Something strange is happening on ATS

I also noticed that years and years ago many ATS threads were amazingly well made by the OP's... well written, illustrations and videos included were applicable...

Now most tend to be someone's opinions/thoughts about something with no sources, or very crappy sources (e.g badly made youtube video)... or the now standard... someone posts a 1hr+ video about something and doesnt really explain what their point is...

But I agree that there is a lot of agents on here now... some are paid, some will not... the ones that are not paid most likely ended up on ATS after googling something relating to conspirancies and now inhabit ATS to discredit others with what can only be called fault logic.

I dont write a lot on here because so many really love to start arguing about the most irrelevant things while completely missing the point... at times is like being sat with someone like Hannity or O'Reilly who put words in your mouth and interpret your point in a way that benefits their agendas.

Im pretty sure all of the internet is watched by other computers, and Fusion centers, NSA, etc.... And Im sure ATS is probably up there on sites they monitor.

A fusion center is an effective and efficient mechanism to exchange information and intelligence, maximize resources, streamline operations, and improve the ability to fight crime and terrorism by merging data from a variety of sources. In addition, fusion centers are a conduit for implementing portions of the National Criminal Intelligence Sharing Plan(NCISP).

I guess thats there way of stepping around your rights and, that the Government can and will gathering and exchange intelligenece and information, to improve the ability to fight crime and terrorism, So pretty much they are watching everything, And if they deam you a threat, or think your doing criminal activity, see ya. Getting creepy, Freedom of speech, sure, you can say whatever you want, until the powers at be, see otherwise

www.aclu.org...

There are disinfo agents posting on this forum... ATS, they post stuff to suggest things to our mind, conscience, we open it and dismiss it most of the time... well i do.

It is easy to find them, they post something and are close minded, or never reply to the thread afterward... Or they do no english errors, because they are professional writters, this is why for once i do tons of errors and second because english not my first language and third i do errors on purpose so fbi, cia, etc scanner cant interpret what i am saying unless someone actually go there and try to read it... they just look for pattern oh this guy talk with someone from iraq once a week, the scanners looks for such things... oups sidetracked...

reply to post by Taupin Desciple


Very smart post, that explains more in human terms than anything else Ive read so far. Understand that this is how I gain perspective...by being a wise ass. Yet as I stated before its for a good cause. My intent is not to troll, yet rather to provoke a real response void of the petty subtitles most people bring into grey areas such as this.

Excellent post with outstanding insight.

BTW I'm really not trying to be difficult, but I have experience in a great many things considered unconventional that most would find hard to grasp. Yet you seem to be pretty on the ball.....good on ya mate.

Thank you for your excellent response. You hit the nail on the head.

And yes I am a man, the pic?...never met her before in my life...i did like your contribution though

Originally posted by eagleeye2
reply to post by nuttin4nothin

 

Soo true.
I personally think the culprit is facebook and stuff like that. Its possible that ATS is being a victim of its popularity.
I've been around since 06' and this board was crowded will great, insightful mind. If you had nothing to bring to the table, you just didnt post at this time. The community was smaller, too.
Now, just a few of them had the resilience to stay, unfortunately. /sigh
And meanwhile we get 10 threads a day that pretend we are getting invaded by socialist.

edit on 17-6-2012 by eagleeye2 because: (no reason given)

The big picture is that the very atmosphere is being turned into the likes of that inside of a casino. If you take money from your pocket, to count it, you can be sure someone else just counted it as well. Anytime, anywhere, so long as you're outdoors, or near a window.

You're talking of the Golden Age, here, when impulses were somewhat governed, when awesome wireless devices were less common, and thought provoking subjects were just that: thought provoking subjects. There wasn't any tweeting or other forms of electronic drool going on. You could watch it literally unfold, the degradation of concentration, and content, in lockstep to the ease of ability to get on line and interact, so to speak.

Add to the mix the fact that Charles Manson owns the world media, and is still bent on diversionary race war tactics (you saw the color wheel spin as soon as the media paraded obama in our face), in order to clean up after the fighting, and dominate the world, just like when he was a young shirtless DJ, back in the hills. I am not speaking figuratively.

My God....if you think ats is the only place affected, then I suggest you observe craigslist. Racist bots working overtime, and the management seems powerless to filter them out. Remember....Charles (Manson) is very much In Charge, and he wants us to fight each other. So much for thought provoking topics. If I even visualize the lavender hues of craigslist, now, I go almost dumb.

