I make my own liposomal vit C. This stuff is frickin AMAZING!!!!!

I made some with a blender and my "atomizer". It doesnt taste tart or cause any gastric distress. Im sure its somewhat encapsulated.

I have ordered the US cleaner to produce the "real thing". I am excited. I have had allergies most my adult life, and vitamin C in tablet form has already helped me so much. The "flight or fight" response from allergies can be debilitating. Your blood and brain are flooded with histamines. Vit C breaks down histamines. Im convinced that Vit C is a cure for most mental maladies. Im convinced that histamine levels have a yin/yang effect on human brains. Too much and your nuts. Too little and your too sane. Too mellow. Every advance in humanity was the result of the crazy.

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I want to find the balance point. IF Vit. C is the miracle substance I think it is, I want to find the level right for me. I want some level of "creativity" and a level of pure sanity. A very interesting thread for me.

I'm just lovin' this thread. If the camaraderie, compassion, and goodwill being shown here, could be spread across the whole internet....what a fine thing that would be. Maybe this is the start of something special. I think it is.

Des

hey all

just another update

gave my friend some last night, he has been sick for the last week with the flu, he sent me a message at 10 am this morning telling me he has got his dinner ready for tonight, vacuumed his floor, and done his washing. and said he feels amazing, hasnt even coughed once today!

it must be working, he never washes his own clothes

im onto day 5 now, or 6, not sure time ha sbeen going so fast lol

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excellent, your poll link should be in the sticky along with all the various recipes that are going to come out of this thread. Mods, what about it?

ETA: I have my own server, so can easily set up an editable page for this if ATS can't provide one. I know that's a sensitive issue on ATS so apologies upfront, the suggestion is meant to support the thread only! Another option is to do a wikipedia page that anyone can add to or edit.

ETA: took 2 ounces today in a glass of apple juice with my superfood. No stomach churning this time, so either the juice or the SF helped, or I am already acclimatized to a gram or two of C.

Originally posted by broli
So I'm the guy who took that 9gr Vit C megadose in one ago, and it's morning now so I slept over it. The only noticeable side effect was the overload of gas during the night which wasn't that bothersome as I sleep alone

. I also woke up an hour more early than usual without any tiredness this morning. And per usual I also go the the toilet in the morning but this time I didn't have to force much which is usually the case. What came out was plenty of gas and the solids weren't that runny or at least nothing too different from the usual.
So that was that experience, I think my body has a good tolerance for high doses of vit C then again my diet is also not that bad. I drink only water and tea, use stevia or honey as sweetener and never eat fast food crap.

Also concerning the sour taste of the liposomal solution. It would make sense that the less sour it is the more vit C is encapsulated so perhaps here are a few taste tests that one could do.

• take a sample before sonification and compare taste of this to a sample after sonification
  
• make a very shallow batch, according to the literature, this small amount should be encapsulated better due to more power density distribution of the sound waves, again compare taste between different batches
  
• Increase sonification time by a double, triple and quadruple and check taste
  

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I'm gonna postulate that a pH meter would be a more reproducible and standardized way of doing this and will test the theory when I get the new USC and the NOW lecithin

Look I've been reading through this thread and apart from the OP and one other bloke who have said "It's fantastic", All i've read from a few others are "I think it's helping"; which to be honest, for me, isn't that helpful in deciding whether or not to do this.

Can I please get some legitimate and well thought out replies as to whether this stuff is something that will benefit me greatly as described in the OP, or whether if I want the same effect, to just up the dose of vitamin c orally, even though it's not supposedly as efficient.?

Please.

Why not just try it and find out for yourself?
Genuine question, not meant to be confrontational ;0)

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Well lets see. Costs involved in doing it. For me here in the great land of the Aussie Rip-off it would probably end up being about $150+ and however many hours.

Much easier to ask the opinions of others before i determine it a worthwhile cause to put my money where their mouth is.

Understood, however as you say, this seems to be quite a personal thing. Some are getting outstanding results, others not so much. Perhaps it's the procedure, perhaps it's the supplement?

Maybe you could try buying some lipoC first before investing in the kit?

Originally posted by DaRAGE
Look I've been reading through this thread and apart from the OP and one other bloke who have said "It's fantastic", All i've read from a few others are "I think it's helping"; which to be honest, for me, isn't that helpful in deciding whether or not to do this.

Can I please get some legitimate and well thought out replies as to whether this stuff is something that will benefit me greatly as described in the OP, or whether if I want the same effect, to just up the dose of vitamin c orally, even though it's not supposedly as efficient.?

Please.

I doubt you will get a huge energy boost, I get a nice mellow feeling, but the benefits are worth it. It will make your immune system much stronger, which will make you healthier. There is so much stuff out there that can affect you on a daily basis and with this I stand a better chance.

I would see it more as a prevention, sure you can try it to cure something, but at the end of the day you want to prevent flu, diseases, cancer and just about anything that can affect your body.

Vitamin c is a powerful antioxidant and you never know when a serious illness can hit you so I would rather be safe than sorry.

In theory, if you can achieve a 75% encapsulation, and you take 1000mg's of vitamin c in a serving, you will get say +/- 750mg's. If you took it the usual way, of that 1000mg's, you will get only +/- 180mg's. You get around 3x the amount you would normally get in a serving.

