Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Haw

Originally posted by Furbs

And, in the spirit of niceness between us, I will direct you to the post that I made discussing your "Queens and Kapiolani" post.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That's your answer?

But there WASN'T a lack of information! They said, straight out, that they had his original birth certificate. the -only- way for someplace to have the original information is for THEM to be the register of the information. This is how it works. As far as your point that you wanted me to address.. It is not cited, the only link on the page goes to a broken website with no information, and nothing is verifiable. What should I be getting out of it? A detective does shoddy work?

That's not an answer. So, no, you did not answer the question. Your answer said nothing about your own thoughts on why Obama might state that he was born at two different hospitals. Obviously, you've never researched this topic either.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Outkast, you keep asking the same questions when all of the answers have already been provided.

I won't be responding to anyone that doesn't take the time to read or is not up-to-date on the history of the birth certificate issue, so please forgive me for ignoring those of you from now on.

edit on 18-5-2012 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)

You will be ignoring me because you don't have the answers.

You claimed you saw an updated booklet that had the same information in it...me and Furbs both know that you are mis-informed.

We know that what you really mean is that an updated bio was on the website...but you are too stuborn and dishonest to admit that you were wrong.

It was a mistake...you said the wrong thing...but you can't own up to it...you just deflect and dodge.



Every piece of Birther propaganda has been thouroughly debunked...I honestly feel sad for the people that still desperately cling to it as validation of thier illogical pre-determined conclusion.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

So there must be hundreds if not thousands of people involved...and yet they have all kept the secret...amazing.

I really doubt that it took many people at all to have access to remove one week of incoming international flights from the database around the time of Obama birth. Perhaps only a few. The one who gave the orders and the ones who did the deed. Don't you think it is strange that for some reason this week happened to be missing? Perhaps it was a fluke, but if not, it sure points to a monumental effort to make clear the path for the power's that be chosen one.

Oh, and the part about how amazing it is that secret is being kept - the mob likes to hold guns to peoples heads.

Obama is a fraud no matter how many will come to this thread and make excuses much like the last 3 and half years the same tried and failed:

It's someone else's fault!!!!

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

So there must be hundreds if not thousands of people involved...and yet they have all kept the secret...amazing.

I really doubt that it took many people at all to have access to remove one week of incoming international flights from the database around the time of Obama birth. Perhaps only a few. The one who gave the orders and the ones who did the deed. Don't you think it is strange that for some reason this week happened to be missing? Perhaps it was a fluke, but if not, it sure points to a monumental effort to make clear the path for the power's that be chosen one.

Oh, and the part about how amazing it is that secret is being kept - the mob likes to hold guns to peoples heads.

But it's not just the flight records...it is the entire Hawaiian government...it is the Illinois government...and now it is a large chunk of the federal government...it is also an entire Hospitals medical record department...it is all of Obama's family and friends, it is the people that birthers claim created a fake birth certificate, the person birthers claim Obama stole a SSN from and that person family, everyone Obama went to college with because birhters are now claiming he stated he was born in Kenya all the way up to 2007.

It is at least hundreds of people...more likely thousands of people if what birthers claim is true.


So you have this grand conspiracy going back to his birth...a conspiracy to hoax his birht in Hawaii so he can be a natural born citizen so he can become POTUS...but somehow in college Obama himself (according to this new thread) dropped the ball and started telling his agent he was born in Kenya and birthers also claimed he got foreign aid...and then sometime after that...he picked up the hoax again and started again saying he was born in Hawaii. AND Obama and his people are threatening to kill anyone who speaks of this secret.

OR

He was actually born in Hawaii.



Yeah...it doesn't take a genius.

Originally posted by neo96
Obama is a fraud no matter how many will come to this thread and make excuses much like the last 3 and half years the same tried and failed:

It's someone else's fault!!!!

Prove he is a fraud.

Just saying it doesn't make it true.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

Every piece of Birther propaganda has been thouroughly debunked.

Yeah, like the pica stamp and his birth certificate. I wonder if anyone believes you at all? You are tossing your credibility in the trash.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Prove he's an "honest politician"!

Go on.

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Every piece of Birther propaganda has been thouroughly debunked.

Yeah, like the pica stamp and his birth certificate. I wonder if anyone believes you at all? You are tossing your credibility in the trash.

Oh yes...I forgot that there was only one stamp in existence that was used for every single document in every single area in every single time period

The fact that you take this as proof should show you how desperate you are.


And many people have demonstrated how you can get layers in a scanned document...but yet birthers cling to "LAYERS LAYERS".


I don't have credibility...I'm an avatar on a message board....funny that you think anonymous people on the internet have credibility.

All I have are my words and logic.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Prove he's an "honest politician"!

Go on.

I never claimed he was...did I?

You made the claim...don't try to slither out of your burden of proof.

If you don't like proving things...maybe you should stop making baseless claims.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Oh like Palin cheating on her husband and snorting censored ?

Like that?

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Oh like Palin cheating on her husband and and snorting censored ?

Like that?

I'm sorry I offended you by making a thread on a news article about your fantasy girl.

It's hilarious that you keep bringing this up.

Care to get back on topic...or are you going to cry some more about poor little Sara?

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

So there must be hundreds if not thousands of people involved...and yet they have all kept the secret...amazing.

