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Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by SpearMint
Actually what I think is being determined more and more is that previously misunderstood or unidentified fossils were really just bigger versions or older versions of the same animal we have today. 50 foot sharks, alligators and dolphins appear just exactly the way they do today. Same with insects. Two foot wing span dragonflies, cock roaches the size of dinner plates, 3 in" fleas all are the same species without change. The oldest are like ants trapped in amber. Plants haven't changed either. Just less and less species. Over 90 % of all species ever recorded are now extinct. Every life form today has a fossil of its ancestor millions of years old.
We have a fairly accurate fossil record of man's evolution dating back approximately 7 million years when we split off the lineage which has now become today's chimpanzees/bonobos. check the link Spearmint provided above.
Except man. Kind of suddenly showed up in the fossil record. The struggle for proof is to fill those gaps in the record "for a fact". Thats what the 4 trillion reward is for... actual fossil proof of this gap filling fossil. Not a million years between bit of bone "a" and bit of bone "b".
And yet, DNA, the genetic code, (it is "encoded" right?), an egg, a seed, and the magic of the womb, continue from some beginning long ago that we can only see because these things exist. Telling me it is a fact they "evolved" is like telling me a 747 can be designed, tested, built and take of down a runway all by itself.
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by netgamer7k
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by netgamer7k
Until somebody can show us all an animal that produced a different kind of animal, then evolution will stay as a theory and not fact.
How would that be possible, they're long dead because evolution takes a LONG time. Read the links in the last few posts...
What? That's the core concept of the evolution theory. Animals turning into totally different kinds of animals, and since they (the evolution crowd) don't have solid evidence for it, they put this gigantic leap of faith called "millions and millions of years..." between it. What a load of crap! It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, that lightning zapped a rock and out of primordial sludge came man a billions years later. That takes a tremendous, a HUGE amount of faith to believe that absurdity.
Besides, why are all these evolution guys buying into ideas like planet seeding? Since the whole "we came from a rock idea" is falling apart on them, now they're saying aliens did it. That's gonna go real well. Yep.edit on 24-5-2012 by netgamer7k because: (no reason given)
Read those wikipedia articles. There are going to be gaps of millions of years because that's how long it takes!
"That takes a tremendous, a HUGE amount of faith to believe that absurdity. "
A bit like a mystical, invisible being creating life out of nothing with NO evidence. Not even the slightest amount of evidence. How can you even say that....
The origin of life is a whole different subject, that's not what we're talking about.
Originally posted by intrptr
Originally posted by SpearMint
reply to post by intrptr
In no way did we suddenly appear. There are many fossils of primitive man.
Read the link provided in the post above yours, you will learn a lot. The fossils we have discovered are by no means just larger versions of what we have now.
Also, here is a more detailed version of the human evolution timeline.edit on 24-5-2012 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
That time line is a yoke. Throughout it repeats "It is thought" and "appears". Love the hominid "photographs". Did they pose for those? The gaps are self evident. Expecting to convict a criminal in a court of law, is not going to happen if time is missing. A Jury will acquit. And read the post below yours. Theory not fact.
Originally posted by netgamer7k
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by netgamer7k
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by netgamer7k
Until somebody can show us all an animal that produced a different kind of animal, then evolution will stay as a theory and not fact.
How would that be possible, they're long dead because evolution takes a LONG time. Read the links in the last few posts...
What? That's the core concept of the evolution theory. Animals turning into totally different kinds of animals, and since they (the evolution crowd) don't have solid evidence for it, they put this gigantic leap of faith called "millions and millions of years..." between it. What a load of crap! It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, that lightning zapped a rock and out of primordial sludge came man a billions years later. That takes a tremendous, a HUGE amount of faith to believe that absurdity.
Besides, why are all these evolution guys buying into ideas like planet seeding? Since the whole "we came from a rock idea" is falling apart on them, now they're saying aliens did it. That's gonna go real well. Yep.edit on 24-5-2012 by netgamer7k because: (no reason given)
Read those wikipedia articles. There are going to be gaps of millions of years because that's how long it takes!
"That takes a tremendous, a HUGE amount of faith to believe that absurdity. "
A bit like a mystical, invisible being creating life out of nothing with NO evidence. Not even the slightest amount of evidence. How can you even say that....
The origin of life is a whole different subject, that's not what we're talking about.
