Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his Daughter: (Stand Your Ground will win-again)

Originally posted by lapi7

Originally posted by mwood
What I expect to see soon on here:

"They guy should have just punched him till he was unconscious then call the police, the guy is a murderer"

I say the father was ENTIRELY within his right and did the right thing. I just hope two things......

1. he gets no punishment
2. He didn't bust his hand up too much.

If the perpetrator had been black the father would have been arrested IMMEDIATELY for committing a "hate crime" murder !!!

That is a dumb comment. You act as if there is no such thing as a hate crime. You are also off topic.

Originally posted by Devilyouknow2
reply to post by Miccey

 

LOL, then volunteer your kids for the next abusers............ Jackass

Like i said stupid blablabla.....

Did you READ the post i made...
No i didnt think so...

Do you honestly think i would be mercyful
if i found out someone HAD or DID molest my
kid...??? REALLY?!?!?

Do i automagicaly have the RIGHT to kill
someone if i THINK they did....?!!?!?!?

Asshat...

reply to post by hesse


That's a gross response! Anyone; no matter of race etc, who commits a crime against a child is forfeit!

reply to post by Miccey
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LOL, slack parents make child victims.......... Good on you

reply to post by Devilyouknow2


Thats what I meant--- What does race have to do with it? Or do you mean the other guys comment? lol

reply to post by hesse


Im with you, race would never have anything to do with it

reply to post by dubiousone


The incident occurred on Saturday, and was reported nationally on Monday. It is reasonable to believe
they have at least decided whether a molestation occurred. The Sheriff seemed pretty confident in his
statements to the press. I'll side with the Sheriff for now.

Pedophilia, like all sexual deviance, is not to be blamed; I don't think pedophiles choose to be pedophiles, their biological drives just naturally attract them to children. To say that a person deserves to die because he/she is out of step with society's values is barbaric and backwards.

In Rome they would feel Christians to lions as a form of entertainment. I'd like to think we'd moved beyond that by now, but I guess not considering how many people are justifying this man's death. Pedophilia seems to be a more or less natural occurrence within humans considering it's been with us since the dawn of man; modern societies tend to reject it and refuse to try and understand it.

I'm not saying the father is in the wrong, for he has every right to protect his daughter from sexual assault and I can't say that I would react differently if I found someone sexually assaulting my child, but understand that people do not choose who or what they are attracted to and just because extreme sexual deviance is rejected by society does not make it inherently wrong. If something is naturally occurring within a species, it probably serves a purpose.

I have to agree. The father was well within his rights to defend his daughter. The hospital and those professionals that know how to discuss these matters with children should be able to verify the claims of abuse. As long as those items fit, this man should be hailed as a hero.

I've heard so many stories where parents either ignore or aid child abuse, that despite the horrifying abuse that apparently took place, it's good to hear that this father is a REAL father...that young lady will know until the end of her life that her dad was her champion and that should help her to get past this.

As far as the chemical castration that was brought up in the op, that should be an option for some of these monsters, but I tend to believe that as long as they have any moveable appendages, they will attemp to abuse someone. While the abuse obviously has a sexual component, so much of any type of abuse is about gratification thru the subjugation of others.

my grandaughter is that age... if anybody touched a hair on her head i'd personally happily castrate them myself. no question whatsoever.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


I can understand what you are trying to say, that these people have some reason in their brains or genetic makeup that causes them to be attracted to children. That would be a terrible affliction to suffer from, but at that point it is up to the will and self control of that pedophile. We are not animals, so these monsters should stop themselves from abusing. Take yourself to a hospital for mental treatment, go live in a cave away from society, and never put yourself in a position to abuse someone. Unless you are mentally incompetent you have a duty to control your impulses.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


Pedophiles may not choose to be pedophiles, as you say, but they do have the ability to make choices. If an alcoholic chooses not to drink, they are still an alcoholic. They make the right choice for them and don't drink. Pedophiles have the same option. They serve no purpose to the human race, other than to defile and traumatize the innocents they prey upon.

Then again, maybe they are on earth for a reason... TARGET PRACTICE!!!

Good on you dad.He reacted the way any normal father would do. This man should receive some sort of public award. A medal perhaps.

reply to post by retiredTxn


I'll be honest, I don't understand it; when I look at a child, I don't feel any inkling of sexual attraction. In the same sense, when I look at animals or corpses, I don't feel sexual arousal, but I understand that there are people who do. Sexuality is a very powerful drive in most people; it's very hard to shut off.

