Will the US Military Soon Turn Against Americans?

reply to post by lives

You're sincerely dumb.

Talk is cheap "Oath Keepers"

I will entertain you with a response tonight.

But when you need me later……….

reply to post by seabag


one thing i will give credit to is more and more people are PISSED OFF!!! and when I go to battle I like PISSED OFF!!! and On Edge, it means all the senses are working

Originally posted by lives
reply to post by seabag

 

You're sincerely dumb.

Talk is cheap "Oath Keepers"

Talk may be cheap, but you get change back. Dying is forever, and you get no change at all. A thinking man will think it through and jump when it's prudent to jump.

Fools just rush in, and there aren't any angels treading there to help them.

So WHO is dumb?

Originally posted by nenothtu
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So WHO is dumb?

The person who thinks it would be easier to defeat martial law or a foreign army with 21st century tech than some fruitcake politicians with approval rating in the teens.

reply to post by lives


I missed the part where anyone said any of it was going to be easy. Nothing worth getting is ever easy to get.

reply to post by 1yearning2bfree

I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for our military and organizations such as OathKeepers. It is reassuring to know that they will stand with the American people and not against us, God knows we'll need all the help we can get when tshtf. I have often worried about this possible scenario, as we are all living in extremely perilous and uncertain times as I'm sure we can all agree. One of my concerns is that I have heard persistant rumors that there has been a concerted effort by certain alphabet agencies within the government to "infiltrate" most of our domestic militias to dilute or nullify their effectiveness when things start heating up. Can anyone address this issue?

Homeland Security and FEMA along with CERT's (Citizen Emergency Response Team) have been working side by side with some militia groups. Beware.

But for every militia group that works alongside those types, there is another, in the same area that will not.

The other way they have diluted these groups is by charging people in possession of automatic weapons, when they are not authorized to have one, or felons who have weapons. That or they'll try to convince you to do something stupid and if they do they're probably a fed.

reply to post by nenothtu

I missed the part where anyone said any of it was going to be easy. Nothing worth getting is ever easy to get.

This guy still thinks the new POTUS in January 13’ is going to fix it all!

I hold out hope for Romney, but I don’t think his ‘oath’ is as strong as ours…and like you and the rest of the patriots in America I will pick up the fight when Romney fails or falls short because that’s what we do.

Some people just don’t understand what an oath is…

Originally posted by thehoneycomb

Homeland Security and FEMA along with CERT's (Citizen Emergency Response Team) have been working side by side with some militia groups. Beware.

I don't trust ANYONE that would be willing to work with DHS, which is really sad if you think about it much, because you KNOW that some of US have infiltrated THEM somewhere along the line!

The other way they have diluted these groups is by charging people in possession of automatic weapons, when they are not authorized to have one, or felons who have weapons. That or they'll try to convince you to do something stupid and if they do they're probably a fed.

They use that as a strategy to develop informants and provocateurs inside some groups. "Hey, we've got this on you, but if you play ball, we can make it go away. Now go over there and play with those kids, and tell us what you find. You can get in there, because you're one of them...." So the wiser outfits have been rejecting criminal types out of hand. Who needs that sort of headache, even if the criminal type ISN'T working for the feebs?

reply to post by seabag


I'm not holding out much hope for Romney, either. he made a comment back in 2007 I believe it was on a campaign trip that he "fully supports the second Amendment", then in the same breath said those evil black rifles needed to be re-banned, which told me that either he was lying about his support for the Second, or just plain has no concept of what it says, means, or is for.

Either way, Romney or Obama, I'm pretty sure they'll be feeding us crap sandwiches for lunch!

reply to post by nenothtu


You just really never know, unless you really do side on the side of the Constitution. Thats the only difference really.

reply to post by seabag


US Military has already turned against the American people by taking orders directly from US President to kill/murder any American without any judicial process.

This is called fascism for anyone who cares.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by buster2010

 

There are many in the military that would turn against their commanders for ordering this.

Almost all would….

That is why martial law will be handled by a foreign military.

I agree. That’s why the creeps signed Agenda 21, but it won't work. There aren't enough Blue Hats in the world to accomplish that mission nor enough willing volunteers.

Just look at how many different militaries that are stationed in America at any given time.

Based on my experience there are none other than for training/school. Do you have other info? Please share!

NORAD is a joint Canadian/US base, the Commanding General, changes between a US General and a Canadian General every 2 years.

The Germany Army air defense school and units from Korea are stationed at Fort Bliss, TX.

I was stationed at Fort Bliss for a while and I have seen first hand all the weapons they have. If they wanted to start a war they would no problem doing so. Not to mention the radar base they have in the desert that doesn't appear on any map.

News for you people

They will follow orders, you migjt have a few servicemen that revolt but that will be in the minority

If the SHTF and they are ordered to turn against civilians the vast majority will. They wil,fight to support their comrades and mates. You will just be another Civvy.

To answer this question I look at the likes of Ruby Ridge... And if I had a pound for every video clip I've seen of the US soldiers celebrating when they killed innocent lives, I'd be rich.

The only army people that do care are the veterens, who soon learnt there country didn't give a crap about them.

There will be civil war in America.. The question is when?

Originally posted by rebellender
seabag , do you think there are enough americans to house Americans in arms...I say no, unless they use Military hardware Big stuff I say know....the idea you purpose is fantasy

obviously you know nothing of guerilla warfare do you. all the American people need is a few small, well armed, already trained groups and "We the People" would be able to take certain emplacements, systems, and resources away from them, and use it against them. If (and I really really hope this never happens for the sake of our children) the military decides to go all nazi on us, I think they are in for one hell of an underground war. They think they have it bad in Iraq, or Afgahnistan. My take on this is real simple. I hope our nation never comes to this, but if it does, then one must do what one must.

Never...absolutely never with the Military turn against it's people. Well certain groups...Marines will fight with the people until the end...HooRah!

The US Military are people just like us.. with friends, families, children, hopes, dreams... it's terribly unlikely they will turn on their own..

In fact, if asked to attack their own people .. many, if not most.. would turn on their government first for simply making the request.

Not on my watch...enough said!!

reply to post by seabag


I second that. And to those that think the populace as a whole can't organize into a militia is sorely mistaken, Revolutionary War comes to mind. And for foreign military's training on US soil, we know this happens all the time...... Feeble people not in the know.\

29INFDIV

Do not fret at my accolades, just know I went where others feared to go, to do a job most could never do.

reply to post by Sinny


Don't you know everyone loves their soldiers when they go to fight for them? Then not give a damn when they come home. All us Vets young & old have is each other. BUT we still took an Oath.....


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