still bills to pay and dishes and laundry to do. It's a state of mind and being, a perceptual reality.

Therefore, take heart and be of good cheer, because truth and reality beats out lies and delusion every time.

And we are winning the hearts and minds of a generation, the awareness is growing, that things as they are, are not as they ought to be.

Do not succumb. Be a hero, smile, and share the laughter and joy of life as it really is, which is a free and open domain of fresh new possibility wherein the meek shall inherit the earth (manifestation) and the pure in heart shall see God (truth and life as it is).

Be the solution, not part of the problem.

Best Regards,

NAM

reply to post by canadiansenior70


Yours was one of the loneliest, most poignant posts I've ever read on the internet. Please know that all of us in this thread see you. You are not invisible. I'm sending love and light your way.

OP, you sound like me a while back, a little before I gave up on trying to find the meaning of it all. I'm almost positive that this is the pique of maturity, realizing that nothing that you do on this rock right now will mean anything of a significant degree to someone 100 years after your death. It's the realization that you can argue pointlessly to try to spread your message however you want it, but the reality of it is that it doesn't matter.

Nothing we do here on this planet matters at all. We live, we die. We all will eventually be forgotten. Nothing we do matters, it is us -- man -- that makes everything we do mean something to us. If I shot a kid right now, of course I would feel bad now, and I would be arrested, sent to jail. But in 3000 years, who would remember that this ever happened? In 3000 years, what we did here today would be meaningless. It would be an insignificant event. Nothing means anything until we attach value to our actions.

So why? Why do we attach value to everything? I'll tell you, OP. We attach value to our actions because if we did not, life would be meaningless. We make it illegal for a civilian to kill a civilian because if we did not, we would not be able to survive. And why do we survive? We survive so we can live meaninglessly. It is an endless spiral that no one wants to think about. No one gets happy from the thought that nothing you do will be remembered forever. Even if you hijacked a spacecraft and blew up an alien planet, in an undetermined time from now, none of that will matter to anyone. If you traveled to a parallel universe, nothing you did in this one will matter.

Don't give up though. At least, I didn't. The thought is something to bear, but I found my crutch.

I will not lie to you, I do not think in the deepest bowels of my heart that care what happens to everyone. On the surface, yes, and in my mind, yes. But in the deepest nadir in the crevice of my soul I do not believe I care about what happens to anyone on this rock. There is an individual that gave my life meaning. It is a person who I will sacrifice everything to to make that person happy. I don't care if that person wants me dead. I don't care if that person wants to kill me themselves. If that person told me to jump from a bridge, I would gladly do so with a smile on my face. Am I mad? I don't know, although I'm a logical and calm human being. I know the consequences of my actions, but no matter the consequence, if it makes that person happy, I would gladly accept.

That is love. That is what you feel when you found the right person. Not 'faith' and 'time to get to know one another'. Not because you 'have so much in common'. It is that specific feeling, that you would give up everything in the entire world to make this person happy. That is love, and that is the meaning of MY life. I need to find that person. I don't care what it takes, but that is what I strive to find. That person is somewhere on this rock. Just being next to person will bring me great Euphoria, and being away will cause me to cry at night for what seems to be no apparent reason.

The meaning of life is to find the meaning of YOUR life. To find out what you were put here to do. To find out why you were named so-and-so, put on Earth, the 3rd rock from the Sun, with the Moon, in a giant galaxy, among hundreds of thousands of other galaxies, in THIS universe. You DO have a meaning. You need to find out what it is.

~Live, not by being alive, but by having a purpose

Here is what I think is going on with you. It's the spiritual part of you that is taking over your life. As it does, the material world and its little intriques will become less important to you. Your spirit is hungry, and you must feed it with knowledge of itself or repress it with material nonsence. Your spirit says "I AM", you must help it understand why it is and that it has always been the "I AM". If you decide to take care of your spirit and help it re-discover itself, then I wish you good luck. Most of the spiritual paths here are probably wrong, but I believe all can teach us something of spiritual value.

Honest post.

I usually walk around (virtually anyway) with my nose held high believing that I'm better than the mass of people on ATS who are lonely losers stuck behind a computer dreaming of "unlocked potential", "higher dimensions", etc.

In this case, I feel this connection. It's like my life isn't in high definition anymore. Does that make sense to anyone else? It's like I'm seeing the world through some kind of filter. Like I'm seeing the world in third-person, but behind my own eyes. Think of first person shooter games. Even if your playing through the character's eyes, you're still only seeing what's on screen.

I don't know if I'm making sense.

Originally posted by WickettheRabbit
Honest post.

I usually walk around (virtually anyway) with my nose held high believing that I'm better than the mass of people on ATS who are lonely losers stuck behind a computer dreaming of "unlocked potential", "higher dimensions", etc.

That was hilarious!

reply to post by daynight42


I've said it before and I'll say it again. Today's life seems alot like the old movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." Slowly but surely, I am becoming more isolated from "them." Only speaking for myself, I rather enjoy my distance from the masses. They have nothing to offer me, unless I misplace my cell phone.

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There's no such thing really as a "group" only individuals, no "them", just people.

My neighbor likes to say that EVERYONE in Vancouver is an a-hole who don't care about anyone but themselves. What a ridiculous and absurd statement.