For example, let's say, for the sake of argument, that we lived in a society which declared it sick and disgusting for men and women to have sex, and thus heterosexuality became outlawed. Being a heterosexual in such a society would be absolute torture, and I doubt most heterosexuals would be able to abstain for their entire lives in order to escape persecution.

What I will say is that pedophilia is rape because a child cannot, under any circumstance, consent to sex. This is my biggest problem with it. If there was no victim in pedophilia, I could really care less about it, but children who are raped or sexually assaulted tend to bear emotional scars for the rest of their lives. It's wrong to do that to any person.

In Germany the father would be in jail for that. So I really respect the sheriffs decision.

reply to post by retiredTxn


I tend to agree with this statement. Addiction/trait/condition or otherwise, choice is always present. Easier said than done, perhaps. Much like the father had a choice to kill,mame or turn over to cops.

I feel the fathers choice was the natural defence choice as a parent seeing their child in distress, Emotion was the driver here.

Not saying murder is a good thing, far from it.

In the same circumstance as that father, I would more than likely do the same thing....... maybe worse, much much worse.

Speaking as a survivor of longer term sexual abuse, as a parent and speaking only for myself....I say, that this isn't the way. Its a tragedy compounded. I don't know the best way or right way..I just know in my gut this isn't it
and know that celebrating the murder of any one..whatever the reason, isn't 'right' 'good' or 'just'.

Yes..at times..too many times..I've wanted my abusers dead..Ive gone through living hell for the absence of legal and social justice..but having come out the other side of that..I know also, that I am deeply grateful today that no one did do this type of thing "for me" and that I didn't kill them myself.

I know 'for sure' that I couldn't have worked through the grief and affects of abuse, let alone borne the weight on my conscience, if they or I had. It would have made recovery (mine) impossible.

As an awake and aware person I know that justice and law are often two separate things. Here though, I feel neither has been served and now..can't ever be.

I agree with a poster above..that affording all offenders of any kind the right to due process is the only way to avoid chaos and outright devolution...and personally..I feel if I don't stand up for that right to due process for the worst amongst us..I can't be anything but a hypocrite if I demand that right for myself.



quietly...

Ro.

I applaud the action on part of the father, i even applaud the reaction of the Sherriff. It could simply be that the father did not intend to kill the offender, merely beat the living snot out of him....and it just so happens he died from his injury.

If the father had actually intended to kill the man, I believe he would have been more straight forward with his attack. But seeing as how its bare knuckle shuffle, you couldn't prove otherwise in a court of law. hence...he gets off light. Intent leads to motive...and if the father did not intend to kill him....he had no motive to outright kill him. legally speaking of course.

illegally speaking, I would have brought him back to life, so I could kill him again.

We need more stories like this, maybe then sick people will stop #@!*in around with the innocent.

I hope they throw this father a parade.

reply to post by Midnight4444


I agree with you, except in that we are animals; our brains may be the most advanced on our planet, but we are still flesh and bone and we are still subject to our biological drives. Most people cannot go their entire lives without sex. This is not so much a matter of self control but a necessity to spread one's genes, as all life is designed to do.

Does it call for people who suffer from extreme sexual deviance to isolate themselves from society? Perhaps, but who is really going to subject him or herself to that. People are inherently selfish creatures, they don't care much for what other people want.

I would suggest that if we as a collective society don't like a behavior, we peacefully reject it and exile those who engage in it. To call for the castration and death of people who exhibit said behavior, however, is wrong.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


What you speak of is more compulsion rather than a imbalance chemically in the brain. Most pedos were molested themselves and it is more likely that an active pedo acting out his compulsion thinks the behavior is normal due to being victems themselves.

That doesnt make it right however as most victems of sexual assualt in any form do not act out this behavior. instead the victem has a lifetime of sexual dysfunction due to the trauma they experienced.

Though it is this dysfunction that leads to the complulsion to attack others sexually.

The act and role of victem and attacker is a close relationship believe it or not, and the distinction between the two is as easy as flipping a switch due to that recurring dysfunction intially experienced.

Most sex assault victems (especially at a younger age) develop permiscuity, drug habits, emotional disorders, relationship dysfunction, PTSD if severe enough, and other lifetime negative effects from that one action of a sick individual.