I really doubt that it took many people at all to have access to remove one week of incoming international flights from the database around the time of Obama birth. Perhaps only a few. The one who gave the orders and the ones who did the deed. Don't you think it is strange that for some reason this week happened to be missing? Perhaps it was a fluke, but if not, it sure points to a monumental effort to make clear the path for the power's that be chosen one.

Oh, and the part about how amazing it is that secret is being kept - the mob likes to hold guns to peoples heads.

But it's not just the flight records...it is the entire Hawaiian government...it is the Illinois government...and now it is a large chunk of the federal government...it is also an entire Hospitals medical record department...it is all of Obama's family and friends, it is the people that birthers claim created a fake birth certificate, the person birthers claim Obama stole a SSN from and that person family, everyone Obama went to college with because birhters are now claiming he stated he was born in Kenya all the way up to 2007.

It is at least hundreds of people...more likely thousands of people if what birthers claim is true.


So you have this grand conspiracy going back to his birth...a conspiracy to hoax his birht in Hawaii so he can be a natural born citizen so he can become POTUS...but somehow in college Obama himself (according to this new thread) dropped the ball and started telling his agent he was born in Kenya and birthers also claimed he got foreign aid...and then sometime after that...he picked up the hoax again and started again saying he was born in Hawaii. AND Obama and his people are threatening to kill anyone who speaks of this secret.

OR

He was actually born in Hawaii.



Yeah...it doesn't take a genius.

edit on 18-5-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)

You mean like the JFK assassination??


I just found this so I guess it was another "mistake"

it wouldn't be the first time it's happened

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


I said prove he was an honest politiician

you said and i quote:

I never claimed he was...did I?

Which means he is a liar from your own words there is your proof.

It's brought up for the simple fact it shows hypocrisy

Yours.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


One former state Hawaii employee signed a sworn affidavit that no long form birth certificate exists.

www.presidentialfield.com...

Why don't you prove him wrong?

Why has the Arizona Secretary of State been waiting 8 weeks to get an email confirming that the Hawaii Department of Health has Obama's Birth Certificate? Could someone be afraid of lying to a SOS now that this guy has stuck his neck out and claimed the contrary to be true? I would be.

reply to post by thedigirati

You mean like the JFK assassination??

it wouldn't be the first time it's happened

This conspiracy that Birthers have dreamed up is decades long and would involve multiple governments and agencies along with private organizations.

It is not on the scale of the JFK assassination.

I would think you would agree with that.

Originally posted by mwood
It does not matter where he was born at this point. They (whoever they are) have bypassed the Constitution and set a precedent that may change the future of our laws forever.

People who believe he is greater than sliced bread will not accept that he was here illegally and should have not been qualified to run for President of the USA. Hell, some of his supporters have told me they DON"T CARE where he is from or if he is here legally because he is the best president this country has ever had.
If that's not delusional I don't know what is.........

That Constitutional requirement was put there to be sure no people that had foreign birth / loyalties could be elected to run this country and subsequently run it into the ground intentionally.
That day has passed long ago and my opinion, he is doing one hell of a job proving the framers right for putting those requirements in there.

I believe it should be investigated and if proved he was not eligible he should be charged with treason, espionage and prosecute to the full extent of the law. Find him a nice room at GITMO.

Imagine what national secrets / top secrets he is privy to being the president. The most successful foreign spy in the history of the US.

I wouldn't be beyond tossing a rope in the nearest tall tree but that would be too fast and merciful.

And if can be PROVEN he is innocent then so be it.

edit on 17-5-2012 by mwood because: (no reason given)

edit on 17-5-2012 by mwood because: (no reason given)

First of all the lynching days are over.

Secondly, threatening the POTUS will get you a friendly visit from men with suits and guns in no time.

Thirdly, if the GOP was too stupid to find out that Obama was foreign born then we certainly have the better option at the helm now.

reply to post by neo96

I said prove he was an honest politiician

you said and i quote:

I never claimed he was...did I?

Which means he is a liar from your own words there is your proof.

It's brought up for the simple fact it shows hypocrisy

Yours.

Wow...you should take some basic logic and reasoning classes.

No, I didn't claim he was an "honest politician"...I would have to have a very close relationship with Obama to be able to make such a claim...and I don't have that.

Now, just because I don't have enough information to confidently make a claim that I know I could logically back up does not mean that I think he is or making a claim that he is a liar.

This is what we call a False Delemma...black and white thinking...you seem to think that someone must either claim he is a liar or he is honest...and that is a logical fallacy.


You are showing your intellecutal dishonesty and your lack of logical skills...please stop...I feel sorry for you.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Someone who is honest doesn't lie rather simple and yep there is some intellectual dishonesty here.

Thanks

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
One former state Hawaii employee signed a sworn affidavit that no long form birth certificate exists.

www.presidentialfield.com...

Why don't you prove him wrong?

It has already been shown that he had no access to birth records... why ignore that?
www.thefogbow.com...

As you can see in the affidavit, Adams' story changed in several ways over the seven months since he told it to the white supremacist radio hosts. By January 2011, it turns out that Adams was only a senior elections clerk, not the chief elections clerk. He adds that no Honolulu hospital has any record of President Obama's birth, and he says he worked "through September 2008," not that he left in August. Most important, he now makes clear that he is relating double hearsay: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division (in other words, local officials) further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires [sic] about Sen. Obama's birth records ..."

Why has the Arizona Secretary of State been waiting 8 weeks to get an email confirming that the Hawaii Department of Health has Obama's Birth Certificate?

Sure about that? Is an email the right way to access that information from Hawaii?