*Breaking News* Update From Baltic USO Exploration Team

reply to post by CigaretteMan


Nice thread, very interesting stuff.

I am inclined to be skeptical of any major find, not that I don't believe its possible but because I have gotten use to the disappointment of news like this over the years. The fact they are "waiting" to release more information only has me thinking its nothing groundbreaking or that it is and we will never know about it.

The wallpaper on their website I believe someone posted it coming from deviant art ?? I didn't look into it but that's an artists site and was most likely the artist who created it posted it there.

The most impressive thing I seen is the radar topography picture of the seabed ... very interesting.

BREAKING NEWS 2pm, The divers are now down and investigating the circle and reports from the ship say they are really amazed. There is definitely something unusual hiding at the seabed – a Mystery Beneath. More information and pictures will be released next week.

This sounds so hyped and fake... Why next week? It's not that hard to upload a few images. I wouldn't hold my breath for this one.

There is somewthing about the sea bed scan of the 'disc' cutting a path in the sea bed that does not ring scientifcaly true with me for some reason...
As posted by Chadwickus.. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Something does not sit right.. excuse the pun..

Let me try to explain..

How can a ciruclar, disc like object land in water and cause a trough like that? It does not make sense.
For it to have 'landed' and cause a cut in the sea bed like that, I suggest it did so before there was any water there..

Have you eveer skimmed a stone across the surface of water? The water repels the stones shape until momentum gives up and all energy spent and the stone sinks.. like a stone.. straight down ( a bit wobbly as it goes down, but it goes down)

The sea bed scan here shows us a shallow trough as though it ploughed into the sea bed at a very slight angle.. it's not a deep trough, nor is it that (apparently) long..

I think, if this was a flying object of some description, that it hit solid ground and skimmed across the ground, as a stone does on water, but it's momentum to 'skip' ran out as it hit the ground one last time and slid to a halt.

If I am right, it is impossible for this to happen in water.. I am trying desperately to find video or other evidence to support my idea.. any helpers, please feel free to sort this out ..

ETA stone skimming example vid

Spin stabilizes an object and keeps it from simply falling into the water. A minimum speed must be achieved or the stone will hit the water and sink immediately. Flat, round stones are best because the surface area creates a bounce on impact, but the “magic angle” between a spinning stone and the water should be about 20 degrees in order to achieve the maximum number of skips

www.loc.gov...

They should have kept their mouths shut about the whole thing, instead of generating rumors and such. If it ever was anything other worldly I hardly think we will ever find out.

They should have done all their investigating behind a shroud of silence and kept TPTB completely out of the picture. Then if it is a ufo, explode it on the scene before the military complex could scramble their resources. This media circus approach will only get them shut down if it turns out to be more than rocks or old Russian platforms.

Originally posted by Konduit
Watch this end up being a viral advertisement for Prometheus...

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Are we going to be stunned and find something never before seen....Sigh, I doubt it...

In all seriousness though, if anything spectacular was found like a crashed UFO or something that would challenge history according to modern science or religion we would never hear the truth about it. This is the world we live in folks.

edit on 8-6-2012 by Konduit because: (no reason given)

Yes and I like you would love it, religion has been given an easy ride for far too long, an alien race being here before would be a game changer.

We live in hope..

I imagine they're not telling us what it is because they themselves don't know yet. If i were them i would take my time and be as sure as i can of what i'm looking at before i had a news release. This story is pretty darn cool so far, it could be almost anything down there. I have to keep my imagination in check until they release something solid.

Here is the 'explorers' motive

A commercial opportunity out of the ordinary.

Ocean X Team has found a disc shaped object on the sea floor at 85 meters depth, but what is it?
Well, we do not know but your company should really not miss the chance of being highlighted in front of hundreds of millions TV-viewers when we found out.

We are also looking for investors who are interested in the object and can see the potential value.
For more information about investment please contact us.

www.oceanexplorer.se...


Whatever happened to that UFO in the great lakes? There was a 'legit' diving team, sonar and future press reports. What happened with that one?

This is most likely a hoax. Next they will be reporting lights, sounds and need more money to buy camera to take photo.

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by Konduit
Watch this end up being a viral advertisement for Prometheus...

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Are we going to be stunned and find something never before seen....Sigh, I doubt it...

