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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by mzungu
Please explain your statement Energy Density as well as Material Density.
Which Material and since Energy is either Electrons, Photons or Kinetic Transfer...and kinetic Transfer includes Particle Bombardment....I am not seeing where this applies to the UFT.
Also as far as Material...how are you quantifying Density as it applies to the Quantum?
Most people do not realize that when I slam my fist down on a table...the Materials and Atoms Nucleuses of that material never actually comes in contact with one another. The Electron Orbits prevent any particle of Mass from touching as the Electrons Orbits of the Atoms nucleus repel one anothers Electron Orbits and thus Protons and Netrons never collide unless we are using a Particle Accellerator or using Fusion or Fission.
The Density of a Material in conventional sense is which ever Element has a Higher Relative Mass....will be denser based on temp. as well as in the case of Gases...temp and pressure. There is also things like Bucky Balls that may not have the density Gold Has but are Structuraly Perfect and are virtually indestructable in their Matrix.
Still...I do not see how this relates to the UFT as how does this relate to the Quantum aspect?
Split Infinity
Originally posted by mzungu
you point out that e.u. theory "acknowledges that the forces that really create and move the universe are 'ethereal' in nature: magnetic/electric/wave/field thingy, not "particle exchange". this is a contradiction of terms and if this were so it wouldn't be electric universe theory. e.u. theory, from the little i have read, (again no scientific papers exist on the subject), is not conclusive.
the concept of positive and negative prevades perspective, not just on the sub-atomic or electromagnetic levels, but also the real life world views held by an individual. it boils down to the idea of wrong and right being definitive states of being, when in my model such states are only representative of patterns of energy transfer and vibration. i.e. there is no wrong/right/up/down/left/right/positive/negative without the reference point of one to the other. you can't be right if there is no wrong, there cannot be a positive force without a negative etc.
if you want to give this theory a tag line or define as a certain 'type' of theory, then many labels may fit; "aether theory", "unified field theory", even "acoustical resonance theory" could be applied to the model, with varying degrees of relativity. at the end of the day though, such labels only create divisions in understanding, depending on one's preconceptions.
I am not sure i get what you mean here, but i am listening, if you care to explain a bit more.
perhaps, but names give shape to ideas and helps us to organize them in our minds.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
[Since we have this HUGE GAPING HOLE in our model that is Quantum Mechanics.
Originally posted by mzungu
this model does not agree with the assumption that mass has to be calculated by the number of protons and neutrons, i thought i had made that clear...
Originally posted by galactix
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
[Since we have this HUGE GAPING HOLE in our model that is Quantum Mechanics.
Without getting in to the complexities inherent in the detailed description of quantum behavior, nor the 'weirdness' and 'magik' that many ascribe to 'quantum physics', at it's most basic level, "Quantum Mechanics" acknowledges that at some small scale, forces and energies are no longer 'smooth'. That these forces and energies change in 'steps' or 'quantum' levels.
This fact was particularly astonishing to mathematicians and natural philosophers who had observed the 'macro' world changing continuously, without 'steps'. In fact the calculus *depends* upon a smooth function to be valid: they could no longer use their favorite descriptive tool...
But i see 'quantum' behavior in many places: the shifting of acoustic sand patterns, step wise non linearity in specific heats, the sort of 'locking' that occurs when two vibrating bodies come in to resonance and the 'steps' associated with each transition in to and out of high order frequencies.
i suspect that what is less correct are the two pervading assumptions in modern science: over all homogeneity and 'continuous' functions being the 'normal' state of things.
Originally posted by mzungu
exactly, which is why one must very careful about which words one chooses to use =)
nice. i liked the short segment.
When she was speaking of the act of saying "i love you", talking about the word as a punctuated collection of vibrations leaving her, travelling thru air then entering the other further causing a series of interactions that result in (sometimes) understanding but almost always "feelings".
The description sound so 'particle' like to me... lol: the words as carrier for the 'idea' of love.
