Hitler/Nazis are Right Wing and not Left Wing. Don't be fooled by lies.

@OP
You seem to have ties to Stuttgart, Germany. This adds huge amounts of extra information to me about you.

Everyone else can google "stammheim turks" to get the picture.

BTW, go to turkey, walk around like in your avatar in downtown, see what happens in that great communist country.

Despite attempts to put them on a "wing", Nazis were neither right nor left. They were unprincipled opportunists whose only policies were racism, ethnocentricity, bullying, and theft.

The Nazi govt was willing to form the Hitler-Stalin Pact and coordinate the invasion of Poland with Stalin. The Nazis frequently seized entire companies and nationalized them with Nazi personnel.

The Nazis got power and support by promoting racism and ethnocentricity and persuading Germans (and "Teutonic people" in other countries) that they were entitled to use force to get the property of those who were unlike them.

Originally posted by BioSafe
LEFT or RIGHT does it really matter.

Indeed!

No matter what end of the so called political 'spectrum', what you get is a hierarchical structure with a minority ruling elite controlling the life chances/outcomes or prosperity of the majority. Nazism and Stalinism serve as examples of what actually happens when the paradigm is shifted to it's extremes, ie, a lot of people end up dead. To my mind, this indicates that all political extremes are facist by nature and all political systems facist by definition. I don't really get why anarchism even features in the 'spectrum' when ideologically, it is apolitical and stands outside the paradigm just as I do not understand why politicos ignore apartheid as an ideology when it clearly continues to exist.

Originally posted by Germanicus
Wow,what an awesome post.

You are right. Hitler was right.

One of the things that motivated him was how the communists caused strikes when he was fighting against the French on the front lines in WW1. It was at a time when the Germans were starting to gain the upper hand because they had dealt with the Russians pretty much and could now focus on one front instead of two.

Hitler was so upset that his own people would strike against its own Military. He rightly,blamed the communists. The communist traitors lost the War for Germany.

Then he comes back to Germany after the war has ended and the place is being run by communist thugs. These communists thugs are one of the primary things that motivated him to get into politics. His father had been involved in politics but Hitler had no interest until he had come back to a Germany run by traitor thugs.

The traitor Red Devil strikes are also why Hitler was so anti-unions. He took away the right to strike. He pretty much did away with unions.

Anyway,I agree. Hitler was right for sure.

edit on 31-5-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

edit- not that these Red Devils represented true communism. They were 'communist' though.

edit on 31-5-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

Erm, can I ask where you got your information from? You are wrong on a lot of things. The unrest in Germany came about because the war was seen as lost - the Battle of Amiens and the 100 Days Offensive had broken the German Army, which was in full retreat. The British blockade was throttling the German economy and the Americans were getting stronger and stronger. The Stab In The Back myth is just that - a myth.

too bad the nazis didnt get rid of this zionist jewish manipulative plague. the nazis were right in one thing. gassing the manipulative control freak jews. the world would have more economic freedom without the jews.

Originally posted by hatezionist
too bad the nazis didnt get rid of this zionist jewish manipulative plague. the nazis were right in one thing. gassing the manipulative control freak jews. the world would have more economic freedom without the jews.

That is a thoroughly unpleasant and sick comment. Can I non-star this somehow?

The writer of this article is misinformed. It is anachronistic to fully align, in one-to-one correspondence, Hitler's Fascist ideology and political system, which in itself was as complex as it was disturbing, with the majority of contemporary Western politics, left or right. Not to mention, the paradigm under which he argues (particularly the authoritarian/libertarian diagram) would implicate Leftist politics...using the logic of the author. In other words, Stalin was a Leftist, who murdered 40 million people. Therefore Leftists in today's world are like Stalin. The logic does not follow in implicating Left or Right politics by drawing correspondence to these 20th century figures. Are there some similarities? Certainly. But not enough to derive an absolute parallel between their total political systems.

And another thing. According to the second diagram the author posted, "Neo-liberalism" and "Libertarianism" are painted as synonymous. This is untrue. Libertarian politics is classic liberalism and original to America's founding political system. Contemporary liberalism is not.

originally posted by: Leftist

Above: "Antifa," or the Anti-Fascist Movement, is a vigorous leftist position that particularly targets the neo-Nazis and other far-right today. Its roots go back to the 1930s, when German Communists risked their lives and freedom to fight the Nazis, often ending their days in concentration camps. The historical (and present-day) antagonism between the hard-left and far-right is enduring evidence of one of history's deepest ideological divides.

Lefty? Righty? ; couldn't care less. I believe all extremists are bad (except maybe Mother Teresa) I've been claiming for years now that the progressives have been getting more militant and totalitarian and they'll probably end up just as bad as everyone else who starts ruthlessly enforcing behavior for the greater good. My point is when I see two groups of people who are screaming and throwing things like molotov cocktails at each other I see animals making animal noises so I can't understand them anyway.

a reply to: Leftist

Socialist governments turn into what we have in Venezuela THEN we have dictators so NO America won't allow suck Marxist ideologies to fester here like California...er A banana republic so the Globalists can balkanize us.
The alternative work YOU show isn't what is taught OUTSIDE of Marxist coastal affiliate enclaves and "higher learning" curriculums they smoked these dumbasses with crap so THEY can't work and are in DEBT for specialising in winter Mongolian Basket Weaving instead of ENGINEERING or sciences ,so you are DEFINITELY barking up the WRONG tree until MY ass is a corpse.
Kill ME and mine then maybe the survivors will be spineless enough.
Until then GROW up it's a DEAD movement,we may USE socialism in our programs but if YOU and yours try to implement them or Sharia "murdercall" then I want to meet all of you , them if you REALLY make a mess, the worlds MOST powerful socialist system will notice and stomp commies (AGAIN)

The OP is a poor student of history.

The butchers bill of Communism is nothing to be proud of.

Hitler and the Facists did less damage.

Totalitarian Demagogues help only themselves.

Enemies of the People with Evil in their hearts.

originally posted by: Leftist


You thought correctly! Which is the point of my thread. I'm trying to address those who refuse to see this basic and obvious reality, with a long history behind it. I'm sure a few will be along to join our discussion eventually.

This is just mincing words though, because the current actions of the left today, right now, are very similar to Nazis of yesterday so it really doesn't matter. What matters now is the current behavioral depravity of the left.

In other words, just because Nazis were right wing, doesn't mean that the left today can be fascists and get away with it.

the various 'isms' are and will increasingly be subject to historical revisionism, which may become the most widely subscribed to, if not the most influentual 'ism' of all.