Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his Daughter: (Stand Your Ground will win-again)

Originally posted by one_small_step
reply to post by retiredTxn

 

I tend to agree with this statement. Addiction/trait/condition or otherwise, choice is always present. Easier said than done, perhaps. Much like the father had a choice to kill,mame or turn over to cops.

I feel the fathers choice was the natural defence choice as a parent seeing their child in distress, Emotion was the driver here.

Not saying murder is a good thing, far from it.

In the same circumstance as that father, I would more than likely do the same thing....... maybe worse, much much worse.

Even those that say they wouldn't kill a person, do not really know how they would react. I spent 21 years dealing with these creeps that some want locked away, but do not want them harmed because it would not be humane. My money goes to house, feed, and give "treatment" to these poor souls who were born this way. Only to be released and turned loose on society.

Yeah, call me hard hearted, but I feel we waste too much money trying to look and act civilized. The US has the largest per capita prison system in the world. How civilized is that? This father did his personal and civic duty. He protected his family, and saved the state of Texas some bucks.

Good! One less piece of filth in this world..oh and for all the hand wringing pc brigade,I`d personally round up every paedo out there,and exterminate and bury everyone these vermin!

The thing is, our gut reaction is, "yeah! Eff that sick bastard!" However our emotions prevent us from thinking.. what if the guy that killed him lost his temper over something else, killed the guy and then creayed the story? Then the father gets away with murder and the alleged molester loses his life, reputation, and justice.

I mean if he was guilty then too bad for him he got punished and I wouldn't blame the dad at all.. but do we know really?

reply to post by radpetey


Pedo-fillet - that didnt half make me laugh out loud!!

Agreed with everyone in this thread, the world is now one-paedo less!

reply to post by anon72


Dear Anon72,
I really don't know what to say to this.. totally outraged someone would be sexually abusing anyone, let alone a 4 year old. I think the abuser got what he deserved.. Some would say he deserves a fair trial, and not having one sets a precedent etc..

Crime of passion as far as I am concerned. The law decided the punishment, fair play.

T

Originally posted by GrandHeretic
What you speak of is more compulsion rather than a imbalance chemically in the brain. Most pedos were molested themselves and it is more likely that an active pedo acting out his compulsion thinks the behavior is normal due to being victems themselves.

No, they just claim to have been molested but there is no substantive proof. Given as that the stats are that the majority of paedophiles are male who target and victimise female children, the perpetrator as victim plea for clemency seems somewhat illogical.

It seems the stock defence, 'I did not do anything wrong and I know I did nothing wrong because it was done to me and it did me no harm, now feel sorry for me', seeks to divert empathy from victim to perpetrator. If those that prey on children can create a large enough lobby to support their claims that their compulsions are, for them and within their paradigms, 'normal' and should be understood and treated rather than punished, their attempts at neuro linguistically reprogramming (society) into accepting their behaviour and downgrading the suffering of the victims, will continue to erode justice.

reply to post by anon72


This is a very divisive topic for discussion.

In no way do i believe in sanctioning individuals to hand out on the spot death penalties for anything.

If i were that father i may well have done the same and would hope for mercy thereafter. However, he should stand trial and hopefully a court will find him acting with diminished responsibility and weigh the act of repeated blows to the deceased's head against the characters of all involved and their own conscience.

If people feel they can doll out the punishment without it being scrutinised afterwards it's a short leap to kangaroo courts and vigilantes acting out of self-interest and questionable, narrow-minded beliefs

reply to post by anon72


Unless i've missed something, was the child on her own in the house with the abuser ? If so, why ? The abuser was barely acquainted with the childs father.

Who leaves a four year old on their own, even in the house ? More facts to come out, I suspect...

All I can say is I have 2 girls and if I found anyone molesting them, then that thing's (they gave up their right to be called human when they decided to do this unmentionable act) death would be extremely slow and agonizing no matter what the out come would be to me, just so long as I believed justice was done and another "thing" was removed from harming other innocents.

I have no time for these things that look like every day humans and shed no sympathy for them and would be willing to look it in the eyes and pull the trigger, (and I would normally only kill for food) But I also have no sympathy for anyone who would kill and use a child as an excuse for doing it and then the law should take its lot.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
IF he was attacking a *anyone*, good-riddance. The problem is we have a two-men-can-keep-a-secret-if-one-of-them-are-dead scenario here. Let's hope there is some kind of investigation. I'd hate to think we can just start killing anyone we invite over to the house now, if all that is required to get away with it is an accusation like this....

Amen! I'm with you on this one. If the sequence of events is all true, then fine....the attacker got justice.

But how many times do we read early news reports of a crime only to find out that it was not exactly correct?

No place did I ever read "allegedly" in any of the news reports...which led me to believe there were witnesses.

So, if you get into a terrible fight with another person in your own home and end up where the visitor dies....as long as you have a 4 years old daughter, you might be able to get away with it.

