3 NATO Protesters Face Terror Conspiracy Charges

Now let me see ...

9/11, the government attack Afghanistan and Iraq. NATO goes on the fighting bench in Syria and Lybia, and it's confirmed that their "allies" are Al Qaida.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please take note of this .. it is now confirmed that the fighting forces NATO is protecting in both Syria and Lybia, are "Al Qaida".

During the war in Afghanistan, the US government puts into action patriot acts, that basically allow them to arrest anyone without cause. They then increase this, so that any American can be ... and bear in mind, that this is effective INSIDE the US.

All you need now, is troup deployment ready or on the streets ... and after that, I'd love to hear any American claim Mr. Usama Bin Ladin performed 9/11 ... because it sure sounds to me, and looks to me, that the US is fighting it's domestic population rather than "locking out Al Qaida". Al Qaida, which was fighting WITH the british in Afghanistan during the Soviet Union, and taking funds from the US ... sure appear to be taking their orders from US/NATO.

And Al Jazeera ... now there is a TV station, that more than just a teeny weeny looks like a CIA front ... anybody wanna argue that point? ah ha? anyone heh? didn't think so.

So, what do you think is gonna happen in Chicaco ?

Do you think the American People are going to fight the fat pigs that pepperspray women and beat up kids, and go Iraq to sodomize men?

phhhhhhhhheeeewsdfsdfwe ... what a fat chance that is!

Originally posted by detachedindividual

Originally posted by Britguy
I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?

In answer to that question, yes.

The idea is to turn the people against protest...

What the idea is, is to turn people against people. In hitler germany for example, the mass population was entirely and successfully controlled through the manipulation of peoples natural social behavior, I guess mostly likely threw propaganda assaulting everything, everybody, and their mom. The result was people alienating other groups of people. This seems to me to be done by emphasizing a pack mentality. And also seems to be what is happening here in this country, look on any news show and see how the word "terrorist" is used as the most vile thing to call a person, dehumanizing in effect. This is common in war to dehumanize the enemy,... LOL, but what is funny, is that now they are using term to dehumanize americans! LOL Tell me that ain't scary.

reply to post by Britguy


Well, we need some examples to be made.
These three should do fine!
Now the masses will be terrified to even hold a sign!

reply to post by Screwed

These MANIACS have been doing this for a VERY long time. They don't recruit the brightest, smartest minds on the planet...for nothing. Lots and lots of research has gone into keeping people in a HYPNOTIC trance. Television is, as you said it is. People are NOT ALLOWED to THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX!!!! That would go against their RELIGION! And you know what's really scarey.......it's a world wide thing. ANYONE, and i repeat....ANYONE that watches t.v. with consistency, is under HYPNOSIS. These are COLD HARD FACTS....ladies and gentlemen. Afterall, the concept of television was built on.......MONKEY SEE.....MONKEY ___!

ETA: I still don't get WHY people are in Chicago, protesting NATO??? Shouldn't they be protesting the G8??? Aren't our world leaders THE PROBLEM?

Originally posted by g146541
Well, we need some examples to be made.
These three should do fine!
Now the masses will be terrified to even hold a sign!

Masses??

Is that the crowd that was sitting on their butts, watching their fellows being arrested .... like in the 70's ... singing "peace on earth" while they were dragged out, and watched while women were pepper sprayed and beaten. Then yielling "keep calm keep calm, don't fight back ... don't let them trigger you into fighting back".

That what you call the masses?

What's this "masses" gonna do ... fart?

reply to post by bjarneorn


underground word of mouth protest is the only result of these actions. They are actually encouraging terrorism unless they can actually show some sort of evidence. I haven't seen any directions on detailed bomb applications or even the parts of these so called explosive devices anywhere in any of these reports. Looks like justification for fascism for me. This doesn't make me want to protest less...it makes me want to protest more...and more violently and covertly. Unfortunately I have the same issue I think many have. I don't have a target. Even if the government is the problem where would you lash out at that you think would slow the procession of fascism. Without taking the whole thing down at a national level and resetting everything how would any one person or arm of the government being taken down make any difference? If anyone has the answer. Let me hear it because I have none. I have only my energy, rage, and ambition. Yet I have nothing to direct it at.

I bet someone stole their identity and some internet postings/emails that got these 3 people in hot water.

They probably don't even know what's going on in Chitcago.

Yet another manufactured terrorist plot foiled. I just saw this in an MSNBC article and please let me post some of the good bits I found.

MSNBC Source

While friends of the three men insisted they were just operating a home brewery, prosecutors stated that police found a gun that fires mortar rounds, swords, a hunting bow, ninja-like throwing stars and knives with brass knuckle handles. The beer-brewing operation, prosecutors added, was used to fill bottles with gasoline that would later be thrown as Molotov cocktails.

Well how about that? Medieval terrorists. Given enough time surely their plan could have escalated to the making of catapults and trebuchets.

The defense claims however,

told a judge on Saturday that undercover police were the ones who brought the Molotov cocktails, and that their clients were entrapped. It was "entrapment to the highest degree," Deutsch said.

Yet...

But Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy told reporters "the evidence speaks for itself" about what he called an "imminent threat." Chicago Police Department via AP Brent Vincent Betterly "They were making the bombs ... (and had) directions on how to implement this," added Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez.

