Compiled List of People-Eating-People Events

reply to post by MojaveBurning


I was able to find 3 viruses that cause rage/aggression - probably more but at least two have had recent outbreaks (US & Abroad)

-Seoul Virus
-Borna Virus
-Human Rabies Virus

The obvious choice would be rabies, because it is more common and the effects are more widely known. But I still think that what we are dealing with maybe either 1. new 2. combination of a couple of virus.

After all, once you post that a 'zombie' virus is possible- someone is bound to try to make it. And that article saying it was possible is old.. and the researcher did come out of FLORIDA...

Originally posted by ragiusnotiel
reply to post by MojaveBurning

 

After all, once you post that a 'zombie' virus is possible- someone is bound to try to make it. And that article saying it was possible is old.. and the researcher did come out of FLORIDA...

I thought the same thing years ago! Terrorists and the unauthorized researchers are always looking for new weapons and this would be something that would be worthwhile to at least try.

Also, at this point in our thread I would say that the most logical answer would be Synthia. Let me tell you why:

-It's not something that was already on Earth, so the effects are unknown.
-Mutation possibilities are unknown because this is 'fresh life'.
-It was created in a lab- engineering 'life' is an unknown territory.
-It was designed to eat, which while may seem like I'm reaching- is what these people are trying to do (whether they're successful or not).
-It was highly controversial even in the science/medical community and they didn't think engineering 'life' was worth the risk.
-It was put into the ocean- and after a harsh hurricane season on the East Coast- most of the 'outbreaks' seem to be centered there.
-Other outbreak are with the highest concentration seems to be the UK, which also saw remnants of the aforementioned storm season.
-Outbreaks seemed to have started right after Beryl made its trip around Georgia and Florida, leading us to assume that if it is Synthia causing this the mutations have gotten significantly worse.
-Outbreaks in other areas could be explained by the recycling of ocean water in to vapor in rain, would also explain why they're incidences are in smaller quantities etc.
-It was never intended to have contact with human life therefore the effects it would have on it would be unknown.
-Evolution happens in every living thing on Earth, so this would be no different, just under a different heading of 'mutation'
-The institute responsible for creating Synthia has made errors before- most notably one that took 3 months to fix- specifically with replication (which shouldn't have been fixed if you ask me)
-It is formed by mutating, so why wouldn't it continue?
-It's basis is formed off of a parasitic bacterium STD that infects both male and female humans
-The basis it is formed off of Mycoplasma genitalium - is known to have to find a host to carry out all functions as it lacks many things I.E. amino acid biosynthesis.
-The basis is a confirmed human parasite and needs a host for survival, it is also still evolving.
-The basis usually attaches itself to another virus for survival, it also is able to use gene encoding.
-The basis also adapts to the immune system's response of the virus, it also can "inject" itself into other cells allowing it to hide.
-It's basis is known to be resistant to many antibiotics, and they are still working on effective treatments.

What's everyone think? I'd love opinions.

reply to post by ragiusnotiel


I will agree here.

But I dont think it will on its own cause the things we are seeing. I think it has mixed with a disease (rabies being the main on im thinking of) or Chemicals ect in the food we eat.

Originally posted by Snakedoctorjw
reply to post by ragiusnotiel

 

I will agree here.

But I dont think it will on its own cause the things we are seeing. I think it has mixed with a disease (rabies being the main on im thinking of) or Chemicals ect in the food we eat.

-The basis also adapts to the immune system's response of the virus, it also can "inject" itself into other cells allowing it to hide.

It could have inserted itself into something common.. or perhaps rabies?

reply to post by ragiusnotiel


Well if it can attach to something relatively common then the best guess with be flu.

reply to post by Snakedoctorjw


I think it would have to be common but not that common, or maybe not even that but with different modes of transport. I think if it had attached itself to a flu virus we would have many more cases then we do, right? Or maybe just a non airborne flu- are there any? What other illness are common? All the ones that I can think of are airborne.

I really think it's something that isn't airborne- at least yet.

The Common Cold?
Top 10 Communicable Illnesses

Another one -

Cops: 'Crazed' woman stole wig, bit shop owner, spit his own flesh back at him

Also, my previous map update with the two incidences from 6/05 didn't take but they are there now along with this one.

See you tomorrow folks!

reply to post by ragiusnotiel



Several years ago we started seeing "super bugs" which were resistant to antibiotics. Rabies is one of the oldest diseases in mankind. If it has become "super" as a result of mutation against antibiotics, who know what it could become. Many of the signs and symptoms of these "zombies" are the same as rabies. When you couple this with the large spike in rabies infections both humans and animals it would seem we are dealing with a known pathogen.

I admit I have not looked into Synthia, so it is possible. Are there any documented cases of its effects on humans?

+edit - Flu/rabies hybrid is really scarey I have to admit. How do "zombie" locations compare to instances of H1N1 and H5N1 in recent years? I am stuck on the rabies angle and I will spend some time today after work trying to develop some kind of solid theory. This will have to be very simple and will not be professional quality as I do not work in the medical field.


If we are really assuming it is a disease and not a drug, can we determine what vectors all the "zombies" have in common (living conditions, food, habits, jobs)?

reply to post by 200Plus

I admit I have not looked into Synthia, so it is possible. Are there any documented cases of its effects on humans?

I would bet that there are documents somewhere.
I would also bet that they are not available to the public.

ETA:

If it has become "super" as a result of mutation against antibiotics, who know what it could become.

Rabies, being a virus, is not affected by antibiotics. Louis Pasteur created a vaccine against rabies in 1885. It has been our only tool to battle rabies and is still effective. It can be used effectively before infection or between infection and the onset of symptoms.

reply to post by 200Plus


True, Something I dreamed about last night and made a bit of sense as well.

