I make my own liposomal vit C. This stuff is frickin AMAZING!!!!!

Originally posted by 2serious
Still trying to decide how much vitamin C is likely to cause acidosis, I found this link:

Vitamin C and Blood PH

If your teacher really wants to know the amounts of vitamin C required to cause acidosis (metabolic acidosis that is), tell her you need about ONE GRAM PER KILOGRAM of weight, something unattanable and unthinkable to carry on......(that would be like 75 grams for an averahe light weight adult)

So, he's saying as a 125 lb. person (56.82 Kg), I would have to take 56 grams of vitamin C to reach a state of acidosis? That would be an awful lot . . . unless with the lipo method the C stays in the blood longer and accumulates by way of the liposome?

Any thoughts regarding this information?

part of the problem is, when not encapsulated in the lipid, the water solubility of it not only causes it to be lost in larger proportions but also puts stress on the system to remove it, by any means provided by the body, one of those being via the kidneys and urination. during its passage thru the body, it accumulates in body fluids, such as mucus.

i use to get upper respiratory infections that were severly painful because i was consuming large doses of vitamin c to combat the infection, thereby turning the streams of mucus assosicated with the infection, into highly acidic fluids. man that hurt. took years for me to realize that if i didn't take the vitamin c, the pain associated with an upper respiratory infection was minimal by comparison. in fact, i often didn't realize when the infection was severe because i thought severity was accompianed by the excruiating discomfort of having acidic mucus flowing over already inflamed tissues.

sooo, it's possible the lipid encapsulation may resolve some of that, by making it possible for your body to use more of it, rather than having it flowing around in its water soluble form, wreaking havoc in large doses.

Going to start this all over from scratch. After I posted my pictures of the mixture, I proceded to take it for two days with the results posted. Had to go away till now so havnt had any since and not really sure how long it can stay in the fridge...?

Have not opened it since so will make a fresh batch tomorrow and will take it every day and post results after a week.

I did notice an improvement in my skin after taking it. Then as it was longer since last taking it, it seemed to wear off and my skin returned to normal. I can only describe it as looking glowing lol, a healthy glow though. Has anyone else notice any improvements in this area? Ive missed a good few pages since last visiting this thread.

Originally posted by elliotmtl
Assuming an approximately equal lipid content per weight for liquid sunflower lecithin versus soy lecithin granules (and an analysis of the nutritional information seems to indicate that they do indeed), you would want to use about 22.5 grams of sunflower lecithin to replace 3 tablespoons of the regular soy lecithin. This works out to slightly less than 1.5 tablespoons.

Cool, you've done what I was too lazy to do up to now.
Can you take it a step further and translate all the measures into weights so we can have a weight of ingredients per liter of water or something similar?

Don't know if this question has been asked, as I don't feel like sifting through the last 57 pages but....

Wouldn't it be better to dissolve the AA in all the water first, and let the lecithin soak it up that way?

I'm going to try that and C what happens...

I think have all the right ingredients now, my first experiment was a total failure due to using the wrong kind of vitamin C,(Buffered, Calcium Ascorbate with other stuff mixed in)

Now I've got genuine 100% pure USP grade Ascorbic Acid...

I'll let you know what happens...

Originally posted by IrVulture
Don't know if this question has been asked, as I don't feel like sifting through the last 57 pages but....

Wouldn't it be better to dissolve the AA in all the water first, and let the lecithin soak it up that way?

I'm going to try that and C what happens...

I think have all the right ingredients now, my first experiment was a total failure due to using the wrong kind of vitamin C,(Buffered, Calcium Ascorbate with other stuff mixed in)

Now I've got genuine 100% pure USP grade Ascorbic Acid...

I'll let you know what happens...

Wait - the buffered Vit C won't work? I just ordered a bunch of that, because I was worried about the high acid in my body. What happened in your first experiment?

Originally posted by RogerT3

Originally posted by alienninja
Hey RogerT3....Where did you find the sunflower LC?

I am in Europe so bought from a UK online supplier called vivapure.co.uk
I see the brand all over the net though, it is this one: www.vivapure.co.uk...
Love Raw Foods is the brand name on the bottle
Product of Blue Mountain Organics, USA. is on the website

Thanks for your info on Sunflower Lecithin. I'm in the States and just ordered the same brand from amazon.com.
"Love Raw Foods" brand of raw sunflower lecithin sells for $14.25 for 16 oz. Shipping was another $6.
Should arrive in a few days.

Originally posted by neotech1neothink

Fermented Soy is Only Soy Food Fit for Human Consumption

Learn more: www.naturalnews.com...

I THINK I WILL FORGET SOY ALTOGETHER...AND USE SUNFLOWER TOO!

a gleeful goodbye to soy

Review by Heather

I am so grateful to find this sunflower lecithin. I love how lecithin makes my raw smoothies so creamy and I'm conscious that it's the only source of choline so it's a huge relief not to have to use soy to get those benefits. Soy is iffy for several reasons but I've been especially troubled by its oestrogenic properties because like so many women, I have hormonal imbalance and regular use of soy make it worse. So I'm really pleased with this sunflower lecithin, it's the answer to a smoothie-loving middle aged woman's prayer! (Posted on 24/08/2011)

Thanks for the info. I really had no idea that UNfermented soy was so unhealthy.
I wonder why those promoting LET are using (non-GMO, of course) soy lecithin.

