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Originally posted by Lionhearte
This thread summed up in one sentence -
"I don't like it when people use freedom of speech/freedom of religion in a manner I dislike. I say we remove their freedoms."
Oooookay.
*cough* hypocrites *cough*
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by SaturnFX
Dear SaturnFX,
Personally I am against prayer in public schools (I should be able to send my children to a religious school however) and I also think having God on our currency is mocking of God (funny how anyone would claim to be a Christian and want "In God we Trust" on money when it is said that the love of money is the root of all evil). We should be free of those things; but, I should be free to say what I believe in public even if it offends others. My question for you is, if you wish to be free of religion, why do you always post in the forums about it? You could be even freer of religion if you stopped trying to have religious debates.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by Lionhearte
This thread summed up in one sentence -
"I don't like it when people use freedom of speech/freedom of religion in a manner I dislike. I say we remove their freedoms."
Oooookay.
*cough* hypocrites *cough*
No, you don't understand
See, I just want to replace the word God with Allah.
See, this doesn't establish religion in the same way God doesn't establish religion.
Surely everyone is on board with me..its just a meaningless word, right? We can replace it with any word..so, lets use that word for a bit considering all things are equal and the government cannot establish a religion...
[snip]
Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to post by SaturnFX
The separation of church and state issue raised by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to a Baptist church defined it as keeping the state out of the church, not keeping the church out of the state. You would be wise to hope that moral beliefs are guiding our leaders, and that God is watching them when they make their important decisions. You and I are not there in those chambers. Pray that He inspires them to do well for all of us.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
As I understand Allah, he was the one god left over when Muhammed destroyed the other 364 gods. Allah was the god of the Moon. Allah was a vengeful, hateful god who killed nonbelievers, even to this day as we speak.
Not the same god as God in the New Testament. Might want to run a comparison check. I for one would never follow a horrible god like Allah. I like peace and love and forgiveness, not the scimitar to the neck of the people who will not convert.
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by SaturnFX
Dear SaturnFX,
Personally I am against prayer in public schools (I should be able to send my children to a religious school however) and I also think having God on our currency is mocking of God (funny how anyone would claim to be a Christian and want "In God we Trust" on money when it is said that the love of money is the root of all evil). We should be free of those things; but, I should be free to say what I believe in public even if it offends others. My question for you is, if you wish to be free of religion, why do you always post in the forums about it? You could be even freer of religion if you stopped trying to have religious debates.
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by SaturnFX
Dear SaturnFX,
Personally I am against prayer in public schools (I should be able to send my children to a religious school however) and I also think having God on our currency is mocking of God (funny how anyone would claim to be a Christian and want "In God we Trust" on money when it is said that the love of money is the root of all evil). We should be free of those things; but, I should be free to say what I believe in public even if it offends others. My question for you is, if you wish to be free of religion, why do you always post in the forums about it? You could be even freer of religion if you stopped trying to have religious debates.
Our teachers have limited powers to punish students, which results in disruptive classes. Wouldn't a moral climate be better established to begin the class or school day than to cast that lot to let it be whatever it will? Would it not be better to suggest that the students answer to a higher authority for their actions?
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by Jim Scott
Dear Jim Scott,
Our teachers have limited powers to punish students, which results in disruptive classes. Wouldn't a moral climate be better established to begin the class or school day than to cast that lot to let it be whatever it will? Would it not be better to suggest that the students answer to a higher authority for their actions?
I don't trust a civil servant to explain spiritual beliefs to my children. If you wish to establish a moral climate then there are plenty of areas for opportunity. Telling an atheist child who has no choice but to be in a class what he should believe about God will not improve that climate, it will only upset the kid and his parents. I am not in favor of pushing my religious beliefs on anyone against their will. If you get on a thread in the spirituality section then you have chosen to hear spiritual responses. I was forced to go to public school as were most of us. I prefer that they teach evolution over the public schools discussing God at all, that is what church is for.
Originally posted by AQuestion
My question for you is, if you wish to be free of religion, why do you always post in the forums about it? You could be even freer of religion if you stopped trying to have religious debates.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by SaturnFX
Just replace all those religions you named with "secular humanism" and then ask the same question, can I go out in public with my children and not have my whole family inundated with indoctrinating and brainwashing propaganda and absurd advertising.
I saw an ad today that totally blew my mind, and I don't know how they let it stay, but it involves a woman and a cat and some cat food then it shows a woman in bed, on top.....and then shows her and the cat on the sofa after. It's too bizarre and you may think nothing of it, but it is unacceptable nonsense. I may even call the station to complain(and I've never done that ever).
What most don't understand is that, todays flavor is christianity..tomorrow probably will be islam, then after that..who knows...startrekism....
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by SaturnFX
Just replace all those religions you named with "secular humanism" and then ask the same question, can I go out in public with my children and not have my whole family inundated with indoctrinating and brainwashing propaganda and absurd advertising.
I saw an ad today that totally blew my mind, and I don't know how they let it stay, but it involves a woman and a cat and some cat food then it shows a woman in bed, on top.....and then shows her and the cat on the sofa after. It's too bizarre and you may think nothing of it, but it is unacceptable nonsense. I may even call the station to complain(and I've never done that ever).
Thats free market. they don't get my money unless I pay them to..they are not speaking for me..the government is.
and what..you don't like cats? shesh..(more of a dog lover myself actually.)