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What Does Alex Jones and Jim Jones Have In Common?

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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Besides the last name, being the same, was wondering, what else, if anything, those who know of both, might find or have to say, etc.

At this time, will reserve my comments and just wanted to leave it open to discussion and comments.

Will say that I am a listener and follower of Alex Jones and have been for years and have researched Jim Jones and his followers tragedy.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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They both lead the masses by claiming to have higher knowledge or insight.

They both sipped their own kool aid.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Did not think Jim Jones drank from the same cooler of koolaid...that some of the followers were given...thought they claimed Jim Jones shot himself, however believe there is some evidence that suggest otherwise...

Alex does not seem to be as high on drugs, like Jim was, although that tangy tangerine is starting to sound pretty tasty...




posted on May, 9 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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The last name Jones?

ETA: Picture removed for the Gentle Readers.
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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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What if you only knew the truth and that debunking the smears and trolls was the goal


No AJ is not paying me to shill for him, and Jim Jones for sure not got me in his pocket.




posted on May, 9 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by earthinhabitant
reply to post by burntheships
 


What if you only knew the truth and that debunking the smears and trolls was the goal




Ok, well I am all good with that.
You maybe want to help the reader understand, and add a related thread,
in the OP that you are responding to? Gentle suggestion...
so as the gentle reader does not confuse you with Alex Jones Clips.


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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by earthinhabitant
reply to post by burntheships
 


What if you only knew the truth and that debunking the smears and trolls was the goal




Ok, well I am all good with that.
You maybe want to help the reader understand, and add a related thread,
in the OP that you are responding to? Gentle suggestion...
so as the gentle reader does not confuse you with Alex Jones Clips.


edit on 9-5-2012 by burntheships because: (no reason given)


Not saying that have sometimes issues with what AJ says and does, as noted others have as well, as really he does do a great job, just when you hear him patting himself on the back so much and pumping up and while we relate to what he is going through and noticed he has been doing better over the years, with controlling himself, think lately he getting hopped up on tangy tangerine and like him better than when it was coca cola drinks and coffee, however he still does at time make me a little nauseous, and it is always the same thing he does or says more or less, as I think he listened to Rush and Beck or others that he is patterning a little, and now with all his constant, they are coming for me and their going to kill me and I know it, I don't care, speaches, starting to sound more like Jim Jones...as not saying Jim Jones did not see it coming too, and as prophetic as Alex is would not be shocked if something did happen to him and it resembled jonestown, like the Alex Jones social network he is pushing could be a great honeypot, or not, as his site is and he admits it is, to some extent...as Turner turned out to be, doubt if Alex is on the take, however who knows these days, Jim Jones was involved with some people who handled him and wondering if Alex has anyone there who is his handler, and using AJ as tool to draw in the masses and then once identified, make the move on them and massacre them and him and call it a cult suicide when we all will know it was not, however the masses will buy it and keep on buying what they are selling...

Alex is starting to take a more humorous tone it seems, something not sure Jim Jones joked much at all...
As taking Alex Serious at times is hard, when he is laughing at things that in itself, is not funny...
so could he be just conditioning us to laugh about it with his sarcasm and jokes...
yes is my guess..

I am trying to remain neutral and look at both without bias, while not a smear campaign and hope is AJ will start getting serious and stop joking around and acting like a know it all, so much, as other than that love his show and jones for it every day



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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I think that the common thread is yet to come. By that I mean that I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Jones dies unexpectantly and then conspiracy theories abound as to the cause of his death. Likewise, the demise of Jim Jones and his loyal followers is still shrouded in much mystery. There are a number of plausible theories about US gov't involvement in the Jones-town massacre - ala Koresh / Waco but without the TV crew cameras.

I use to enjoy the Alex Jones' rants but now there is something about him that doesn't seem quite right. I think he has sold out at some point along his boisterous journey.

Peace Out



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 05:36 AM
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mmmm, let's see.

Both are unattractive, mouthy, homophobic, painfully insecure, and in need of perpetual ego reinforcement.
Both had to shell out BIG $$$ for hookers.
Both sucked YOU into their trip.

heheee



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 07:23 AM
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Yea, I can see something like that happening....



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 07:27 AM
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Alex had woken up MILLIONS of sleepy sheepies who are now fans of the search for the facts

of course the jones haters hate that
HATE THAT!
which explains all the CHILDISH IDIOTIC put downs

JIM jones has no fans atall
like the jones haters

the question should be:
what does jim jones and alex jones haters have in common?
a thirst for fukushima cool aid


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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by Star128
mmmm, let's see.

Both are unattractive, mouthy, homophobic, painfully insecure, and in need of perpetual ego reinforcement.
Both had to shell out BIG $$$ for hookers.
Both sucked YOU into their trip.

heheee


Did not ever imagine the looks remarks comparison between the two...as I listen now more to his show then watch, so don't see him that often live on the air...

Would say he is and was Charlie Sheen's motivator coach or they have the same coach, with all the "winning" egocentric maniac comments, as seems like Jim Jones, did some rant and raving like that too, besides saying on one hand, I am nothing, then on the other hand, I am everything, don't you all get it...remarks from Alex is a little bewildering at times to hear anyone claim both, as humble one minute and pampas the next...do not listen to Rush anymore and hope Alex is not trying to be more like him, as that is a thread, what does Rush and Alex have in common...

Just listening to him talk about the social network he is creating for last few years and saying how it crashed before and all the understaffed and can't do it all and then what he say's he is paying for servers and some of the things he says, have doubt they are really true or possible, and if they are, then there is great cause for concern, as either way does not make sense, for example.