My description of the same event would be different. I see the act of vocalization a necessary *expression* of the idea that is a feeling. The moment one does say or will say (assuming a genuine interaction , of course) "i love u" is the result of a 'pressure' a sort of... gradient of emotion. The 'wave top' that appears as an 'electron' leaps off of one surface on to another because a field gradient exists: field, then energy flow.
emotion... then verbalization: the word is a peak in the energy exchange illuminating the reality of the connection.
love is a pathway
Originally posted by mzungu
what if love/hate is just the polarisation effect of vibrating matter?
The proper way to scale an Ant to a Human for the purpose of example...and by the way...when done properly it does NOT help your arguement or concept...is to use COMPARATIVE MASS. If an Ant is given the same MASS as a HUMAN then the ANT would be much LARGER in Cubic Volume than a Human.
When taking this into account...an Ant with the same Mass as a Human Being....would be not only Greater in SIZE but also it's legs would be also larger and structurely sound to be easily able to allow the Ant to move and also be able to pick up heavy objects than itself just as it does when it is small. However...since an ANT does not have LUNGS and absorbs Air through tiny and multiple in number...BREATHING HOLES around the body...an Ant could never exist to be of this mass as LUNGS are a necessity for growth of an animal that is larger than an Area about equal to the size of a Childs Hand.
Originally posted by galactix
Originally posted by mzungu
what if love/hate is just the polarisation effect of vibrating matter?
i think it is the other way around: polarization being an effect.
entropy does imply direction
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by mzungu
I did not miss the point. You stated and I quote....
the argument this model makes is that multiple universes are not necessary for the creation nor behaviour of these quantum particles, they are a byproduct of forces similar to those which drive larger, stable energy structures, only on a much smaller scale. if you scale an ant up to size of a human, it wouldn't still be able to carry several times its own body weight, in fact its legs would buckle from its body weight alone. in a similar fashion, if you scale down the known forces of interacting energy pressures, the results will differ according to relative scale of observation
You were using an incorrect assumption and you used an impossible analogy to describe your stated model and in your last line of what I quoted you saying....I disproved this by describing in my post what the reality of a true scaled Mass of an Ant to the Mass of a Human in that the ratio does not describe or show or prove any difference in interacting of supposed energy pressures that will cause a differing result using the proper Analogy Ratio.
The Ant would be Larger in Area if scaled to a Humans Mass but it would still be able to act as it could if it was tiny as long as the ratio is dierected to Mass. Size Ratios will give you no logical analogy and thus you have to throw out that analogy. Split Infinity
The earliest versions of quantum mechanics were formulated in the first decade of the 20th century. At around the same time, the atomic theory and the corpuscular theory of light (as updated by Einstein) first came to be widely accepted as scientific fact; these latter theories can be viewed as quantum theories of matter and electromagnetic radiation, respectively. Early quantum theory was significantly reformulated in the mid-1920s by Werner Heisenberg, Max Born, Wolfgang Pauli and their collaborators, and the Copenhagen interpretation of Niels Bohr became widely accepted. By 1930, quantum mechanics had been further unified and formalized by the work of Paul Dirac and John von Neumann, with a greater emphasis placed on measurement in quantum mechanics, the statistical nature of our knowledge of reality, and philosophical speculation about the role of the observer. Quantum mechanics has since branched out into almost every aspect of 20th century physics and other disciplines, such as quantum chemistry, quantum electronics, quantum optics, and quantum information science. Much 19th century physics has been re-evaluated as the "classical limit" of quantum mechanics, and its more advanced developments in terms of quantum field theory, string theory, and speculative quantum gravity theories.
Henry David Thoreau, in his journal entry of 4 May 1852,[8] writes:
Men are making speeches… all over the country, but each expresses only the thought, or the want of thought, of the multitude. No man stands on truth. They are merely banded together as usual, one leaning on another and all together on nothing; as the Hindoos made the world rest on an elephant, and the elephant on a tortoise, and had nothing to put under the tortoise.
Despite these accounts, Hindu myths do not actually contain the myth in the form described. Locke appears to have taken the idea from Samuel Purchas. Some accounts involve the earth supported by a single unsupported tortoise, as Jñanaraja argued: "A vulture, which has only little strength, rests in the sky holding a snake in its beak for a prahara [three hours]. Why can [the deity] in the form of a tortoise, who possesses an inconceivable potency, not hold the Earth in the sky for a kalpa [billions of years]?"