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Why man is not allowed into hell

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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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For those who get sent to Heaven instead of the Sitting Area, which level of Heaven are they sent to? Who decides and what is taught or learned at each level?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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For those who get sent to Heaven instead of the Sitting Area, which level of Heaven are they sent to? Who decides and what is taught or learned at each level?


They go to the city, to congregate, walk, and attend the Feast. Nothing new is learned above. at this time, this happens at debrief, before you are allowed to walk. Uriel is over this. Some have said, that he is harsh, and he has no emotion to their passing. But, he is very good at what he does.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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can you explain more about the second death you have mentioned before?
Is it similar to the first death at all?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by willrush
can you explain more about the second death you have mentioned before?
Is it similar to the first death at all?


The first death is physical and the second death is spiritual, the non-existence of the soul.



Rev. 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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so.. the second death would be what people think hell is?.. eternally burning in the lake of fire?
that is interesting.. thank you.
So you said that the spirits in heaven are waiting to come back into the physical world when the new earth is here right?..
do you have any more detail into that?.. is that in relation with the 2012 theories?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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So you said that the spirits in heaven are waiting to come back into the physical world when the new earth is here right?


Yes, mans spirits will be given unto a new vessel/body and then live on in the new earth.



do you have any more detail into that?.. is that in relation with the 2012 theories?


No, nothing of 2012, as too many things must happen before he will return.



Rev. 21:1-4 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Down There?? Satan has never been locked up!! Wake up..he and his angels are on Earth active!! I dont mean any harm. I was raised Christian, but please open youre eyes! NWO started back in 2009. The ANti-Christ will rise from Damascus. He is 34 years old and has black hair...blue eyes....It is already to late!!
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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ok.. i understand there must be many things that need to change until we can get to the new earth.
I cant wait until that kind of peace is upon us!
but.. what are your thoughts on extra-terrestrials?.
my belief is that the higher dimensional beings are more like angels?
idk.. that was something that i thought could be a possibility.
But do you know how the extra-terrestrials relate with god?
or do they at all?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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my belief is that the higher dimensional beings are more like angels? idk.. that was something that i thought could be a possibility.


Explain the attributes of what you mean by these beings?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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well let me say it another way..
are their extra-terrestrial beings, ones that are highly intelligent, and have the capability of traveling through universes, that have a strong relationship with god?
i am also assuming you believe in extra-terrestrials haha



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by willrush
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well let me say it another way..
are their extra-terrestrial beings, ones that are highly intelligent, and have the capability of traveling through universes, that have a strong relationship with god?
i am also assuming you believe in extra-terrestrials haha


There are angels as man calls them, that have a strong relationship with God.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Apollo7
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Down There?? Satan has never been locked up!! Wake up..he and his angels are on Earth active!! I dont mean any harm. I was raised Christian, but please open youre eyes! NWO started back in 2009. The ANti-Christ will rise from Damascus. He is 34 years old and has black hair..It is already to late!!


What are your thoughts on this JHill?

A lot of us believe that the confines in which Satan is currently bound is here on earth? Is that not the case? Or do you think that Satan is bound beneath the earth and his evil minions are the ones doing all of his work for him at this time?

However, I also had the notion that the corrupt "Watchers" might also be bound below the earth and were the ones who gather up all of their power to give to the Beast and/or the Anti-Christ.

Can you elaborate on this at all? Can you give everyone an explanation on the differences between Satan himself, the Dragon, the Beast, as well as the Anti-Christ...or even the demons or whoever is creating havoc on the current earth?
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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Can you explain why the bible wasn't written more clearly, and why so many religions interpret it so differently?

So I gather upon our death we all will have a life review. This correlates with a book written by Lisa Williams entitled "The Survival of the Soul". She explains that we will feel the same emotional feelings of people we have hurt in our lives.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:17 PM
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Can you explain why the bible wasn't written more clearly, and why so many religions interpret it so differently?


