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Neo-Nazis elected in the new Greek parliament

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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by Rosha
 


Well, I do believe that psychopath as a diagnosis has been thrown out of DSM-IV. But if we are being colloquial, I'm happy to go with the label. It wouldn't be the first time.

Now, if I may, I'll try to rephrase my question again?

If, as you say, you believe all of these to be labels conjured up by a shadowy cabal, then they should all be equally frightening for you, right? Which then begs the question, if they are all equally frightening for you, why is it that you were moved to start a thread about the nationalists with far fewer seats than the communists? Which in turn makes me wonder if you really are able to separate your emotions from your analyses, therefore making a somewhat hypocritical stance against nationalists and not communists?


By your own posts obvious emotional stance, you're not by defintion a psychopath...so I'd not start self diagnosing just yet. Also, I can not be making a hypocritical stance about issues I am not even addressing.

And I am/have been adressing specifcally, the Nazis that were elected simply as this era is my better knowledge base and the history of the Bolshevik Red Guards forces under the Military Revolutionary Committee etc....while known to me, arent a group or a time period I have studied at the same depth as the Nazi era.

Even so, the Nazi issue itself is cursory for me as only its role in the wider processes has been of major concern to me. The focus of my study and my work, isnt individual political groups per say - rather it has been analysis of human behaviour and human power dynamics as relates to this 'shadowy cabal' as you say. . The best era for me I found to examine those dynamic formations, has been the lead up to ww2. That time period being the most recent collective experience of atrocity/catastrophy that has had enough time post event in order to examine critically and unemotionally and also, the time when this cabal asserted itself more directly only to public stage.

We speak of what we know..or else we troll..bore..pick meaningless fights etc...

And you do seem to want to pick a fight..and to base it on ' this group is worse that one is worse'..when to my view, any murder is bad..any murder is wrong...and I am not going to split hairs on that or to bite to your line as I am not invested as much as you in that need to 'fight'. Im here to understand and to share a perspective..thats all.

The only emotional connection I have to the Nazi era particularly is familiaral..as two of my own kin have died at the hands of political stupidity, and yes, one while defending Europe.

In the sense that it is frightening to contemplate the onset of vital chaos, to begin as a mother to think we may be again be plunged into another racist reactionist global war due to stupidity....yes I am frightened. However, while terror has overtaken me at different times of my life, my fears dont command me or compel me today.
They inspire me to action. And I am not comfortable with your implication that by their mere presence, my viewpoint or comments are somehow tainted owing to those fears. I am not going to challenge your opinion of me..I dont need to, its yours your entitled to think what you want...I can though assert, that they dont have sway over my view..and you can think what you will.

One of the greater fears I have, is that by being manipulated into the 'distraction' of a new global war on nationalist grounds....we will all be turned away from our study and awarness of this cabal. Another generation..lost to a meaningless war while the warmakers..re cover themselves and reorganise and so set themselves up for the next era....everything we know of them now..will be lost as they shed their old skin and hide while the new skin grows.

Whatever huh...sighs... what it boils down to is that I *know* first hand what the actual experience of terror is like...what it can do to brain and body, as much as to spirit and hwo they use that...against us. And I supose, in that, I know what I am fearing a recurrance of.

In this way, my fear serves me and compels me to right action, compels to TO speak..rather than hide in cowardice.

If you've never experienced actual terror..then you wont understand that..and wont understand why I say that the absence of fear is not a wisdom...is not 'good' as far as it relates to the necessary illusions created to deny its existance...and who controls those illusions. That lack of experience is not something I hold against you..its something I almost envy.




Ro


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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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But, by addressing one and ignoring the other, the stance you are taking is necessarily hypocritical. The same way that Stalin was given a free pass compared to Hitler.

I am not sure why you feel I am trying to pick a fight with you, unless you are being emotionally reactive - I, however, do differentiate between a fight and a debate. Here, I am simply trying to debate.


Yes, we talk about what we know, but we must always expand our horizons, or our view is limited by fear. If I were part of a shadowy cabal, it would please me greatly to have placed so much hatred toward one political ideology, whilst not the other. It makes things so much easier. One so-called threat to distract from another.

One is able to talk positively about communism without being hammered, but one is not able to discuss national socialism with the same impunity. Curious, no?



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Phantom traveller
I wasn't gonna say this,but the way the discussion is going you leave me no choise.

