One of the last taboes: women being envious of other women at work

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This is a site with first an article and then reactions by mostly women. Topic: how women treat other women at the work place. The writer proposes that females should not act sexy with men so not to become the target of the other females' wrath.

Slippery slope, because women (not all!) tend to scrutinize the behavior of the other women with a microscope. That's why they think things like "slut" only because a women is good looking.

Now I am myself a women and sick and tired of women. Well except for the 1 percent that's like me: not easily jealous. In my personal life I am ok now with having no female friends. But my issue is with work; job interviews with women tend to have this je ne sais quoi which I don't like. Like the soft growling of animal. Usually this means I won't get the job.

Now job interviews with men are mostly pleasant, sometimes I get hired and sometimes I don't. So men are capable of not letting their genitals decide for them. Nice to know.

I wear make up and tight fitting clothes without being trashy. I do show a bit of cleavage. When having a job interview with a woman the cleavage is not shown and I don't use sexy lipstick colors. So I on purpose de-sexualize my self. Making my self "neutral" so to say.

What do you guys think about female envy at the work place? Love to hear your stories and tips.

Women are catty. Deal with it.

For one thing, we have no way of proving that online responses are definitely from women. Another thing, is that studies show that the better looking you are the better chance you will get the job, whether or not the interviewer is male or female. As for jealously, I was very attractive in my younger years and ran into these types of women very rarely in the workplace. I think one's behaviour has a paramount affect in how people react. Don't always assume it's jealousy, they just may not like one's attitude.

reply to post by QueenofWeird

I can't say it's a problem I've ever had (I'm male, old and ugly) but there was a news article I read. It was stated that (via research) attractive women should not send a photo with their resume. The point was that some people (women?) who did the selections on who to invite for an interview would often not invite the attractive people.

How true it is I cannot say but women can be quite strange at work sometimes. A lot of competition for some reason that they guys didn't seem to exhibit amongst themselves.

reply to post by LightSpeedDriver


I have witnessed men exhibiting Hitler-like controlling power over one another. Which is worse do you think?

reply to post by QueenofWeird


A friend of mine once told me that "B*tches is b*tches and n*ggaz is n*ggaz." He's a real piece of work.

I think what he was trying to say, in his own drug-addled way, is that people are all the same to an extent. No matter how far we've evolved and advanced, no matter how civilized we pretend to be, human beings are still just animals subject to old instincts and urges. Women get jealous in sexualized ways, as you've said. Men tend to focus more on productivity; you'll see all the time where men get mad at an overachiever or a brown noser. It's all just part of how we are. Or as my friend above would explain it, "Because chemicals."

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by QueenofWeird

 

I can't say it's a problem I've ever had (I'm male, old and ugly) but there was a news article I read. It was stated that (via research) attractive women should not send a photo with their resume. The point was that some people (women?) who did the selections on who to invite for an interview would often not invite the attractive people.

How true it is I cannot say but women can be quite strange at work sometimes. A lot of competition for some reason that they guys didn't seem to exhibit amongst themselves.
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Yes I know that article, indeed it were women who didn't like the pretty females. By the way I like certain old ugly geezers

By the way, where is that nether world? Australia or the land of the dead? Just curious

edit on 22-6-2012 by QueenofWeird because: (no reason given)

reply to post by LightSpeedDriver


We use to receive resumes with photos from mostly men, very few women. They were never invited in for interviews because sending your photo with your resume is considered bad form.

In addition, it depends on the workplace. In an academic setting with academics and intellectuals, male or female, the rampant pettiness and "I'm better than you" attitudes is quite entertaining to watch. Oh the drama.

reply to post by boncho


How do you deal with it? What's your gender?

reply to post by InTheLight


Let's not start THAT game. I am a woman (last time I checked) and my topic is how women treat women on the work floor.

reply to post by InTheLight


Ok, so in your opinion what kind of behavior is evoking catty responses by women?

reply to post by QueenofWeird


What game do you refer? I'm just relaying what I've witnessed and experienced in the workplace.

Originally posted by InTheLight
reply to post by QueenofWeird

 

What game do you refer? I'm just relaying what I've witnessed and experienced in the workplace.

