5 Million Farmers Sue Monsanto for $7.7 Billion

Originally posted by votan
out of all the topics in the world MONSANTO MAKES ME RAGE LIKE HORMONAL 13YR OLD.

can you not get monsanto ons some eco contamination deal.. i mean their sort of are with all of their bio engineering

edit on 6-6-2012 by votan because: (no reason given)

On your side but your Avatar looks like a hormonal youth lol
You can not get the un touchable's.
That is the United States Government today.
They are so bold and cocky it will be like Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin all over again. Do you think the sheeple will wake up before the knock on the door?

Originally posted by frazzle
Meanwhile, here in the good old US of A ...

"U.S. District Court Judge Naomi Buchwald recently dismissed the case, Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association et al. vs. Monsanto, ...

I'd vaguely heard of that one myself, and a quick search shows a number of threads on the topic here on ATS.

But what are the FACTS behind this ruling?

Once again, let me state I'm no fan of Monsanto (or any other large powerful multinational), but I am a huge fan of knowing what the facts and reality is behind any situation, rather than the spin that both sides put on a case.

So... HERE is the whole text of the ruling by the Judge.

After reading it, the Organic Seed Growers were always going to lose.
They were asking the court to rule about something that might possibly happen oneday in the future, maybe.

No, the legal system doesnt work that way.

Plaintiffs have not alleged that any of them have actually grown or sold contaminated seed...
At most they allege that they “could . . . be accused of patent infringement in the near future if and when they become contaminated by Monsanto’s transgenic seed.”
This is the same sort of intangible worry, unanchored in time, that the Federal Circuit has found “insufficient to support an ‘actual or imminent’ injury for standing without any specification of when the some day will be.”

Like Monsanto or not, those are the facts.

Originally posted by frazzle
Meanwhile, here in the good old US of A ...

"U.S. District Court Judge Naomi Buchwald recently dismissed the case, Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association et al. vs. Monsanto, claiming that it attempts to "create a controversy where none exists" (www.naturalnews.com...)."

And might I add while I'm on the topic of facts, that naturalnews has lied again.

Ethan Huff (naturalnews) writes...

In the past, when Monsanto's genetically-modified (GM) seeds have contaminated non-GM and organic farms, the agri-giant has sued those farmers whose fields were contaminated on the grounds that they violated patent restrictions -- and in some cases, Monsanto actually won these lawsuits.

Is this true? Did Monsanto really win lawsuits against organic farmers whose fields were accidentally contaminated?

Fact - its a lie. Never happened. The organic farmers raised this fear in court, and the judge examined it...

Defendants, moreover, have never filed a patent infringement suit against a certified organic farm or handling operation over the presence of patented traits in its operations...

legends that couldnt be backed up...

Nevertheless, plaintiffs allege without specification that defendants have accused certain non-intentional users of Monsanto’s seed of patent infringement and threatened them with litigation.
No plaintiffs claim to have been so threatened.

And its a bit fraudulent of organic farmers to say such a thing has happened and not be able to give any convincing example...

Moreover, there is no suggestion that these suits were brought against “similarly situated parties.”
While plaintiffs have alleged that defendants have pursued patent litigation “against other farmers who did not want to be contaminated by transgenic seed,” that claim is belied by the decisions in the suits against the referenced individuals.

Ethan Huff (naturalnews) doesnt care.
Not about facts, anyway.

Originally posted by alfa1

Like Monsanto or not, those are the facts.

Agricultural Giant Battles Small Farmers - CBS News
www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-4048288.html

Jan 4, 2011 ... CBS News Chief Investigative Correspondent Armen Keteyian has been ... Monsanto sued him claiming he was "aiding and abetting" farmers, ...

Farmers Fail At Suing Monsanto Before Monsanto Sues Them - The ...
consumerist.com/2012/02/judge-dismisses-lawsuit-to-preempt-monsanto-from-filing-suit...

Feb 27, 2012 ... In her dismissal of the case, the U.S. District Court Judge explains that Monsanto would have no reason to sue organic farmers because such ...


Monsanto ~ Why Does Monsanto Sue Farmers Who Save Seeds?
www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pages/why-does-monsanto-sue-farmers-who-save-seeds... - Similarto Monsanto ~ Why Does Monsanto Sue Farmers Who Save Seeds?

Monsanto's sues farmers whom illegally save our patented seed to be sure we are paid for the use of our ... To date, only 9 cases have gone through full trial.