First of all, the origin of life is directly linked into the evolution theory. Why would you separate the two? They go hand in hand.
Yes, it most definitely does take more faith to believe that everything happened by random chance, and the uniformity of nature (which you assume is already there) happened for no reason at all. Just cold, empty, no reason at all... just is.
As for faith in the infinite, immortal, uncreated, immeasurable, indestructible, undefeatable, and irrecoverable work and presence of the Spirit of God, that is easy to believe. You base what you know by your 5 senses, that as a consequence is going to give you a narrow world view. I believe in the supernatural, things that are there, but cannot be detected by our 5 senses.
Originally posted by intrptr
Originally posted by SpearMint
reply to post by intrptr
In no way did we suddenly appear. There are many fossils of primitive man.
Read the link provided in the post above yours, you will learn a lot. The fossils we have discovered are by no means just larger versions of what we have now.
Also, here is a more detailed version of the human evolution timeline.edit on 24-5-2012 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
That time line is a yoke. Throughout it repeats "It is thought" and "appears". Love the hominid "photographs". Did they pose for those? The gaps are self evident. Expecting to convict a criminal in a court of law, is not going to happen if time is missing. A Jury will acquit. And read the post below yours. Theory not fact.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by 1littlewolf
You're misunderstanding what I say. Or sidestepping it. Or leaving out the good (Genetic code) and picking at the weak links (no pun intended). So like I said go claim your prize with that dude in Turkey.
Its late, good night.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by 1littlewolf
You're misunderstanding what I say. Or sidestepping it. Or leaving out the good (Genetic code) and picking at the weak links (no pun intended). So like I said go claim your prize with that dude in Turkey.
The link Airhumper provides is a theoretical timeline produced by people with as much imagination as religious nut cases that also say, "It just happened".Sorry you confuse me with one of those too. I am not.
Its late, good night.
there are many religions, only one including Atheism can be right
I think I'm arguing with one.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by SpearMint
there are many religions, only one including Atheism can be right
Ok I thought about it and IMO you're wrong. Because religion is of man, evolution is of man, atheism is of man.
But Christ is of the Father.
Why do you keep asking what am I talking about ? I'm using plain english here. Oh and lil buzz word ( ignorant )
is becoming redundant.
Care to keep this up ? Or perhaps you'll at least agree man is a spiritual being ?
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by SpearMint
Like I told others, evolutionaries are like creationists, they both think stuff just happens. You said it yourself. Its a fact (with gaps). Thats the comic comment of the day. So do religious "believers. They say (its a fact) but don't ask us how. Both you all are misguided zealot believers in fantasy.
Its late here, goodnight dinkums.
Of course there are going to be gaps. What we are looking at is the overwhelming evidence that evolution exists when looking at all of the evidence as a whole.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by SpearMint
Like I told others, evolutionaries are like creationists, they both think stuff just happens. You said it yourself. Its a fact (with gaps). Thats the comic comment of the day. So do religious "believers. They say (its a fact) but don't ask us how. Both you all are misguided zealot believers in fantasy.
Its late here, goodnight dinkums.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Of course there are going to be gaps. What we are looking at is the overwhelming evidence that evolution exists when looking at all of the evidence as a whole.
Last one...
Thats what they said at the Casey Anthony trial. Just convict her we know she did it. Sorry, jury didn't buy it.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Of course there are going to be gaps. What we are looking at is the overwhelming evidence that evolution exists when looking at all of the evidence as a whole.
Last one...
Thats what they said at the Casey Anthony trial. Just convict her we know she did it. Sorry, jury didn't buy it.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by SpearMint
The BIG questions is: Does evolution know when to STOP? I kinda like humans with ten fingers n' toes and noses and, well, BOOBS. I like boobs! lol But, if evolution doesn't stop here, then we might look this this in the future:
You most certainly are not using plain English.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by SpearMint
The BIG questions is: Does evolution know when to STOP? I kinda like humans with ten fingers n' toes and noses and, well, BOOBS. I like boobs! lol But, if evolution doesn't stop here, then we might look this this in the future:
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by SpearMint
You most certainly are not using plain English.
Then why do you keep answering in english ? How does that make any sense ?
Any way if you can't comprehend then we're done.
Cheers
I think I'm arguing with one.
What did you expect from this forum ? Everyone sitting around thier video screens singing kum baya ?edit on 24-5-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)