The other day, last week, he was saying he was somewhere and two people came up to him and told him they met on his social site, that he even admits was unusual and I too wondering maybe someone trying to just toy with him and set him up to create social network, to help them target dissenters, who are on the site, by using their social information, as a honeypot and AJ not even know, as Jim Jones, may have been lead to do by hands that guided him, unknowingly possibly, so would say that, really think Alex is legit and intentions are good..

With Jim Jones,seems like he practiced deceptive and brainwashing tactics to gather his cult following and Jim Jones intentions were bad from the start to the end and Alex Jones, from start to the end, have been good.
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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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besides being charismatic and able to be on the podium, so to speak, nothing in common at all from what i can tell.

jim jones was mentally ill and didn't mind seeing people get hurt for his cause. AJ doesn't want to see anyone get hurt and doesn't condone violence from what i have listened to.

AJ is like an information machine, like the raw data collector and assembler. take the data and research it for what it is or isn't. i know i heard him say many times his info isn't always correct and people should research for themselves.



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by Star128
mmmm, let's see.

Both are unattractive, mouthy, homophobic, painfully insecure, and in need of perpetual ego reinforcement.
Both had to shell out BIG $$$ for hookers.
Both sucked YOU into their trip.

heheee


you got less references than the victim you swipe at

have fun at the cat house



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by Danbones
Alex had woken up MILLIONS of sleepy sheepies who are now fans of the search for the facts

of course the jones haters hate that
HATE THAT!
which explains all the CHILDISH IDIOTIC put downs

JIM jones has no fans atall
like the jones haters

the question should be:
what does jim jones and alex jones haters have in common?
a thirst for fukushima cool aid


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Yea, I must admit the haters of Alex, really must have some agenda besides the truth, those of Jim Jones, were for acts he committed, as though Jim Jones was admired by his followers and their were not any haters, until after the massacre, when it became more widespread knowledge of what Jim Jones was up to and had done.

Alex on the other hand has made it clear what his agenda is and the globalist empire group and I would say Alex would take death over dishonor, Jim Jones could maybe say the same about, however Jim Jones seemed to practice dishonor and deceit in his teachings...

I compare Alex Jones more to someone like David Koresh, who believes in what he teaches and in his heart is following the truth and teaching, where Jim Jones, in his heart and mind, knew he was a sham from day 1 and when his gig was up, what the plan was to be and taught.



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
besides being charismatic and able to be on the podium, so to speak, nothing in common at all from what i can tell.

jim jones was mentally ill and didn't mind seeing people get hurt for his cause. AJ doesn't want to see anyone get hurt and doesn't condone violence from what i have listened to.

AJ is like an information machine, like the raw data collector and assembler. take the data and research it for what it is or isn't. i know i heard him say many times his info isn't always correct and people should research for themselves.


Jim Jones was from what I understand had a drug problem, that fueled his demeanor and mindset to some extent, is what I feel, pure scam from day 1 in his ministries...to the last day.

Yea, AJ is for the truth and remove the masks of deception at any costs, tell it like it is and no powder or sugar coating it, for easy digestion...in your face, like it or leave it, if you can't handle the truth, then you need to look for another life, and go curl up under the rock and die, spine up and be man or woman who is for righteousness and purity in a sincere fashion, if you can get through some of his sarcasm and cynicism is what I find.

I could see Alex running for office some day, maybe Governor of Texas first like Bushbag did, then on to the whitehouse with Jesse V and the Pauls and those that are ready to take the Country or State back and be a strong leader who's action in the political world would be of great significance and become a hero to not only the United States, or Texas, to al the people that have seen what has become by letting these tyrants and crooks run the show...as he might be a hardliner in lot of ways, however could see in a role that would be fitting to all of humanity, maybe Attorney General or something like that, as from what have seen, Alex out qualifies them all, then retire as a Supreme Court Justice, would be nice!



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Star128
mmmm, let's see.
Both had to shell out BIG $$
heheee


Some proof of that?

Now i am no alex jones fanboy
but that is almost libal..



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by Star128
mmmm, let's see.
Both had to shell out BIG $$
heheee


Some proof of that?

Now i am no alex jones fanboy
but that is almost libal..


thanks, I knew I forgot to respond to and cover a few points and that was the one shocker, as did not think Alex or Jim fancied hookers or escorts, as their was a smear by some that had an agenda that was not ever really publicized in the Jonestown situation, CIA connections obviously known now, were part of Jim Jones organization and puppeteers what seems to be it all, with Jim Jones, believing lot of what he may have been saying and not just all cohearsed, as mind control obviously was previously there int he Shalom Project and the purchase of the property by Intelligence Operatives for Jim, who knew what was up and Dwyer and the rest of the cast of characters, and then the trigger detonator event, that just clearly shows the whole inside story of who and what had their hands molding it out before, during and after..

Does Alex have a mole in his midst, or anyone like Jim Jones did?

On the sex allegations, find that very, very unlikely, unless Charlie Sheen hooked him up when he was out in Cali and maybe got him drunk and then posed for some pics to exhort him to be quiet about the vatican connection...speculative all and not really seen anything to show either to be true...plausible none the less


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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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What has Alex Jones got to do with Jim Jones, apart from the same surname?
Unless I'm missing something.
I still don't get what this thread is about.
The two are unrelated.



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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They have in common that they are both stooges and con men.




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