Nelson Farm - A Fight Against A Giant -- Monsanto Sues North Dakota
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The Nelsons are a family of farmers in North Dakota, being sued by the St. Louis based, Biotechnology giant, Monsanto. Monsanto claims the Nelsons have ...



Monsanto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto - Similarto Monsanto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Monsanto has received media coverage for its alleged unfair suing of farmers, highlighted in the documentary The World according to Monsanto.

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Originally posted by longjohnbritches
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Originally posted by longjohnbritches

Originally posted by alfa1
Like Monsanto or not, those are the facts.

Monsanto has received media coverage for its alleged unfair suing of farmers, highlighted in the documentary The World according to Monsanto.

I'll repeat what I said earlier...
Once again, let me state I'm no fan of Monsanto (or any other large powerful multinational), but I am a huge fan of knowing what the facts and reality is behind any situation

You've listed a whole bunch of different cases, each one deserves to be examined on the merits of each alone.

Yes, Monsanto are a bunch of evil bastards, but people also LIE about them.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by longjohnbritches

Originally posted by alfa1
Like Monsanto or not, those are the facts.

Monsanto has received media coverage for its alleged unfair suing of farmers, highlighted in the documentary The World according to Monsanto.

I'll repeat what I said earlier...
Once again, let me state I'm no fan of Monsanto (or any other large powerful multinational), but I am a huge fan of knowing what the facts and reality is behind any situation

You've listed a whole bunch of different cases, each one deserves to be examined on the merits of each alone.

Yes, Monsanto are a bunch of evil bastards, but people also LIE about them.

A lie is one thing. A life is another.
Thank you for not supporting Monsanto.
I will always support your understanding of truth.

Originally posted by alfa1
Yes, Monsanto are a bunch of evil bastards, but people also LIE about them.

7,800 indian farmers commiting suicide in 1 year says it all.

Monsato is seeking a monopoly in everything they do. They have NO scruples and are aided by extremely wealthy and powerful people who make all the decisions for everyone.

This must stop.

Originally posted by nerbot
7,800 indian farmers commiting suicide in 1 year says it all.

No, actually it doesnt "say it all".
Like most things in the world, the issues are way way more complex than to be able to blame one thing (or company).

Websites like naturalnews would have you believe that the GM crops are responsible for everything, but for a more accurate assessment, take the time to read this report...

Every Thirty Minutes: Farmer Suicides, human rights and the agrarian crisis in India

Multifactorial issues, mostly relating to Indian Government policy.
GMO crops arent even mentioned at all in the Introduction or the Executive Summary, nor in the Recommendations section, nor the Concluding Observations section, but in fact only rate a mention in one small section of the report.

Thats why I said a few pages back that Monsanto were responsible "in part". Because thats what it is. Just a part.

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About time..........now the rest of us should follow suit.

Originally posted by longjohnbritches
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

You said
"I am no hardcore collectivist and actually despise full socialism(communism) because it encourages lazy atheistic principles. I think a mixed economy with great/grand oversight of the private sector is not only the best solution but the only solution. Yes discipline is important and that is why the military emphasis this characteristic so much, but where personal reasonability leaves off then it is time for the government to step in and assuming they are not corporate pawns they could progress society. "

Now to take you to Task. EARTHCITIZEN

Illustrate where in History your above idealism has prospered more than Democratic Capitalism?

BTW and how the hell does this relate to personal respossibility? Monsanto and the US government oppress the farmers

edit on 6/6/2012 by longjohnbritches because: garbly gook

Where do you see democratic capitalism?

Your buddies from the tea party LOVE republicanism and INSIST the founding fathers were all REPUBLICANS!

Actually I cannot think of any true democracy off the top of my head. Even the soviet union was formulated as a republican nation. Peoples republic of china as well. Why do does everyone love republicanism and fear democracy? A simple majority should rule the affairs of the day but no where do we really see this. Even in the UN we have a dictatorship of the security council compromised of the strongest military nations.

Originally posted by alfa1
Like most things in the world, the issues are way way more complex than to be able to blame one thing (or company).

And if you'd taken the time to read the rest of my post you would realise that I was NOT blaming a single company but all the people in aurhority in all those high places who allow and aid this. They need replacing with people who act for the majority and not corporate entities out for anything and everything they can get.

Cheers.

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Finally some movement! This is exactly the way that we need to take down corporations! Exposing such evil corporations is a good way to enlighten people to seeing that total corruption of the USA. If people see the large amount of corruption within corporations, they will hopefully see that our government is obviously corrupted, allowing such corporations to exist.