Investigate...investigate....investigate

reply to post by anon72


My brain froze on the first line as I pondered how does a father kill a man sexually.

Until the FACTS are actually out on this post, this post IS irrelevant.

What if this alleged paedophile was not abusing his daughter, but was in fact just sleeping with this mans wife??

This post is as about as ridiculous as people screaming "Burn her! Burn her!" during the witchcraft trials of yore.

If this actually WAS the case, then I even with some reservation say that the guy got what he deserved.

However, justifying the use of "stand your ground" on this one "flimsy" piece of so called "evidence", compared to all the other "questionable" killings that have occured in the name of "stand your ground" is nothing short of pathetic in its reasoning!

OP stinks of desperation tbh, so my view on "stand your ground" still does not wash

Also having seen the video and read the report, it confirms that the man killed was actually beatenand strangled to death and not shot! The father was also remorseful as well. It also seems that the daughter was taken to hospital for trauma, so it also vouches to some extent the fact that she was perhaps being abused.

You can't justify a gun law based on one account, or one type of incident.

Sometimes I think that maybe if your government wanted to cull you, surely they would surely make it easy for those itchy trigger Americans to run amok with guns using any excuse under the sun, to justify killing anyone they didn't like, or had crossed them.

Inevitably with time you will end up taking each other out in one inglorious shoot-out, then where would your argument be? Dead and buried...

Originally posted by mwood
I say the father was ENTIRELY within his right and did the right thing. I just hope two things......

1. he gets no punishment
2. He didn't bust his hand up too much.

I disagree with your second point there, mwood. I hope he DID bust his hand up a bit. So that every stab of pain reminds him that he did what any father has the right to do, and that he has defended his daughter from a sick, disgusting man. The pain in his hand will be a badge of pride and a testament to his ability to do what every father should do; protect his family.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by anon72

 

HELL YEAH!!! Flagged and starred... This pervert deserved even worse than that, but the father was in the right to kill him.

EVERY man/woman who sexually abuses children should meet a similar end, so they can NEVER AGAIN sexually abuse any children...

Not individually singling you out, but the vigilante justice/torture stuff kind of scares me. We have more than enough evidence that strapping persons to horses or beating them to death doesn't really protect anyone particularly from my reading of our legal history anyway. We've also learnt many things from investigating why people go these ways in the first place (ie keeping them alive) ...

Not attacking anyone's right to defend their children, or saying the person in the news story should be punished strongly, but I worry sometimes we're a always only a few inches and a hate speech away from knee jerk reactions left right and centre. (Afghan / Iraq wars etc ...)

If true then good riddance, These people target and damage kids their whole lives without stopping, until someone stops them!

If the father serves one day in jail, that's one too much. Sexual predators, especially of children, need to be sent a strong message. Pedophiles disgust me beyond words. I am at a complete loss to understand how anyone could be sexually attracted to a child. The father did what was needed and should be done in every case, Kill Them All.

First.....I would do the same thing in this situation...

Second.....It takes a lot of beating to kill a man with your fists

Unless the father crushed this man's larynx, or caved his skull in with something....

...he beat that man for a long time...
...real life ain't like the movies

Originally posted by anon72

A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said. The father was casually acquainted with the alleged abuser, said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon.

The girl was left inside the family's house during the social gathering, while other members of her family were tending to horses, the sheriff said.

The man was pronounced dead on the scene

Asked whether they would press charges against the father, the sheriff responded, "You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person.

Source: www.cnn.com...

Well, what do you say/ we say as a Society to this type of activity which lead to additional activtiy by another person that resulted in the loss of life.

Well, for me. GOOD RIDDENCE you sick bas...d! One thing for sure. That sicko won't be preying on any other innocent vicitms. Regardless if this was the first or last one.

That is my whole issue- the pedo's have no fear of the law or punishment. Rather Not Enough to make them stop doing that sicko behavior.

So, solution. Let the families of the victims have first choice as to how to deal Justice..... If they can't or won't then the Gov't can finish it.

I am a strong supporter of Chemical Castration.... Go ahead, start bashing that....

Anyway, WAY TO GO DAD!!!

lol you're the kind of uneducated individual tha tbelives anything they read huh...

well just last week i read (and believe on good authority) .. that a 16 yr old girl falseley accused a 16 yr old kid of raping her.. guess what.. she made it up and he spent 5 yrs in prison..

just because you "heard" a story about some dude thinking another "dude" was molesting his "kid" at a "social gathering" ... gives him the right to smash his head in...

what if some MESSED UP 14 yr old zit faced punk made that up just to mess with the DAD and told him that's what was going on in the other room... then he goes and kills the kid..

mob mentality..

AND YOU'RE THE BRUNT OF IT. step off.. you could be next!


but if proven beyond all reasonable doubt... yes execute child molesters

If this story is as it appears to be, I support killing that mother#er 100% I'm so tired of people getting away with this kind of thing. If you molest a child, you should be terminated with extreme prejudice, and malice aforethought.