In all seriousness though, if anything spectacular was found like a crashed UFO or something that would challenge history according to modern science or religion we would never hear the truth about it. This is the world we live in folks.

edit on 8-6-2012 by Konduit because: (no reason given)

Yes and I like you would love it, religion has been given an easy ride for far too long, an alien race being here before would be a game changer.

We live in hope..

People's hatred and ignorance for 'God' has left people hoping that anything will come from outerspace and 'change' religion leaves me shaking my head. Religion has never had a 'easy ride'. Sounds like you got something against that and are rooting for either satan or aliens.

They will not find an alien ship from outerspace. Some of you are so lost in life without out a clue that in between drinking, watching tv and and thinking that your are somewhat important against the other 6 billion drones out there is surely a classic form of something.

To add to my post above that I think this object hit the ground (or slid along the ground) before there was any water there we need to look at two things related to ballistics..

first, a bullet..

When the .50 caliber bullet was fired vertically downward, the critical distance for complete penetration was found to lie between 4 ft. and 5 ft. Firing at oblique angles of 45 to 60 degrees from the vertical position reduced the lethal bullet travel by approximately 1 ft. When the .30 caliber bullet was fired vertically downward, complete penetration was observed at 1 ft., but not at 2 ft. Based on these observations a person must be submerged at least 5 ft. to feel reasonably safe from .50 caliber machine gun fire and at least 2 ft. for .30 caliber machine gun fire.

www.loadammo.com...
so something travelling as fast as a bullet has very little chance of creating a trough at the bottom of an 180 foot deep sea.

Then the skipping stone idea..

Each time the stone skips the surface of the water it is reflected upwards, its downward velocity is reversed, and its horizontal velocity is reduced. Since the trailing edge of the stone typically breaches the water first, it is also pitched down slightly. This brief downward pitching affects the direction of the stone’s path. Each subsequent bounce slows it down until it penetrates the water surface rather than skipping over it. The height from which it is thrown, the angle, the impact attitude, and the condition of the water’s surface - all are additional factors that affect how many skips occur and how quickly the stone splashes down.

The principle of the conservation of momentum dictates that as the stone enters the water and pushes some of the water downwards, the stone is forced upwards. This force is equal to the hydrodynamic pressure on the stone multiplied by its area. Assuming that this force is balanced against the weight of the stone, then Mg, where M is its mass and g is the acceleration due to gravity, there is a minimum velocity - a few kilometers per hour - above which the stone will bounce. In other words, a stone has to have a minimum velocity in order to bounce. If its velocity is less than this value, the stone skims across the water for a short distance and then sinks.

www.loc.gov...

Therefore, I still think it arrived prior to the water being there.. If it was dragged their by glacial action then it is an odd shape.. and stranger still to have left a troughk, which must be bed rock to havenot een washed away by the water.. so glacial action most probable at this time IMO.. could be wrong.. just trying to think logically..

Even if it was flying when it landed, it is still possible for it to carve out the bed rock to make an everlasting trough.. depending on the material it is made from..

reply to post by Extralien

There is somewthing about the sea bed scan of the 'disc' cutting a path in the sea bed that does not ring scientifcaly true with me for some reason... As posted by Chadwickus.. www.abovetopsecret.com... Something does not sit right.. excuse the pun..

Chadwickus has a good point there....
but
What if the sea bed was dry land when a 'crash' occurred? I am just throwing it out there. If a UFO crashed thousands of years ago, and the sea levels were much lower then, we may see the remains of a gouge in what was dry land but sea bed now.

Then there are modern reports of 'USO's' that travel fast underwater. If something was traveling fast underwater and ran aground into the sea bed, it would create a gouge mark, would it not?
Just some ideas, it might just be a rock.

ETA:

Therefore, I still think it arrived prior to the water being there.. If it was dragged their by glacial action then it is an odd shape.. and stranger still to have left a troughk, which must be bed rock to havenot een washed away by the water.. so glacial action most probable at this time IMO.. could be wrong.. just trying to think logically..

You were posting that while I was typing mine.
Interesting idea about the glacier action!

reply to post by gortex


The Jerusalem UFO wasn't a "hoax" rofl.

There were six videos in total, 3 of which were faked and the other 3 which were real, precise duplicates of one another with exact same timing, just from different perspectives. The 3 hoaxed videos had off-timing and the videos themselves had been manipulated.

How about some factual information before casually throwing your precious hoax label around?

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by Konduit
Watch this end up being a viral advertisement for Prometheus...