In any case, I just ordered some raw sunflower lecithin and will report on that too.

Originally posted by undo

part of the problem is, when not encapsulated in the lipid, the water solubility of it not only causes it to be lost in larger proportions but also puts stress on the system to remove it, by any means provided by the body, one of those being via the kidneys and urination. during its passage thru the body, it accumulates in body fluids, such as mucus.

i use to get upper respiratory infections that were severly painful because i was consuming large doses of vitamin c to combat the infection, thereby turning the streams of mucus assosicated with the infection, into highly acidic fluids. man that hurt. took years for me to realize that if i didn't take the vitamin c, the pain associated with an upper respiratory infection was minimal by comparison. in fact, i often didn't realize when the infection was severe because i thought severity was accompianed by the excruiating discomfort of having acidic mucus flowing over already inflamed tissues.

sooo, it's possible the lipid encapsulation may resolve some of that, by making it possible for your body to use more of it, rather than having it flowing around in its water soluble form, wreaking havoc in large doses.

I have no doubt that the lipo encapsulation of the C helps make it less acid -- you can taste the difference.

However, I'm noticing that after a few days on LEC, the bicarbonate of soda I'm taking on the side is NOT enough.
I'm getting a sour stomach.

I have decided to follow MegaMind's lead in combining the baking soda with the C & Lecithin before placing it in the USC for encapsulation. I will be using a different proportion though (the Aussie one).

Originally posted by The 5th
Going to start this all over from scratch. After I posted my pictures of the mixture, I proceded to take it for two days with the results posted. Had to go away till now so havnt had any since and not really sure how long it can stay in the fridge...?

Have not opened it since so will make a fresh batch tomorrow and will take it every day and post results after a week.

I did notice an improvement in my skin after taking it. Then as it was longer since last taking it, it seemed to wear off and my skin returned to normal. I can only describe it as looking glowing lol, a healthy glow though. Has anyone else notice any improvements in this area? Ive missed a good few pages since last visiting this thread.

Yes, I've noticed an improvement in the skin (smoother, plumper) -- I've posted on this before.

If your system is toxic, Vitamin C will bring the poisons to the surface for release -- in the form of pimples.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Wait - the buffered Vit C won't work? I just ordered a bunch of that, because I was worried about the high acid in my body. What happened in your first experiment?

What's in the Buffered Vit C you ordered? I am using pure Kal C-Crystals for this purpose. But I have some Bronson C powder buffered with calcium-magnesium and potassium which I chose NOT to use for this purpose, simply because it's not part of any of the recipes.

LET means this is like injecting these substances directly into the blood -- think of this as injections into the veins. I don't know what the result would be be. It might be harmless, but I don't know -- I'm not a doctor.

You can make your own Sodium Ascorbate (bicarbonate of soda mixed with C).
The following is the Aussie formula I'm going to be using for my next batch:

1 level TBsp of Vitamin C crystals dissolved in
2 oz cool Distilled water

1 HEAPING TBsp of baking soda (use Bob's Red Mill aluminum-free Baking Soda) dissolved in
2 oz cool Distilled water

Slowly dribble the baking soda solution into the Vit C solution, stirring until the bubbling stops.

Then combine with the thoroughly dissolved COOL Lecithin solution (3 level TBsp of lecithin dissolved in
1 cup Distilled water)

Place this Vit C, baking soda, lecithin solution in the USC for 30 min. -- stirring throughout.

C works very good with Potassium Iodide, for metabolism and heath, including cancer, and for detox of heavy metals in the body.


"Iodine: The Misunderstood Nutrient" - David Brownstein

www.laurapower.com...

The recommended doses of iodide are far far too low, they are still in the deficiency amount. We need quite a bit, and somewhere I read about thyroid and metabolism tweaking involves taking your iodide and C same time.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by IrVulture
Don't know if this question has been asked, as I don't feel like sifting through the last 57 pages but....

Wouldn't it be better to dissolve the AA in all the water first, and let the lecithin soak it up that way?

I'm going to try that and C what happens...

I think have all the right ingredients now, my first experiment was a total failure due to using the wrong kind of vitamin C,(Buffered, Calcium Ascorbate with other stuff mixed in)

Now I've got genuine 100% pure USP grade Ascorbic Acid...

I'll let you know what happens...

Wait - the buffered Vit C won't work? I just ordered a bunch of that, because I was worried about the high acid in my body. What happened in your first experiment?

It wouldn't mix right, The lecithin just floated on top of the murky water!
Even when I tried using my hand blender till it was nothing but foam, everything just settled back out and separated.

Maybe you'll have better luck....

My latest batch with USP AA turned out fine!
But I got kinda carried away and put 3 tablespoons of AA instead of 1...
Whoo boy is it ever sour!
May have to dilute it...

