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Originally posted by Daedal
Treaties are also another way the constitution can be weakened.
onservatives hope for the best from Obamney?
Do you liberals hope for the best from Obamney?
Those who sit it out OBVIOUSLY hope for the best from Obomnay!
Where is our adherence to the constitution and how do we achieve it; is that what all of us even want?
What do we do in 2013 after Obomney wins??
How about they leave me alone and let me live my life the way I think it should be run, they should only protect our boarders to keep us from harm everything else is an over reach of power and is out of their jurisdiction! We don't need the government they need us without us they are nothing.
People shouldn't fear their government the government should fear the people they government.
I know you said no war cry it aint no cry, the only way out of this crap is 311,000,000 million people standing as one. but I'll drop of the grid before they get that far.
So, what can be done. We will be able to vote for Obama or Romney, both who bow to big money and corporations. That's the way things are set up now. Did the American people get called to the polls to vote on Corporations giving campaign contributions? I know not. I wonder how they got that passed without the American people who elect them voting on it personally. Those campaigning profit from those big contributions. They waste lots of money within the media so media backs this because of financial gains. Media control what we see. Without dumping this whole thing I see nothing the American people can do. Something is going to happen in the near future, I feel it in my bones.
i keep reading threads about how america is gonna fail
at least 2 or 3 a week (that i read) for the last 3 years
only thing is your never right.. you keep sayin its imminent but its been goin on for years
when is it gonna happen?
Im missing the point, its been a long day. What are you proposing we do to intervene?
No, Conservatives do not hope for the best from Obamney... they make the best out of what is given. Hope is removed, and action is taken.
Liberals(classical liberalism) don't hope for the best from Obamney.... they proclaim to make the best out of limited government, in which very few of them actually endorse.
Our adherence to the constitution has been missing for a long time now, some could argue that it never has been. It's an evolving piece, much of which is to remain as the backbone of its structure and should never be touched.
What we do after the election of Obamney in 2013 is embrace our liberties, exercise our freedoms, and express our grievances in peaceful assembly, continue to work hard, love our families, and further push for a more empathetic means of dealing with issues that arise in the future.
Winning...
Partisan is a joke, Ron Paul is the man, and no matter HOW MANY TIMES people want to just sit there and repeatedly say "Ron Paul has no chance"... keeping marching forward and allowing for the voice of reason to be heard. To vote for RP is no waste of a vote, even if not elected... you have been heard. Down the line, people will remember what he said and why he said it.
To simply move forward in some subservient fashion in accordance with partisan politics is foolish... a disgusting display of the suppression of dissent is for someone to suggest that voting RP isn't conducive towards achieving success in the pursuit of what's ideal for the relationship between the government and the people...Pshhh... "please conform, and accept these means... these are you options, and the options you want aren't there"... get outta here.
I'm in sales, and I close morons every day with the "option close": I present them "option A" and "option B". "No" is NOT an option, it's buy this one or that one. You would be shocked at how often that works. Way more than half the time. I guarantee it has worked on YOU many times in your life, often without you being aware of it.
This is exactly what the two party system is. It's a cheesy sales technique, it's all psychology, I would call it CHILD psychology, but it WORKS and it works VERY WELL. You've all been falling for it for over a hundred years.
"Your options are Obama or Romney. There is no other choice, it's our guy, or our other guy. Ron Paul has no chance, don't waste your vote on him. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! There is no other choice! Forget the part in the Declaration of Independence about your RIGHT TO ABOLISH THE GOVERNMENT. It's our way, or our way. There is no YOUR WAY."
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by mytheroy
How about they leave me alone and let me live my life the way I think it should be run, they should only protect our boarders to keep us from harm everything else is an over reach of power and is out of their jurisdiction! We don't need the government they need us without us they are nothing.
I’m with you!
We don’t have that nor will we get it with Obomney! What do we do next?
People shouldn't fear their government the government should fear the people they government.
I'm with you again!
I know you said no war cry it aint no cry, the only way out of this crap is 311,000,000 million people standing as one. but I'll drop of the grid before they get that far.
And when we’re done, then what? What’s the agenda; the constitution? What’s OWS’s take on the constitution? Do you know? I don't think they even agree on that? So what are we left with after we do what you advocate?