I VOTED FOR THEM.

The decision wasn't taken light-hearted,but after a long thought and research.
a)I decided that i wouldn't vote for any of the 5 parties that were in the parliament and are ALL responsible for the current situation.
b)I decided that i will not vote for the new political parties that were created 2 to 6 months before the elections and they were actually people who WERE in the parliament and left their parties and then had the nerve to go public and accuse their former parties for corruption(they forgot they were members of those parties).
c)I would not throw a white or an invalid vote,because according to a law,those votes go to the first political party and count as valid for them.

So it left me with a couple of dozen political parties.I read their proposals and their "manifestos" and to be honest most of them were a joke.
Golden Dawn has proposals that,at least in theory,will help the Greek people in their everyday proplems.

And to all of you that scream about the poor,poor illegal immigrants let me ask you how would you feel if you were afraid to walk in the center of the town you live and work,especially after dark?
How would you feel if an illegal immigrant had more "human rights" than you?Do you know that in Greece if a Greek citizent without health insurance go to a hospital,they ask him to pay,but they don't if he is an illegal immigrant?

As a side project i help homeless people and junkies anyway i can.You know what they tell me?
The homeless sleep with one eye open,because the illegals they steal and kill them for a jacket or a pair of shoes.
The immigrants who deal drugs they put in the drugs battery fluid .It makes the drug stronger but it kills the people who use them.
In the homeless centers the Greeks can't find a bed,because it's full of illegals.If you are a Greek you need a load of papers to be accepted,but not if you are an immigrant.
In the public kitchens for the poor and homeless,the Greeks never "get in time" and all the food has been consumed by the illegals.

This and a lot more is the reality we live in.

I know that political promises equal this:



but the "good" politicians that were in charge all those years,gave me no other choise.

Now all of you righteous people go on and call me a Nazi,a fascist or whatever you want.I don't care anymore.Putting labels to people,without living in their shoes is always easy.

Oh and if it takes a fascist regime to make this country livable again,i will take it.

Good Day


I was going to reply to Rosha but after your post, I don't need to. Thank you for your honesty my friend.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by Rosha
 


But, by addressing one and ignoring the other, the stance you are taking is necessarily hypocritical. The same way that Stalin was given a free pass compared to Hitler.

I am not sure why you feel I am trying to pick a fight with you, unless you are being emotionally reactive - I, however, do differentiate between a fight and a debate. Here, I am simply trying to debate.


Yes, we talk about what we know, but we must always expand our horizons, or our view is limited by fear. If I were part of a shadowy cabal, it would please me greatly to have placed so much hatred toward one political ideology, whilst not the other. It makes things so much easier. One so-called threat to distract from another.

One is able to talk positively about communism without being hammered, but one is not able to discuss national socialism with the same impunity. Curious, no?



I have already told you why above. If that isnt sufficent..thats not my problem. Youa re also putting words into my mouth as I have spoken no hatred except towards murder..and only expressed a deep concern and presented history as precedent.

I simply cant debate you on a topic I know too little about - communism - as I dont have enough infomation to debate with. Its not a case of fearing..that is your judgement, its just how it is and I wont be pushed into speculating or compelled to make things up just for the sake of it.

I simply do not know enough of the affect of communism to enter a discussion and given my focus is what it is, I am simpy not interested in debating it at this time.

"But, by addressing one and ignoring the other, the stance you are taking is necessarily hypocritical."

No. It isnt......

The word hypocrasy means

" a pretense of having virtues, beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually possess"


hypocrite:
— n
a person who pretends to be what he is not

.....and I have clearly told you, that I have no pretense to know of communism in the same way I know of nazism and owing to what I have ressearched specifically, I hold no major viewpoints or positions intellectual or otherwise on or about communism as I do on nazism.

The only principle I ascribe to is Right Action and I *am* being who and what I am in saying this so I am NOT appearing to be what I am not..which is or would be to say I am all knowing..when I am freely able to admit that I am not all knowing.

So I am really not sure where you get that I am being hypocritical from, your use of the word doesnt make sense in this context.

I am sure if you want a debate on comparative communist/nazist ideologies or histories many who are so informed here would take you up on it. This thread though, is for addressing the Nazist issue..so I suggest you make your own forum or thread and go from there.

If it helps to hear it ..ok... Stalin was a bad boy too....any better ?