The going on a tangent game I meant. Sure men behaving brutally with other men is disgusting, yet not my topic. Strangely enough I want this thread to go about what I wrote in the OP

reply to post by QueenofWeird


Again, I have not and still do not experience or witness very much of what you do. So, all I am saying is that your experiences with these types of women may be just your bad luck, or actions and behaviour may play a part in eliciting perceived jealous? reactions in other women.

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Originally posted by Rufflen
reply to post by QueenofWeird

 

A friend of mine once told me that "B*tches is b*tches and n*ggaz is n*ggaz." He's a real piece of work.

I think what he was trying to say, in his own drug-addled way, is that people are all the same to an extent. No matter how far we've evolved and advanced, no matter how civilized we pretend to be, human beings are still just animals subject to old instincts and urges. Women get jealous in sexualized ways, as you've said. Men tend to focus more on productivity; you'll see all the time where men get mad at an overachiever or a brown noser. It's all just part of how we are. Or as my friend above would explain it, "Because chemicals."

Yes I know the theories, yet it's men who chase women because of not getting pregnant/carrying a baby and having the supplies to impregnate a lot of women (which means that we follow the same routine as animals were a lot are born and most die shortly....even though we have one child at a time; I mean not all women who are impregnated by the men are in the position to ensure survival of the new born).

This means that evolution should have created females that select the more nerdy men instead of being obsessed with other women. It's all energy wasted trying to prevent other women getting the men while it's the men that should be "addressed" (By selecting less macho men).

reply to post by InTheLight


I do have a theory: people who love sex tend to be sexy in one way or another. Men pick up the signals of a female that is "willing" to use evolution-like terms. But so do women pick up the availability of other women!

That's why at least at an interview with a woman I become less sexy.

So how sexy were you feeling at the work place?

EDIT: may I ask a candid question? What's your age and how do you feel towards sexy women at work?

Chicks are crazy lol (I'm a woman). I have approximately 2 close female friends, and the rest of them are dudes. At work I definitely get along better with guys. I don't know what it is. I don't like saying bad things about people I don't know, I don't like judging others (especially if I don't know them), and I just always seem to get on the wrong side of women at work. Whenever I see two women together at work it always seems like they are whispering and maybe I'm just being paranoid but it feels like they are talking about co-workers.

I do have two female compatriots at work I enjoy spending time with, however they are both much older than me. Maybe it's just the younger ladies I have a hard time with.

I work in IT, a man's world but regardless, i never compromise when it comes to makeup, fashion and nail polish (most important thing in the universe) I also never wear 'tight' (how tight is tight) clothes, never show cleavage and i have lots of female friends. Never had a problem with a female or male colleague.

What was the question again ... no i have no experience with envy on the work floor, directed towards me or the other way around. I guess you're not a 'people person' like moi

Originally posted by Malynn
Chicks are crazy lol (I'm a woman). I have approximately 2 close female friends, and the rest of them are dudes. At work I definitely get along better with guys. I don't know what it is. I don't like saying bad things about people I don't know, I don't like judging others (especially if I don't know them), and I just always seem to get on the wrong side of women at work. Whenever I see two women together at work it always seems like they are whispering and maybe I'm just being paranoid but it feels like they are talking about co-workers.

I do have two female compatriots at work I enjoy spending time with, however they are both much older than me. Maybe it's just the younger ladies I have a hard time with.

I like Gillian at lot! Just had to say that.

Aren't you interested in how to manipulate those reactions? I mean, unfortunately "they" (women that is ) exist and I have to cope with them. In the mean while I can't behave un-sexy because I am not!

Originally posted by Exitt
I work in IT, a man's world but regardless, i never compromise when it comes to makeup, fashion and nail polish (most important thing in the universe) I also never wear 'tight' (how tight is tight) clothes, never show cleavage and i have lots of female friends. Never had a problem with a female or male colleague.

What was the question again ... no i have no experience with envy on the work floor, directed towards me or the other way around. I guess you're not a 'people person' like moi

Yes but females tend to be more catty when the amount of them is high hahaha. No really. So in your case you girls are treasured so to say by the men and being b-y doesn't work. Does this make sense to you?