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Are we going to be stunned and find something never before seen....Sigh, I doubt it...

In all seriousness though, if anything spectacular was found like a crashed UFO or something that would challenge history according to modern science or religion we would never hear the truth about it. This is the world we live in folks.

edit on 8-6-2012 by Konduit because: (no reason given)

Yes and I like you would love it, religion has been given an easy ride for far too long, an alien race being here before would be a game changer.

We live in hope..

People's hatred and ignorance for 'God' has left people hoping that anything will come from outerspace and 'change' religion leaves me shaking my head. Religion has never had a 'easy ride'. Sounds like you got something against that and are rooting for either satan or aliens.

They will not find an alien ship from outerspace. Some of you are so lost in life without out a clue that in between drinking, watching tv and and thinking that your are somewhat important against the other 6 billion drones out there is surely a classic form of something.

Your post is honestly one of the most accurate and most heart felt posts i have ever read on here. I feel this way cause your statement totally relates to myself and the way i have been feeling about myself after reading all the threads and post here on ATS and seeing how most of the other members act here (like me sometimes). So i thank you for this post.

Back to topic................

I have subscribed to this thread and wait for further updates but i really dont see anything happening from this due to if they find "something" it'll be covered up. If they find "nothing" then it'll disregarded instantly. Like the Russian explorers in Antartica which seems to have been disregarded aswell due to it being winter now and nothing has been found apart from underground lakes but if something IS there its be fully covered up anyway.

reply to post by Extralien


It could have landed before there was any water there, or, it came at such a high rate of speed that it made that trough happen. You seem to forget, if it is a "USO" reportedly they can move in and out of water without even making waves or splashes, suggesting that they have some sort of either force field around their craft, or that they can create a sort of vortex in front and behind of the craft, bending space itself (using electro gravitics of some sort) and thereby distorting the water, or kind of sucking the water around the craft such that the water will not be repelling the craft at all.

This is obviously speculation, based on testimony from UFO/USO witnesses... but,

It would be almost like flying through air, although more than likely still slower because that much distortion of the surrounding water at a high rate of speed could probably be potentially damning to the craft. However sailors etc. have seen these things shooting in and out of the water without creating a splash, so the mystery is a great one. That is to say, if this is a saucer and not an ancient structure. And if it is an ancient structure it could still either be a) man made, remains of something or b) alien/off world in origin. I have no idea what that thing is personally and cannot wait for an update. Hopefully something astounding!

reply to post by IMSAM


And why do you feel the need to be the ATS police , there are Forum Mods for that so do you feel the need to do there job for them ? WHo really gives a sh^% anyway bit%^ just to bi^& ,nothing better to do i guess?

I took the liberty of emailing them to try and get more info, below is the response i received, seems pretty standard.

Hi David, Thank you for your engagement in Ocean X Team! The divers are now down and investigating the circle and reports from the ship say they are really amazed and there is definitely something unusual hiding at the seabed. During next week we will give more information and pictures. Best regards, Josephine

Very unlikely this story would be released without consent from powers above, especially with mainstream media interest.

This could be part of a 'drip drip' of information etc to key it up for a project blue beam or real encounter - paving way for NWO - thoughts?

Could be nothing, but why would it get media attention (think it was on RTnews). Media would only have genuine interest once the images where confirmed/ denied.

Does anyone on here truly believe they will find anything worthy of note? Stuff like this is always too good to be true. Keeping my fingers crossed of course but even if they did find anything do you think it will truly be released to us.

If I was doing a dive like this I would take time to study the results of the dives and the pictures before I just splurged them up on the net.

I will give them till next week to see what they post.


/my two cents

problem,unless the divers report it is a UFO, then an awfull lot of people will simply refuse to believe the official story
if the divers report its a rock/metoer/volcano whatever, how many on here will actually believe them?
i can garuntee there will be threads detailing everything about the cover-up of the baltic sea ufo for years
me personally,im hoping its something like a ship, but im putting my money on it being a rock moved there by a glacier, seams to most plausable terrestrial explanation
fingers crossedtho

reply to post by Extralien


If it was actually flying then struck the water like a skipping stone then I could see where you are coming from. But then it would depend on the shape of the object. Like the Titanic for instance didn`t sink straight down.

But lets say it was travelling faster then our best sub underwater. Would a sub leave a impact trough?
I`m betting yes it would.