If we are thinking and talking pathogen's what about some of the most common water disease, cryptosporidium and giardia. Now I know the affects of these two are explosive in the end .

But there are more than just these two. I think I have to agree it may not be air born YET, but I think it may be more than contact on contact spread, Synthia in the fresh water and or the aquifer would mean easy transmission. I think right now it is affecting weakened/compromised immune systems.

I dont and can not buy the bath salts BS a tox screen can be done in a day or two the norm for results is 6 weeks. They issued bath salts to quickly for me, It was almost instantaneously stated.

I remember reading a few years back a medical article on a resistant strain of rabies already being out there. If this is caused by that alone we have a problem, If it is that strain and synthia is mutating with it then we have a major problem.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by 200Plus

 

If it has become "super" as a result of mutation against antibiotics, who know what it could become.

Rabies, being a virus, is not affected by antibiotics. Louis Pasteur created a vaccine against rabies in 1885. It has been our only tool to battle rabies and is still effective. It can be used effectively before infection or between infection and the onset of symptoms.

edit on 7-6-2012 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

Is it possible that rabies has either become immune to the vaccine, mutated, or even mutated as a result of the air-dropped rabies vaccines?

www.kitsapsun.com...

Drunk smell could be ketoacidosis. I doubt it just saying though.



This one is from April 21 so right on the line of the 6 week time frame from the Miami case.

www.thestar.com...

reply to post by Kalamord


Absolutely possible that rabies could mutate.

I am surprised that it hasn't mutated already, to the point of making the vaccine ineffective.

ETA: Wikipedia: Rabies Virus provides this info on the rabies virus evolution... It is a relatively 'new' virus.

All extant rabies viruses appear to have evolved within the last 1500 years.[13] Consequently, the emergence of rabies may have been contemporaneous with the extreme weather events of 535–536 and/or the eruption of Krakatoa. There are seven genotypes of rabies virus. In Eurasia cases are due to three of these - genotype 1 (classical rabies) and to a lesser extent genotypes 5 and 6 (European bat lyssaviruses type-1 and -2).[14] Genotype 1 evolved in Europe in the 17th century and spread to Asia, Africa and the Americas as a result of European exploration and colonization.

Originally posted by Snakedoctorjw
www.kitsapsun.com...

Drunk smell could be ketoacidosis. I doubt it just saying though.



This one is from April 21 so right on the line of the 6 week time frame from the Miami case.

www.thestar.com...

edit on 7-6-2012 by Snakedoctorjw because: (no reason given)

Good point on the ketoacidosis.
So many of these events have the perpetrator biting at the face and head of the victim (including the Toronto event you linked). Very strange.

reply to post by butcherguy


You know thats what has been bugging me, Why there, why not MORE arms and hands than direct faces.

The arms and hands are easier targets, I think we all may have had a fit of rage at least once for what ever reason, You become impulsive and react while doing so you look for the closest easiest thing to take that aggression out on that would be the arms and hands of a person defending themselves.

It is striking me as weird that these people are going for faces. Even rabies infected (insert animal here) go for what they know naturally to go for dogs its the throat but they bite what ever they can, they dont just target the neck.

Another thing that bothers me is the way that a lot of medicines are created today.
I will use Remicade as an example. It is used to treat certain types of arthritis and Crohn's disease.

They produce the medicine by growing it in mouse cells that contain recombinant human DNA. They engineered an animal cell to produce a medicine. If you look into the production procedures for that particular medicines manufacture, you find that at various steps, they check for 'unwanted' murine(mouse) antibodies and in particular, xenotropic murine retroviruses, which are suspected to be linked to a variety of human diseases. These are spot tests that they do, they really don't know what could slip through.

And that is just one medicine that has been around for a while. I think they are playing with some really scary stuff, and giving it to us to cure our ills.

Great thread.

I've been reading it from time to time and will subscribe.

I have no clue what's going on but I haven't seen anything unusual where I am.

Originally posted by butcherguy
Another thing that bothers me is the way that a lot of medicines are created today.
I will use Remicade as an example. It is used to treat certain types of arthritis and Crohn's disease.

They produce the medicine by growing it in mouse cells that contain recombinant human DNA. They engineered an animal cell to produce a medicine. If you look into the production procedures for that particular medicines manufacture, you find that at various steps, they check for 'unwanted' murine(mouse) antibodies and in particular, xenotropic murine retroviruses, which are suspected to be linked to a variety of human diseases. These are spot tests that they do, they really don't know what could slip through.

And that is just one medicine that has been around for a while. I think they are playing with some really scary stuff, and giving it to us to cure our ills.

Excellent thought. I have to agree modern drugs are not tested as they should be the production itself is questionable in itself as well. I could see a drug being the cause of a plague.

Originally posted by LightsideAssassin

Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by ragiusnotiel

 

I just red the headlines to the stories...(not the majority of the content)...and I am really upset by all of this...as I know many, many members of ATS are too.

I can find no humor in any of this at all.

The fact that it is happening a lot lately...makes me wonder...why? Also...lately there is a lot of increased gun violence.

Ah, chillax. It's just an outbreak of cannibalism. #, the economy is bad. People gotta eat

Really...are we safe anymore? Can we really fully trust...our neighbors...spouses...friends...acquaintances?

The 4th line down is yours.....I did not say that....somehow you embedded your reply into my original post.

You said: "Ah, chillax. It's just an outbreak of cannibalism...#, the economy is bad. People gotta eat."

I don't agree with what you said...and please don't misrepresent me again.

My original reply is on page 9...if anyone is interested.