Ro.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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So the solution to 'bad immigration policies' is to landmine your countries borders and enslave an entire group of people in concentration camps because they arent like you?

Ok. Good luck with that.

If that is the case, (by voting in a group who are more than happy to do that you are implying by proxy that you are prepared to consider this an option), then as far as I am concerned, Greece has already lost and there is nothing more to say.

Except maybe to say that I come from one of the most culturally diverse countries on earth. Right around the corner from me over 167 different nations are repesented in one suburb alone.
As a nation we have faced this issue of immigrants and injustices time and time again.
With each new wave comes new crimes, new unfairness, first it was the asians, last year it was the Arabs..now the Sudanese...etc etc..on it goes... and we have the same outcries....even some outright bursts of violence between groups and yet we as a society, have yet to elect a single nazi...or even consider them. The closest, a nationlaist woman called Pauline Hanson..was made a laughing stock and thrown out..what was good about her views was used to good affect to deal with teh social concern....what was dogmatic racism..was rejected ourtright - as all racist agendas imo, should be so reduced and rejected.
Love..means bearing with...and I am quietly proud of the majority of Australians who despite injury after injury, do do just that...love..even if they dont know they are. As time shows..most groups do integrate..and if we can hold together as one people of many..rather than clinging to false perceptions of elitism..if we can be compasisonate and stand firm enough in our standards and own views..things do get better.

There are always other solutions....other choices...always...they just take time and willingness.

I wish you both and all Greeks..very well..and will now close my participation in this thread as I can see that to continue to post..will only bring about that which I hoped to avoid..


cheers and best of luck.


Ro
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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Extremism isn't the only answer.

There are vast regions of possibilities inbetween.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Rosha
 


Extremism isn't the only answer.

There are vast regions of possibilities inbetween.





I do hope so, however, knowing our fellow humans as you do...would you trust them?

Im sorry I can't. One day maybe. Not today.

Thanks for the comment.

Rosha
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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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Good point.

My problems isn't so much with my fellow human, but those who seek power which are the ones I do not trust.

I think immigration has gone to to an extreme, and sadly, most likely will swing back to another extreme. The idea would be to keep it from swinging too far to the opposite extreme.

I think ignoring the problem will most likely lead to more of a swing to the other extreme. Again, sadly, I think this is what is happening, and what those who seek power want to happen.

I'm not against immigration, I just think it needs to be more tempered.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Rosha
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So the solution to 'bad immigration policies' is to landmine your countries borders and enslave an entire group of people in concentration camps because they arent like you?

Ok. Good luck with that.

If that is the case, (and by voting in a group who are more than happy to that you do imply you are prepared to consider it), then as far as I am concerned, Greece has already lost and there is nothing more to say.

I wish you both and all Greeks..very well..and will now close my participation in this thread as I can see that to continue to post..will only bring about that which I hoped to avoid..


cheers and best of luck.

Ro
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Greece is in the bottom of the pit right now.
Many consider that we are at war and we don't know the enemy(and i don't mean just the extremists).
Bad policies not just for the immigration,but almost everything have brought us to this point.Only extreme measures right now will make any difference in that war.

I'm not usually follow the extreme.I love my country and i hate to see how it has fallen.My grandfather fought in WW2 and if he was alive today and saw what they have done to Greece,i'm sure he would vote for them as well.
I say that with certainty because he was the one who taught me to love Greece above anything else.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Rosha
reply to post by JustEve
 


So the solution to 'bad immigration policies' is to landmine your countries borders and enslave an entire group of people in concentration camps because they arent like you?

Ok. Good luck with that.

If that is the case, (by voting in a group who are more than happy to do that you are implying by proxy that you are prepared to consider this an option), then as far as I am concerned, Greece has already lost and there is nothing more to say.

Except maybe to say that I come from one of the most culturally diverse countries on earth. Right around the corner from me over 167 different nations are repesented in one suburb alone.
As a nation we have faced this issue of immigrants and injustices time and time again.
With each new wave comes new crimes, new unfairness, first it was the asians, last year it was the Arabs..now the Sudanese...etc etc..on it goes... and we have the same outcries....even some outright bursts of violence between groups and yet we as a society, have yet to elect a single nazi...or even consider them. The closest, a nationlaist woman called Pauline Hanson..was made a laughing stock and thrown out..what was good about her views was used to good affect to deal with teh social concern....what was dogmatic racism..was rejected ourtright - as all racist agendas imo, should be so reduced and rejected.
Love..means bearing with...and I am quietly proud of the majority of Australians who despite injury after injury, do do just that...love..even if they dont know they are. As time shows..most groups do integrate..and if we can hold together as one people of many..rather than clinging to false perceptions of elitism..if we can be compasisonate and stand firm enough in our standards and own views..things do get better.