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by The 5th
Going to start this all over from scratch. After I posted my pictures of the mixture, I proceded to take it for two days with the results posted. Had to go away till now so havnt had any since and not really sure how long it can stay in the fridge...?

Have not opened it since so will make a fresh batch tomorrow and will take it every day and post results after a week.

I did notice an improvement in my skin after taking it. Then as it was longer since last taking it, it seemed to wear off and my skin returned to normal. I can only describe it as looking glowing lol, a healthy glow though. Has anyone else notice any improvements in this area? Ive missed a good few pages since last visiting this thread.

Yes, I've noticed an improvement in the skin (smoother, plumper) -- I've posted on this before.

If your system is toxic, Vitamin C will bring the poisons to the surface for release -- in the form of pimples.

So THAT'S why I look like I'm going through a second puberty!

Been taking my "buffered" C while waiting for the AA to arrive, Didn't want it to go to waste.

Originally posted by AuranVector


What's in the Buffered Vit C you ordered? I am using pure Kal C-Crystals for this purpose. But I have some Bronson C powder buffered with calcium-magnesium and potassium which I chose NOT to use for this purpose, simply because it's not part of any of the recipes.

It just lists sodium and vitamin C as the ingredients.

pureformulas.com...

I have a question.
I have been all through the research done by Linus Pauling, Robert Cathcart, Albert Szent-Györgyi and Fred Klenner, and I haven't seen any reference to massive doses of C causing elevated acid levels in the body.
And they used some pretty massive doses.
So what is everyone worried about?
Is there something we know now that they all missed?
Did I miss something in their research?
It looks like if C elevated the acid in your body, it would eliminate it's cancer killing ability.

reply to post by Unity_99


THANK YOU for posting this video on iodine deficiency!! It is amazing. I can't believe that most likely 90% of Americans are iodine deficient and this can result in such things as heart disease, hormone-related cancers, ADHD, etc. I dug out my dulse flakes today and am committing to using them and other seaweed on a regular basis now. I am so grateful for this information. I highly recommend this video to everyone on this thread. If you have concerns about energy levels, thyroid/iodine is an important link. Cold hands? Hormonal issues (breast or ovarian cysts, etc.)? Heart disease? Cancer? Sluggish metabolism? Look at iodine intake. Environmental / farming / food processing practices are an issue here with other substances beating out iodine.

reply to post by 2serious


Yes. They've done it all on purpose. And we have to take back our health . I found a video to take commercial grade iodide, for livestock and turn it to pure form. So we can make our own if we have to.

reply to post by Unity_99


Vitamin C appears to help iodine channels throughout the body. This research is titled:
"Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport mechanism for iodine: A Case Report"

LINK

More pluses for sunflower lecithin -- soy is a goitrogenic (anti-thyroid) substance, but raw sunflower seeds contain iodine! I'm really feeling the need to order the sunflower lecithin now and get off all my soy products. Very sad, as I am a vegetarian and use quite a bit of soy. Wheat, soy, meat, are off limits?! (husband is gluten intolerant) . . . Dairy is iffy (hard to get organic/non rBGH, and no-raw milk) . . . almost nothing good to eat at all. Add on top of that all that brominated produce from Southern California (including organic lettuce) and nothing is safe. No wonder I feel so good on a long fast.

One week/7day update. I've lost 7 lbs...wow. I'm not really overweight just a little fluffy in a few places on my body. I'll attribute the loss to a much higher energy level and moving around a lot more than I normally would.

I had a real come to comparison moment yesterday regarding the LEC. I took it around 4am to get ready for another long day at a show., but forgot to take a dose with me for mid-day. By 2 in the afternoon, I was feeling whooped and tired. It was a hectic day and I only got 1 hours sleep Friday night. Had too much to finish up for Sat. The LEC kept me going strong all day Friday, pulled an almost 24 hour work stint with no ill effects. But, as I said, Sat., around 2pm, the bottom fell out on my energy roll. I'm 61 and know better than to push myself like that, I just did. Stupid me.

I got home around 4;00 on Sat afternoon, took my second dose for the day to catch up...then slept like a log until 6;00am this morning. I took my first dose for today when I woke up. It's now 3 and half hours later, and I feel GREAT!

The LEC has made a big difference in my day to day life. I've been with this thread since the OP made his first post.

Thanks to everyone who've made this the best group experiment I've ever been involved in. I'm doing things I never thought I'd have the energy to do again at this time in my life. I feel blessed to have found this thread, and to meet the wonderful Folks who've become my LEC forum Family.

Des

Originally posted by Unity_99
C works very good with Potassium Iodide, for metabolism and heath, including cancer, and for detox of heavy metals in the body.

"Iodine: The Misunderstood Nutrient" - David Brownstein

www.laurapower.com...

The recommended doses of iodide are far far too low, they are still in the deficiency amount. We need quite a bit, and somewhere I read about thyroid and metabolism tweaking involves taking your iodide and C same time.

edit on 23-6-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

Wow is right. This is a very important video, especially since I am hypothyroid and on a synthetic drug. I'm doing the home test today.

Thank you so much for sharing that video.