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Originally posted by Reheat
reply to post by maxella1
Here ya go! It wasn't a Jet Blue, but Air Floria (minor details).
www.history.com...
If you're saying that the war in Iraq was more than a simple "whoops, my bad" and it was a conscious attempt to promote military action, then I would say that yes, the possibility exists, but it's more likely that outside forces (I.E. anti-Hussein protestors in exile from Iraq) used the US and its dumb-as-a-brick president by feeding it the bad information that instigated the invasion.
If it was an operation organized by the gov't we would have almost certainly planted whatever evidence of weapons of mass destruction (nerve gas, nuclear weapons, copies of the Star Wars Christmas special, whatever) they would need to justify the invasion. Not only was no WMD found...but they ADMITTED no WMD was found...which tells me the gov't wasn't responsible. It's only the child stealing cookies from the cookie jar who needs to invent an excuse for why they're not the ones stealing cookies.
I'm all for wondering if there's more to the story than what I've been told. In fact I'd even entertain the idea that Mohammed Atta was innocent and there was some other hijacker aboard the plane and Atta was singled out because he came from Saudi Arabia. It's the outrageous accusations of "lasers from outer space" and "hologram planes" that I find disdainful. This isn't an attempt to find the truth. It's an attempt to bring the theorists' individual abject paranoia into the mix. Doesn't it strike you as odd that between all the accusations against the gov't, the Jewish World Order, the Masons, etc etc etc, the only ones that seem to be completely blameless here is Bin Laden and Al Qaida?
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Here's why I doubt the official story.
The OS is simple. A small group of men made it through the entire U.S. air defense and attacked major landmarks.
In response, the U.S. launched two major wars.
The two major wars would not prevent another small group of men from performing another similar terrorist attack.
There is a logic fallacy somewhere.
9/11 happened through pure U.S. incompetence. Something just doesn't seem right about the whole OS.edit on 17-6-2012 by UltimateSkeptic1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by waypastvne
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Something just doesn't seem right
This is your evidence ?
Evidence is not required to have doubts.
Didn't your ever doubt somebody was telling the truth even though you had no evidence?
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
A small group of men made it through the entire U.S. air defense and attacked major landmarks.
There's your problem right there.
You seem to think we have air defences for internal planes. We do not.
The location of the president does.
Area 51 likely does.
Originally posted by Classified Info
9/11 happened through pure U.S. incompetence.
I can go along with that. I also believe 19 hijackers hijacked some planes and crashed them into three buildings. I do not believe in any sort of "inside job" conspiracy theory.
Yes, pure incompetence was at work here.
Originally posted by plube
reply to post by Reheat
Right and this is from Randi Forums....awesome research....fantastic...I will run right over to Randi's forums..and sign up.....OH right i am already a member there....on the most OS biased website out there.....that is the most reliable source a person could ever quote.
Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by phishyblankwaters
Think about that before I respond. Ok. Thought about it. The FBI alone damn near spent the same amount of money investigating 9/11 as was spent looking into Monica/Whitewater. That doesn't include the actual Commission, the CIA, NSA, NYPD, PAPD, NIST etc....
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by SimontheMagusI can hardly wait for the OS troops to respond.....
I'm not an OS troop, but those are NOT Wall Street articles. They are press releases from truther organizations.
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by maxella1The pentagon had drills with the same scenario of civilian jets used as weapons and crash into the pentagon and WTC two years before 9/11.
I would like to see a reference on this. The only "drills" I am familiar with are those associated with crashes (not "civilian jets used as weapons"). As a matter of fact, one of the firefighters from the Pentagon was in training for such a crash when the plane hit the Pentagon. They did a lot planning at the Pentagon for this sort of thing because of the proximity of Reagan National. Especially after the Jet Blue crash in 1982 which came pretty darn close. I would imagine that the WTC had similar drills and exercises due to their height.edit on 18-6-2012 by 911files because: (no reason given)edit on 18-6-2012 by 911files because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by kidtwist
You do not begin to understand terrorism. Attacking a military base or a government building does not get near the reaction that attacking a civilan target gets.
Originally posted by kidtwistt appears you do not know enough about 9/11 to know that the term 'truther' is a deliberate term created by the people who did 9/11! It's fictional.
What did you actually think a 'truther' was?!
Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by kidtwist
Umm, no, they didnt want to admit there was a lot of incompetence that day. Thats why they fought so hard against having a Commission in the first place. For crying out loud, it wasnt until several years afterwards that we found out the "state of the art" communications systems on Air Force One, were SOOOO great that the President was out of contact half of the time he was flying around. They landed in Omaha, so he could have reliable frigging comm lines with his staff.
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by kidtwistt appears you do not know enough about 9/11 to know that the term 'truther' is a deliberate term created by the people who did 9/11! It's fictional.
What did you actually think a 'truther' was?!
Oh, so now those of us started independent research into the events of 9/11 all those years ago are those who did 9/11
Seek help, really.
Originally posted by kidtwist
Why are you even on a 9/11 forum and you do not even understand what 'truther' means! I know this is embarrassing for you but be dignified and hold your hands like a man when you make a mistake!
I can tell by your comments that you view those that do not believe the OS as 'truthers', you have stated this already in this thread, you have called people 'truthers' whilst upholding the OS.
The real people seeking the truth are genuine researchers, who are not truthers, do not call themselves such, and never will call themselves such, because the term 'truther' as all 9/11 researchers know, is a ficticious term created by the American government to stereotype and ridicule anyone who does not follow their fairytale OS story.
There are many 'truther' sites set up deliberately by the perps to discredit people seeking the 'real' truth, and there is cointelpro all over the internet trying to suppress the real truth behind 9/11, and using the 'term' truther against people who disbelieve the OS is a common tactic by cointelpro people.
So perhaps do some proper research, and check out your own health before you start firing that rubbish out of your qwerty gun.