There are always other solutions....other choices...always...they just take time and willingness.

I wish you both and all Greeks..very well..and will now close my participation in this thread as I can see that to continue to post..will only bring about that which I hoped to avoid..


cheers and best of luck.

Ro
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ENSLAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LIKE US?WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON BUDDY?HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING I WROTE?YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO FRIGGING IDEA WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LIVE IN CONSTANT F E A R IN YOUR OWN DAMN CITY. WTH?! OR YOU ARE DELIBERATELY DOING IT FOR YOUR OWN REASONS?I DO NOT CARE EITHER WAY,I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT BE INTO BY DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING. COME H E R E AND LIVE FOR A MONTH. EXPERIENCE THE PROBLEM,TALKING IS EASY MY FRIEND.


What you wrote drove me mad.Seriously.What kind of people do you think we are?Okay you NEED to comprehend THIS. We NEVER had ANY problems with immigrants.FOR YEARS.We gave them jobs.We have respected their NEED to WORK and live a DECENT life with their families.Is that clear?Now it has come to a point were we CANNOT receive more of them we are barely 10 million!AND THEY KEEP COMING HERE.I L L E G A L L Y. Is that clear to you? They DO NOT WORK. The ILLEGAL ONES. I have written on a past post WHAT they engage in.So am I supposed to be OKAY with folks whose sole interest is crime activity?????Am I supposed to be OKAY with that going on WHERE I LIVE?AM I NOT ENTITLED TO A DECENT LIVING?Does the fact that I also need this MAKE ME A FASCIST?REALLY?Wow.No I don't want any of those people to die or end up in camps!!!!!I want them deported.PERIOD.NOT those who are here LEGALLY.Those with FAMILIES.NO.But those whose sole interest is CRIME.OH AND PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE RECENT APPEARANCE OF RARE DISEASES THAT WE HAD ERADICATED FROM GREECE DECADES AGO.THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEM HERE.Are we supposed to be OKAY with that???Like I wrote previously,you are more than WELCOME to stay here for a month.
The people are angry.DEPRESSED.Most of us KNOW that we are ALL VICTIMS of the elite's AGENDA. And you mentioned that we should vote for the same people who brought us to this point so that they'd eventually face penalties?Well OBVIOUSLY you have no clue of what has been happening in Greece for the past decades!!!HUNDREDS OF SCANDALS INVOLVING POLITICIANS,CLERGY,PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND NO PENALTIES.EVERRRRRR.NONE.NADA. phew......WOW
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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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My point was: it is hypocritical to condemn mass murder by one group and not condemn it by another, because then you are not outraged at mass murder itself, but outraged about only one of the groups that have carried it out.

Now, you have pointed out to me that this is not hypocrisy but ignorance, I'm not sure that's any better. Even the jocular tone with which you just addressed Stalin's crimes in this post is somewhat telling. A "bad boy"? Really?

Maybe look into it a little more. A study is not complete with half the picture.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
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My point was: it is hypocritical to condemn mass murder by one group and not condemn it by another, because then you are not outraged at mass murder itself, but outraged about only one of the groups that have carried it out.

Now, you have pointed out to me that this is not hypocrisy but ignorance, I'm not sure that's any better. Even the jocular tone with which you just addressed Stalin's crimes in this post is somewhat telling. A "bad boy"? Really?

Maybe look into it a little more. A study is not complete with half the picture.






Cody..if I was to sit here taking the time to condem every single mass murder in history that wasnt Nazist in origin in order to meet your criteria of what is ' acceptable' discussion on a nazist thread, we'd be here for fifty years.

The word you are looking for is 'incomplete' perhaps even the word biased might apply but not hypcritical as it still doesnt fit the context and as regards this thread, even biased doesnt apply as I made no statements about communism and wasnt debataing comparative politcs. I was saying ' #'..this sucks...so sharing an opinion on NAZIS BEING ELECTED TO GREEK PARLIAMENT.