The Arc is the one responsible for laying out what you have for the bible today. But, when he gave what to write, many mixed in thoughts and didn't write all that was given to them. Most of the bible today is mainly the writings of the writer, not Fathers own words. So, a lot of items were patched together or the thoughts of the writer.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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yes i know.. i guess i was just looking for more information about extra-terrestrials
haha
but thank you for your answers
I am young and am still trying to find answers to everything.. you seem like someone with a good amount of knowledge about life.
Just this year i have started to have a strong belief in god.. and am starting to see who, and what he really is.. and i am loving it! haha but thank you for this post and giving me more knowledge about the afterlife and such.. it was a great read



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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A lot of us believe that the confines in which Satan is currently bound is here on earth? Is that not the case? Or do you think that Satan is bound beneath the earth and his evil minions are the ones doing all of his work for him at this time?


Satan is bound to his grounds, but he is allowed to come onto common ground if need be. This happened after Jesus returned home. (I am not referring to when the Angel comes and binds him with the chain, that happens later) His angels are doing the work, they are the ones who whisper in your ear to tell you to do bad, they also come as good to get you to do something. But, they regularly go down there to do various things (I cannot speak on this, as I do not know what they do.)



However, I also had the notion that the corrupt "Watchers" might also be bound below the earth and were the ones who gather up all of their power to give to the Beast and/or the Anti-Christ.


Can you explain your version of Watchers?



Can you elaborate on this at all? Can you give everyone an explanation on the differences between Satan himself, the Dragon, the Beast, as well as the Anti-Christ...or even the demons or whoever is creating havoc on the current earth?


Satan - When man was created, he went to Father and said, let me show you that they can be tempted and go a different path. It was granted. He did many things, and saw how man followed what he wanted. He started to like this. He said, if man can obey me here, what about the others. (A big no, no.) Back then, "angels" were given much more free will on what they could do.

If Satan had just tested man and shown Father his point, we would not have this conversation. But, he went further and wanted the power that he came to know could be possible, in his eyes.

The Anti-Christ - This will be a person that will come onto the Earth and deceive many. His intentions on the surface may seem good, but inwardly, he is out to keep others from going home.

Demons - These are some of the ones who decided to go with Satan. All they know is pure hate, but, they are very smart and can deceive like no other. Some have since realized this error, and wanted nothing to do with Satan. (I will not explain what has happened to those ones).

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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by willrush
yes i know.. i guess i was just looking for more information about extra-terrestrials
haha
but thank you for your answers
I am young and am still trying to find answers to everything.. you seem like someone with a good amount of knowledge about life.
Just this year i have started to have a strong belief in god.. and am starting to see who, and what he really is.. and i am loving it! haha but thank you for this post and giving me more knowledge about the afterlife and such.. it was a great read


Upon his return, you will be given more information on extra-terrestrials, all will. Yes, I wish more would come to this realization sooner, than later.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Satan is a Force..that can shapeshift into anything he wants. I just mean he is active on the Earth at this time! I dont feel he has ever been locked up. Satan cannot do anything unless God allows him to do so. In my opinion, Satan was one of the Arch-Angels..whom got into a fight with Arch-Angel Michael over Moses. Arch-Angel Michael threw Satan upon the Earth. It takes 3 Arch-Angels to fight Satans power. All of the Arch-Angels are here on the Earth. There is an un-seen battle going down between humans- Aliens, Demons, Angels are all involved in whatever is going down. I do not know all the answers, and I dont mean any harm by stating what I believe is going on. In my opinion, or just a knowing- The Anti-Christ will rise out of the Middle East in Damascus. He is from the Middle East and has dark hair and blue eyes..and is 34 years old now. The New World Order Agenda started back in 2009. The Battle is decret and un-seen unless you are really paying attention. Pay attention to other humans eyes..they may turn black and then back to normal..this happens so fast..also pay attention to other humans as they walk past you..you may notice them Bowing their Heads..just take a look around..These beings have the ability to jump in and out of the human body. You may see them as small lights going from human to human..or orbs..or shadows..
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Satan was one of the Arch-Angels..whom got into a fight with Arch-Angel Michael over Moses


He was an Arc, but he was not an arc at that time as you have referenced.



All of the Arch-Angels are here on the Earth.


Uriel, Gabriel, and others are not here, because their task requires them to stay above.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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With all due respect- All of the Arch-Angels are already here! I called for them. Raphael is mine. The End times are already happening, just not like we were taught in church.



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