What's next, kids in the neighborhood with nerf guns? It's getting harder and harder for anti terror agencies in the US to justify their existence.

LMAO

Are people in here actually defending people wanting to commit arson at a "peaceful protest?"

My god. Frigging morons.

Just a quick logic check because maybe there's something I am unaware of. What would be the purpose of putting gasoline in a beer making system? would n't it just be easier to pour gasoline into bottles from a gas can?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Yah people, protest, throw a little FIRE BOMB and nothing should happen... I will guarantee you if you go to this protest with just peaceful intentions you will not be arrested for terrorism... You guys are silly thinking that people have some kinda right to go protest and throw fire bombs.

I live here in Chicago so I'm able to see all this NATO Summit first hand... Tonight all the NATO leaders are going to the Chicago Cubs vs Sox game at Wrigley Field, I was going to go to the game (fan of baseball), but I dont want to deal with the headaches of the added security and road closures on the North Side.. Just imagine all people needing a security pat down before you can take a piss, that doesnt sound like fun... Another thing that worried me was the idea of a terror attack happening at the stadium, just imagine that target to all the enemies of the world, a stadium filled with 38,000 Chicagoans and all the NATO leaders, no thank you, Ill watch the game on tv.... But knowing the direction this country is going in Ill probably be arrested for terror charges for even mentioning that I was worried about the upcoming game...

Thanks Daaskapital,

This is why I love ATS, to get the news stories that never get much national coverage.
The three will need a good lawyer, or they will at a minimum be looking at a felony record, and some time getting anally violated in Federal prison. I'll bet the bomb making materials discovered were some forgotten empty bottles, the gas in their tank, and their dirty laundry.
Has anyone else noticed that most of these "domestic terrorism" cases are either weak, or involve some lone wolf who thinks he is dealing with a terrorist cell, when in fact all the people, materials, money and goading is coming from undercover FBI agents. To bad the secret service did not break this one.

Originally posted by paradox
LMAO

Are people in here actually defending people wanting to commit arson at a "peaceful protest?"

My god. Frigging morons.

Are people in here actually believing whatever they're told without using critical thought nor reviewing both sides of the story, all while happily living with their head in the sand?

My god. Frigging morons.

reply to post by daaskapital


From the prosecutors

In court, prosecutors accused the three men of "preparing for violence and destruction," such as stockpiling Molotov cocktails and other weapons, and planning attacks on police.

From the defense

But the defense called those accusations "propaganda" and contended authorities "infiltrated" a peaceful group and set up the three men.

The truth is likely somwhere in the middle.... If the accusations are true Im glad to see these guys off the streets, if they are being set up its just a VERY unlucky set of circumstances... I guess its hard to give an opinion with so little information out there... Hopefully more details come out soon..

Originally posted by paradox
LMAO

Are people in here actually defending people wanting to commit arson at a "peaceful protest?"

My god. Frigging morons.

No, people are saying this sounds like B.S.

I feel we need to be protected, and I feel people need to be punished when they do wrong. I just don't have that much confidence in my governments ability to do either anymore.

The men’s attorney, Michael Deutsch, accused authorities of entrapment and suggested police targeted the men because of their anti-establishment views

When police raided the apartment Wednesday evening, they recovered four completed Molotov cocktails and weapons including a mortar gun, swords, a hunting bow, throwing stars and knives with brass knuckle handles, according to law-enforcement records. They also possessed protective gear such as pre-positioned shields, assault vests and gas masks to help hide their identity during the planned attacks, prosecutors said.

Church also wanted to buy several assault rifles and indicated that if an officer pointed a gun at him, he planned to be "pointing one back," authorities said.

Court documents indicate authorities most likely have recordings of the men discussing their plans, but the records do not indicate how the audio was obtained. Law-enforcement sources told the Tribune that police had two informants inside the Bridgeport apartment.

On the day of the arrests, the three men and others had detailed conversations about making "numerous" Molotov cocktails by filling empty beer bottles with gasoline and using cut bandannas for wicks, according to court records. Prosecutors said Chase purchased the gas at a nearby BP station and then returned to the flat, where the defendants donned gloves and began making the crude bombs.

www.chicagotribune.com...

I am amazed you people are defending this... Wonder what some of you would say to IRA bombings killing innocent people, i wonder what some of you would say if these guys where going to go fire bomb a tea party protest.

reply to post by Kali74


"Okay now we'll beat your white ass"
Cops can say that? I mean really....
Seems like a threat of bodily harm to me. Does it make it less bad that they said "white" ass? Imo, no. "beat your black/brown ass" would ruffle more feathers.

Definitely seems like a targeted thing since they said they were going to go after them. Bullies.

Edit: of course how silly are you going to look if you piss away tons of taxpayer money and don't foil anything? Better to get a few guys on the record so you can ask for more money next time.

Originally posted by Sek82


Are people in here actually believing whatever they're told without using critical thought nor reviewing both sides of the story, all while happily living with their head in the sand?

My god. Frigging morons.

Yes its all a conspiracy! False flag! False flag!

No one would ever want to start trouble. Oh no!

reply to post by Resurected


Sadly a lot of these people today just believe every "american" terrorist is being setup...