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Originally posted by MarksThoughts
Let me be the first to explain a little about the reality of life. There actually ARE masses of people committed to the death of America and the American way of life - I've met them on more than one occasion overseas.
The whole economy of the West (and any other nation that is to some extent developed) does, in fact, run on oil and its derivatives.
I don't 'buy into' the conspiracy crap about flouride, the food supply, or vaccines. Companies exist to provide products for consumers, if they are too uneducated or unwilling to educate themselves to proper diet, exercise and similar it is their fault - the government is only tangentially involved with what it can regulate.
Wake up and see the world for what it is - highly dangerous, but filled with the promise of much better for our posterity. It is not enough to know that there are bad actors, you have to take a stand and fight them where they are. Attack the oil companies, the power companies, and those who make our life better and you are part of the problem. If you don't like how things are come up with a real alternative. Turning off the lights is not an option. No vaccinations, allowing horrible diseases like small pox to rampant, is not an option.
What I hear when people talk like you do is that they are seeking the simple answer - oh, it must be some grand scheme to oppress the people. Sometimes it is. It is far more difficult to actually resolve our economic issues, our cultural issues, our issues with food, air, and water, than to just blame it on some hidden, monolithic group.
My eyes are open. I want my children and grandchildren to have heat and airconditioning, fresh foods and clean air. I don't want the oppression offered by the Left, Sharia Law, or any other failed system that leads directly to totalitarianism. I will fight, all my life if necessary, for the ideals expressed in our Declaration of Independence and enshrined in our constitution.
In short - go to Hell.
Originally posted by guitarist
reply to post by artistpoet
NOOOO. You're kidding. have you ever heard of sarcasm ?
Originally posted by hawkiye
Ok I am sure some mod will see the title and be wondering why this is here in general conspiracies and thinking they should move it but bear with me and read on you will understand why it is here.
In a nutshell the majority of people are pretty much dutifully going through the motions of their lives oblivious to the complete lie they are living. They believe they are free and most of their leaders generally are looking out for them despite a few bad apples.
So they dutifully march to the election booths every couple years and re-elect most of the same folks or so they think. They don't believe vote fraud is wide spread. They believe they are sending their children and families off to fight for their country and freedom, they think fluoride and vaccines are protecting them.
They see nothing wrong with their food supply the FDA is looking out for them in their minds despite factory farms poisoning their food and GMOs becoming more prevalent and destroying the environment. They believe their doctors are health care experts and pretty much do what ever their doctors tell them they must without question. They believe if we just have more regulation the banksters would not be able to rip us off...
They dutifully repeat propaganda they have been fed all their lives on just about any subject without ever having really looked at the research or evidence.
Originally posted by Wolfenz
Zombies lol
The American Government has been doing this to People for Decades
Stopping Our Minds from Expanding Great Ideas in certain location in the US !
Stopping that Pineal Gland from putting us in that Inventive Dream State ...& Remembering
let alone other effects
The Word !! Fluoride
yes the Government is Dumbing Down the Population Mentally and Physically in certain locations in the US
Making Minor Zombies !
Originally posted by hawkiye
Ok I am sure some mod will see the title and be wondering why this is here in general conspiracies and thinking they should move it but bear with me and read on you will understand why it is here.
In a nutshell the majority of people are pretty much dutifully going through the motions of their lives oblivious to the complete lie they are living. They believe they are free and most of their leaders generally are looking out for them despite a few bad apples.
So they dutifully march to the election booths every couple years and re-elect most of the same folks or so they think. They don't believe vote fraud is wide spread. They believe they are sending their children and families off to fight for their country and freedom, they think fluoride and vaccines are protecting them.
They see nothing wrong with their food supply the FDA is looking out for them in their minds despite factory farms poisoning their food and GMOs becoming more prevalent and destroying the environment. They believe their doctors are health care experts and pretty much do what ever their doctors tell them they must without question. They believe if we just have more regulation the banksters would not be able to rip us off...
They dutifully repeat propaganda they have been fed all their lives on just about any subject without ever having really looked at the research or evidence.
They believe we could not live without oil and that terrorist are hiding around every corner waiting to kill us so dutifully obey the patriot act and other anti-freedom legislation and allow their children and wives to be molested at airports because they believe it keeps us secure.
When confronted they generally don't want to hear it or react angrily claiming one is a crack pot for saying anything like that. They are not interested in facts and evidence they just put a wall up and or repeat media rhetoric.
I am sure you all can add a lot more things to the list and feel free if you like.
Now don't worry if you do not agree with everything I wrote this thread is not about arguing which conspiracies are real and which are not we can agree to disagree on the details. The point is the big picture the over all conspiracy so to speak. Those of us who realize most of what is believed by society is a lie we are the survivors so to speak of the Zombie Apocalypse and we are surrounded by Zombies and our lives are in peril because of it.
If you watched any zombie flick like Dawn of the Dead or the series Walking Dead (highly recommend it) herds of zombies are walking around consuming any flesh they can find destroying anything in their path. And a few pockets of survivors are trying to avoid them and find a place free of them or fortified against them. These zombies have no minds their brain stems are just functioning enough for them to do this.
This is not unlike us here who see all the lies and watch the herds dutifully destroy our freedoms and go along with the lies and will not hear anything contrary that disrupts their status quo. They do not know they are destroying their own world.
Is this not the definition of Zombies? Are we not fighting for our lives and freedom against these herds so to speak? Now this is not meant to incite hatred or derogatory feeling toward the herds of society although I admit it will to some degree but remember we were all once Zombies. However it does put things in perspective and how serious things are. We are in the Zombie Apocalypse and what is happening will change our world forever for good or bad the choice is ours!
The good news in our Zombie Apocalypse unlike in the movies is there is a cure and many are being cured but still we are surrounded and fighting for our lives outnumbered and over run for the most part. Perhaps we should start thinking more in terms of creating pockets of fortifications? Micro societies of awake people working to create models for a future more sustainable society? What are your thoughts on solutions?
edit on 12-5-2012 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)
I really liked your thread. I told my dad & sister about fluoride in toothpaste and they ganged up on me, told me that I was stupid to stop using fluoride toothpaste as my teeth would go bad without it (I use a low concentrate toothpaste as I can't afford non fluoride toothpaste). I'm trying to wake-up my family but it looks like they want to be stuck in the matrix. It is true that when your awake you can see what's been hidden from your eyes for so long. I don't know what's real and fake nowdays as more disinformation is pouring into the system. In my view I feel that things happen for a reason and karma will balance the positive and negative. We just have to stand our ground and protect one another. x
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, you'll see a banana hanging on a string with a set of stairs placed under it. Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, all of the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water.
After a while, another monkey makes an attempt to obtain the banana. As soon as his foot touches the stairs, all of the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. It's not long before all of the other monkeys try to prevent any monkey from climbing the stairs.
Now, put away the cold water, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him as he makes his way toward the stairs. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.
Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.
Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.
After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.