I erase a lot of my unsent words, lately, and not just here. It's important to have a good reason to speak, before speaking, so that your words carry some value in passing. Otherwise, it's just a room full of people who like to hear the sound of their own voices. I could have had silence, maybe heard something new, but instead I laid out 200 posts today... Well, if that means I incurred no opportunity costs by doing so, it can mean one of two things. If there's one thing I learned in Nam

Do you see that this trend is not just here on ATS but the policies & suggestions & attempts etc by governing bodies worldwide?

the strangulation effect of governments & bodies over the general public is on fast forward.

something is definitely up everywhere

Dearest Citizens of Earth,

Well.
The only way to go from being a Type 0 civilization to a Type 1 civilization is to become a Globally United.

Am I wrong?

So...are TPTB really working against humanity...or working towards a more advanced civilization?

Yours Truly,
The Devils Advocate

Those topics are always floating around ATS. They don't interest me so I don't bother to look.

I'd noticed this too.

Well one for doing the work and articulating it well.

Watching with interest...

I agree with FissionSurplus as far as not reading those threads. I just pass them by unless I am really bored.

I don't think there is a concerted effort here to sway opinion, but it would not surprise me if there were either. I would be surprised if we were not able to distinguish the infiltrators from true ats'ers though. I realize I don't seem to be a true ATS'er because of my spelling, grammar and sentence structure, but my posts fall along the same lines as most people who want less government control and more personal freedom.

I think these threads may be coming from a group of disgruntled college kids even if they only went to college to collect the loan money. They learned enough to sound intelligent and act retarded. Nothing new. They may be tired of having to do research to find the truth and just want the government to do it for them since that is their go-to move in life.

They have not witnessed the bad side of a government out of control yet. Even baby boomers have forgotten because it has been relatively calm for 50 plus years here. My point is that there are plenty of dumb people out there that need guidance young and old. They may not understand anything you say or want to hear it, but over time it will sink in so go ahead and tell them the truth.

Ahhhhhh, to be ignorant once more would be such sweet bliss.

reply to post by darkbake


I only agree with population control. This is a serious issue and must be dealt with soon. we can not sustain this many people.

Trends towards fascism and violence are a natural outcome with the state of the world, or what we perceive to be the state of the world, everything is faster these days that goes for reactions as we. We are human after all, we are born liars who naturally cheat and discriminate. The threads don't really seem unusual.

Okay, overpopulation is a MAJOR issue. It's not a question of whether we can house all of the degenerates we're bringing into the world, it's a question of whether we have the right to destroy our planet. Life is life, and should be honored. This includes the lives of animals who we are driving to extinction through habitat destruction. Depopulation doesn't mean we have to kill everyone, but rather moderate how many people we bring into the world. Cut the feel-good BS, humanity is a scourge upon this planet; the less of us there are the better, we do more harm than good.

In my opinion it's a trend that has been happening as popularity of the site increases year after year, kids out of school have never been a noticeable problem in previous years so even if there are groups of bored students the spike in communication is in my opinion negligible to consider that group having a significant impact. I have taken long breaks from this site as sometimes the content seemed so diluted it wasn't even worth visiting the site and also with moderators deleting perfectly fine discussions but were somehow deemed not appropriate.

Before the internet everyone had to read newspapers listen to radio or watch news which was very easily controlled and packaged for mass consumption. With the internet those old forms of information are becoming redundant and the media and it's handlers are probably shell shocked in that their prescribed doses and predictability of informing can be shattered with a few keystrokes.

I remember watching that video of Hilary Clinton stating along the lines "we are losing the information war" the elite see it as war alright, a war against them. It would be pretty foolish to think that the ruling class is not actively seeking ways to control and undermine the internet and stomp out free thinking.

reply to post by randomname


Actually most paid shills and internet "disinformants" are just college students that stumble across it as a way to help pay the bills. The professionals run the show, they don't have any direct involvement at "ground level," I believe. It's easier to have some college student with a binder full of "talking points" getting paid to muddy the water. It's alot easier to deny when those with real Psyops experience don't have their hands on it, they just manage it. To put it into perspective, notice how whenever the Israel/Palestine issue comes back under the spotlight, there are always a whole bunch of new members who come and pretty much just character-assassinate anyone who criticizes the actions of the Israeli power structure. Then, when they are cut down every which way by people that actually do know what they're talking about (there are a few of us left), they pretty much just disappear from ATS. Coincidence? I don't believe in coincidence. Too convenient if you ask me.

i have a question about the really above top secret fourm, how come i just get 404? some kind of long running joke?

reply to post by darkbake


Because people are tired of BS money makers and liars and it seems depopulation and war will solve some of these topics so much lied about.,