Another benefit is, you can take say 3000mg's or even an extreme 6000mg's, without any side-affects. I'm not going to recommend that but still...

This thread grows so fast, I don´t have time to cach up with everything atm Just wanted to say, that it´s my 4th day with this C-vitamine. I´m still experimenting with dosage. First day I took 2 tablespoons twice a day and felt good, but would have wanted more energy. On second day I took 4 tablespoons twice a day, but this made me sleepy. One reason was probably, that I was up in the early morning (4-6 am) to wach Venus transit, but I still was too sleepy all day. I have mentioned my ADD and how many things make me sleepy that make others eneregtic, so I always have to find my own dosage.
So, yesterday I took 2 tblspoons twice a day again and it was very nice again. Not too much energy, but I had this sense of well-being and friendliness that I experienced in the first day. If I get things done relatively well, then I like it. I don´t need to be hyperactive.
Doday I took 8 tablespoons (about 3 hours ago). Feeling well balanced and working calmly with my wrintings. Strange, that it hasn´t made me very active or energetic jet, rather relaxed, happier and it increases concentration. I keep playing with dosage and see, how it goes, but so far I like it

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Very cool. Thanks for more feedback.
Are you using a 'proper' measuring tablespoon (which is half a fluid ounce or 15ml) or are you using a kitchen spoon?

Originally posted by RogerT3
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Are you using a 'proper' measuring tablespoon (which is half a fluid ounce or 15ml) or are you using a kitchen spoon?

I´m using ordinary kichen spoon. But I also use little dl cup, when I take more than one spoon. According to this one spoon is 11-12 ml.

Originally posted by Amandla
Not too much energy, but I had this sense of well-being and friendliness that I experienced in the first day.

It could be the vitamin c or lecithin. I get the same feeling, very strange isnt it.... I like the feeling. I wont say no to a great energy boost but I dont see it happening.

Took another 2 ounces of my first batch which has also been ascorbated!
So that's 4 ounces by lunch time and nothing major to report either way.
I'll keep increasing until I get something dramatic - good or bad

Well, I must say, that this 8 spoons gave me more energy. Just worked outside (in country home) and felt much more physical energy. Not hyperactive-kind of energy at all, but good, systematic and strong. I usually never do this much work at one time and so productively . This thing is interesting indeed. But it very much depends on dosage, how it works.

Originally posted by Bluesquid
The "flight or fight" response from allergies can be debilitating. Your blood and brain are flooded with histamines. Vit C breaks down histamines. Im convinced that Vit C is a cure for most mental maladies. Im convinced that histamine levels have a yin/yang effect on human brains. Too much and your nuts. Too little and your too sane. Too mellow. Every advance in humanity was the result of the crazy.
LINK
I want to find the balance point. IF Vit. C is the miracle substance I think it is, I want to find the level right for me. I want some level of "creativity" and a level of pure sanity. A very interesting thread for me.

Vitamin C helps reduce levels of copper. (This is why Mercola warns against using too much vitamin C over a long period because it can create a copper deficiency.) Copper is the highly-conductive heavy metal that floats around all of us and gets into our head and makes us crazy if we have too much. (I have experienced copper-toxicity and it was horrible . . .) In the past, I have also had terrible allergies, starting in high school with cortisone shots just to survive. Slowly, I have recovered, it seems.

I have done at least three full-blown Master cleanses (lemon juice / maple syrup) diet, in particular to help my body recover from copper toxicity. Many of the things that are described with the lipo C are also exactly what I experienced on the MC (better mental clarity, more energy). If you really want to get crazy, start researching copper toxicity and histamine. It gets confusing pretty quickly, but here are some interesting reads:

Copper Toxicity Syndrome

The Ups and Downs of Abnormal Brain Histamine

Copper Toxicity

All that to say, if some of these articles are accurate, that we live in a copper-toxic world, then I suspect that many of the initial good-feelings from the lipo C are actually in-part because of a reduction of copper levels, or at least the harmful "bio-unavailable copper."

Originally posted by DaRAGE
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Well lets see. Costs involved in doing it. For me here in the great land of the Aussie Rip-off it would probably end up being about $150+ and however many hours.

Much easier to ask the opinions of others before i determine it a worthwhile cause to put my money where their mouth is.

Hey mate,

I purchased the ingredients for $60, im in brisbane too, if you want i could make you a batch and give it to you? i could even show you how i make it so you know whats in it etc. (all the ingredients i bought are on page 25)

it works for me, and my mate, ive been going for 5 or 6 days now and its great, it's not like a "pinging" feeling, just nice and awake, alert, and me personally, feel less of my aches and ains, if at all.

just let me know if your interested

Some questions from a non-chemist but rather a halfway decent cook. It appears what is being made here is an emulsion. Is the vitamin C actually being "encapsulated" or is it just in a viscous solution? My impression is the latter, but again I'm no chemist. My thoughts for the use of the ultrasonic cleaner is to further break down the air bubbles in the emulsion to much finer bubbles and this does not change the mixture on a molecular level. Wouldn't the C need to bond on a molecular level for this to actually work as intended? Some helpful insight is appreciated.

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Google "liposome sonication" or "liposome ultrasound" and start your research there you'll learn something. There's plenty of free and nonfree research papers you can find on the subject.