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Originally posted by Justanotherperson
People are fighting over a name. Sort of like exclusive naming rights on stadium. Worshipping Jesus to me is idolatry. People pray towards an image.
How is that any different than worshipping Maria or John?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Reference the above posts of Amethyst and
irdulili .... You two are so far out there ...
words escape me ... Egyptian sects ... Horus,
Nimrod .... YIKES! Your anti-Catholicism is
getting carried away.
And Amethyst - your 'discussion' of Mary not
remaining a virgin her life because of the word
'brethren' has been debunked over and over.
I'd suggest readings for you, but I have a feeling
that you are comfortable, stuck in your anti-Catholic
mode and that you really don't want to know
why the Catholic church teaches what it does.
However, if you dare read what the early church
fathers had to say about Mary, the Saints, etc.
(early as in before the year 200 or so) -
www.catholic.com...
Originally posted by Amethyst
Praying to saints does not help, either,
because God does not take the counsel
of His saints...
We are all supposed to pray for each other.
We can ask others to pray for us. This is
the 'communion of saints'.
Praying for each other -
Jer 15:1, Acts 12:5, Rom 15:30, 2 Cor 13:7,
Eph 6:18, Col 4:3, 1 Thess 5:25, 2 Thess 3:1,
Heb 13:18, Jas 5:16
Intercession of Saints
Tob 12:12, 2 Mac 15:14 and Rev 5:8, 8:4
I LIKE REV 5:8 and 8:5 - Major intercession from the saints!
We are surrounded by saints - Heb 12:1
Saints now in Heaven
1 Thess 3:13, Heb 11:40, Heb 12:23, 1 Pet 3:19, Rev 6:9
Miracles through relics
[edit on 11/19/2004 by FlyersFan]