Scientists to dive for Baltic Sea "UFO"

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by intrptr

 

That doesn't seem to be quite 200 feet across.

You would also expect the gun barrels to survive as well

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by intrptr

 

That doesn't seem to be quite 200 feet across.

Thats one big gun turret then. Sounds like big fish that got away story to me...

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Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by intrptr

 

That doesn't seem to be quite 200 feet across.

You would also expect the gun barrels to survive as well

What gun barrels? Its a gun turret.

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Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by intrptr

 

That doesn't seem to be quite 200 feet across.

You would also expect the gun barrels to survive as well

What gun barrels? Its a gun turret.

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Silly me after all who would expect a gun turret to have guns

reply to post by wmd_2008


Dennis Åsberg, one of the leaders of the expedition wrote yesterday on their facebook-page:
" Everything is top secret now ... because of the risks ... hope you all understand this is no game. But the truth will be reported shortly."

Rumor has it there will be a press conferance today.

Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by TrueBrit

 

It shouldn't be called "object". I think that's where ot gets people irritated.

I cannot say I agree with your narrow definition of the word object in that case. Dictionary definitions for the word object include the following statement :

Ob-ject
Noun

Anything which is visible and tangible, and relatively stable in form.

Therefore it is not illegitimate to call the anomaly under the Baltic Sea an object, because it is visible, will clearly have mass and therefore be tangible, and one would have to assume that there would be no investigation afoot if the image return was not stable enough to warrant such a thing. Ergo, there is something there to look at, therefore there is indeed, an object.

It could end up being a geologic formation so calling it an "object" is misleading. The biggest reason this could be is because the side-scanning radar has a hard time making a distinction. In several different places I've read that what you see on these types of radars is not usually what you get.

Even if it IS a geological formation, it is still an object because it fulfills the broad definition of that term. If one said "this is clearly a downed craft from the dark side of Kathronicon Five" then THAT statement would be poppycock, but object suits this ...whatever it turns out to be, just fine for now.

I also hate how sensationalist news sites are calling the two unknowns "two discs". That's not just misleading, it's blatant! One of the unknowns shows a circular shape, but it's misshapen. The other is more rectangular. They're taking this and running with it to get people on their site.

I agree. It is ridiculous to start making a mountain out of what may turn out to be a molehill to the degree that it would appear has been gone to. However, the images do bring to mind all sorts of things, and media commentary would be remiss not to make a note of that, although I absolutely agree that there is far to much sensationalism surrounding this story. Even if it turned out being a space craft, or a secret test vehicle or some old thing that no one knew of before, the hype is unprofessional at best, and misleading at worst.

I think there'll be a lot of sour moods once the full information comes out. However, for people in the natural sciences this might be very interesting to them. And then for the archeologists and treasure hunters this could have historical or monetary value. So it could still be worth something.

But worth hundreds of thousands of dollars? Hmm, doubt it! But then again we spend hundreds of millions of dollars on big motion pictures that're not about science but mostly about BS.

edit on 10-6-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)

I think only the zealots and hippy priests of Mars, and the ignorant masses who follow the exploits and beliefs of Greer and Collier and their ilk, will be sour. Reasonable people will just be interested to know what it turned out to be!

reply to post by TrueBrit

I think only the zealots and hippy priests of Mars, and the ignorant masses who follow the exploits and beliefs of Greer and Collier and their ilk, will be sour. Reasonable people will just be interested to know what it turned out to be!

I think the pied pipers and their star struck fawners need a souring via a wake up call. Unfortunately, I was reading about the aftermath from When Prophecy Fails, and the followers who were 'stood up' merely retrenched. For awhile at least, I suppose.

Originally posted by IIILoserIII
reply to post by wmd_2008

 

Dennis Åsberg, one of the leaders of the expedition wrote yesterday on their facebook-page:
" Everything is top secret now ... because of the risks ... hope you all understand this is no game. But the truth will be reported shortly."

Rumor has it there will be a press conferance today.

I dont post often here, but this thread is really exciting. Finally someone with the will and money to check out the hard facts about such a mystery. I wish this could happen more often, as there is so much speculation.

Edit: I guess I found the official facebook page where the team posts mosts of its updates.

This page truthfall.com also quotes from the facebook page.

One more question, can we try to nest the root of the rumor about there being a press conference today? Thanks. I am really looking forward to the time they release more information and pictures.

Don't do it!! It's the coverstone for the Stargate!!!

I expect it to be an extinct volcano or an impact crater... I HOPE it's something more though .

reply to post by wmd_2008

Silly me after all who would expect a gun turret to have guns

Might have been that particular warship was in a battle? Combat damage could disfigure the ship in any number of ways. Sinking and crashing to the ocean floor could dislodge them, you think? The turret is just a shell. Did you read the thread I originally posted in that described the WW1 and WW2 naval action in that region? Ships of the dreadnaught class from that era were sunk near there. The tell is its shape and the "notches" at the front. Where the gun barrels protruded.

Originally posted by IIILoserIII
reply to post by wmd_2008

 

Dennis Åsberg, one of the leaders of the expedition wrote yesterday on their facebook-page:
" Everything is top secret now ... because of the risks ... hope you all understand this is no game. But the truth will be reported shortly."

Rumor has it there will be a press conferance today.

So are we surprised..no announcement?

When Dr. Hawass announced dates twice when we would be given the news of what was in the pyramid shaft.

The tunnels found under the Mexican pyramid had a little rubble blocking it, the sent in a robot and you could see it would take nothing much to clear it...how many years ago was that...was we told what was found there?

The 1000 pound lead coffin, they were going to make an announcement , what was in it??? Two years ago.

Secrets, secrets, secrets!

reply to post by Char-Lee


Quit bitchin. God is your name Char or Charlie?

here is a vid of remote viewers scanning the object.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Quit bitchin. God is your name Char or Charlie?

God if fine thanks.

reply to post by Char-Lee


Haha, sorry. Had a few beers last night, tends to make me "mouthy" sometimes.

reply to post by Char-Lee


The rumor came from one who spoke to one of the divers as they (Ocean X Team) were bunkering fuel on sunday in Norrtalje, Sweden. I'm sorry the rumor wasn't the real thing, but I still believe we will know more before this week is over (as stated on their webpage). But I'm thinking that they have found something they find interesting enough to spend even more money on the expedition. If they found nothing they wouldn't go back out there to collect more data.

Originally posted by IIILoserIII
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

The rumor came from one who spoke to one of the divers as they (Ocean X Team) were bunkering fuel on sunday in Norrtalje, Sweden. I'm sorry the rumor wasn't the real thing, but I still believe we will know more before this week is over (as stated on their webpage). But I'm thinking that they have found something they find interesting enough to spend even more money on the expedition. If they found nothing they wouldn't go back out there to collect more data.

I agree! i live in Finland and these guys are not hoaxers, they have found many old sunken wrecks ,with some cargo with great value over the years,they may not be professional scientists but they are pro at what they are doing which is finding sunken stuff and salvaging it ,so i do not think these guys are doing this just for getting publicity and screwing themselfs over for money! they have found something down there, the big question is what otherwise they wouldnt be interested! personally i start to think that its a building or complex of a sort that doesnt fit the general timeline in our history... oopart so to speak. Damn i hope to hear more news soon

sorry ,double post

reply to post by intrptr

exactly how many battleships ever built had a beam over 60m?, because i can't think of any right now

Originally posted by babylonstew
reply to post by intrptr

 

exactly how many battleships ever built had a beam over 60m?, because i can't think of any right now

Me neither. But what do you suppose that is behind the object in question? Its kind of fuzzy but there it is. The "biggest" beamed ship ever. I even see something on it that looks like turrets? This pic is why I state that its a gun turret. Theres been a lot of threads on this. Do we know for certain yet? Still waiting? Okay....


Lemme know when the fish in the story gets smaller...
I'll admit I was wrong, but so far there is just this claim of "we don't know".