You'll get no more from me Cody..you'll have to troll this one out on your own...or gosh darn it..grow some and start your own thread on Communists being elected to Greek Parliment.


ciao

Rosha

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posted on May, 9 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Why would I start a thread? The act of any of them being elected is not interesting to me; it became interesting to me the moment I perceived your lack of balance.

I have already corrected my initial conclusion of your stance, from hypocritical to ignorant. Your suggestion of bias will do nicely, too, thank you. Take your pick.

It's quite easy to call someone a troll when they question you, isn't it?
Now, I will take my "trolling" elsewhere.
My point is made.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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>thought better of it.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by mayabong
I'm saying that there were no mass executions of Jews, in ovens or gas chambers or "whatever". There is simply no proof and any attempt at uncovering the truth is met with fierce resistance from people such as yourself. The 6 million number was tried after world war 1 and didn't stick so they did it after world war 2. The "holocaust" is an industry that brings in tons of money and is also used as a political tool. As pointed out before, prisoners came out of some camps claiming to have gas chambers, when even mainstream historians agree that those camps had no gas chambers.

I'm not agreeing with what Hitler did as far as rounding people up in camps, I also don't agree with the US rounding people up in camps. Facts are facts, and you can't use a speilberg movie or the repeated history channel episodes on nazi's to get them. I also take the Nuremburg trials with a grain of salt cause these people were probably tortured, just like the people on trial for 911 were tortured.


Yes, facts are facts. And they all say - in cite after cite after cite and book after book after book - that the Holocaust happened. I'm not going to lower myself to your level and argue any further.



posted on May, 9 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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Except you are missing one point, Greece hasnt got the natural resources,geographic location,climate or donors, to ever rise to the levels that Nazi germay did, not by a long shot.



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 02:01 AM
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So the solution to 'bad immigration policies' is to landmine your countries borders and enslave an entire group of people in concentration camps because they arent like you?


Please post a source stating this is their aim. Do they want to enslave the immigrants, or do they just want to deport them?



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 01:50 AM
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As their blog is now offline I cant directly link you to sources from their own page which was here :

xryshaygh.wordpress.com...

Here though are recent on and of stream media and blog comments..:


Illegal immigrants must be immediately arrested and deported, and legal immigrants eventually expelled as well, the group says.

It wants crimes committed by immigrants to fall under a special category, with their sentences carried out in special detention centres where the immigrants are put to work.

Read more: www.vancouversun.com...



and


The group - which openly displays books on ***Aryan**** supremacy at its party offices - has been frequently linked to racist attacks, but denies beating up migrants.

As they strode to the hotel, his supporters began chanting 'Greece belongs to Greeks' and 'Foreigners get out of Greece'.

When asked what his first action in parliament would be, Mihaloliakos said: 'All the illegal immigration out! Out of my country, out of my home!'

Asked how he planned to carry that out, he angrily said: 'Use your imagination'.


'Greece is only the beginning,' he shouted at them. When asked what that meant, he said: 'You know very well', wagging a finger at the television camera.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...





People are already..reasserting reason though..good to see.



freethoughtblogs.com...


The Official blog of the Greek Nazi ‘Golden Dawn’ political party which recently won an unprecedented 7% in the parliamentary elections is hosted on the WordPress.com platform at xryshaygh.wordpress.com...

In addition to espousing hateful anti-immigrant rhetoric, denial of the Holocaust, and Nazi salutes, Golden Dawn has a history of direct involvement in organized crime and intimidation with many of their.top ranking members having been indicted and convicted of violent crimes against immigrants and political opponents.

On April 17 behind the cover of anonymity which they always use on their official blog on WordPress.com, they published an article that made thinly veiled threats of violence against Greek reporter Xenia Kounalaki, the editor of the foreign news desk of Kathimerini, Greece’s leading broadsheet.

Source: www.euractiv.com...

The WordPress.com Terms of Service state that all content submitted ‘does not contain threats or incite violence towards individuals or entities’.

Source: en.wordpress.com...

We call on Automattic Inc. to stop providing a free platform for Golden Dawn to anonymously threaten and intimidate reporters, immigrants, and political opponents by shutting down their WordPress.com account.



Which was done....their blog is now offline...and it was a horrendous blog to read...full of ....sh*t...hate filled nazi..sh*t.



Ro.

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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by stolisGreece
A lot of attacks every day, happens in Athens alone.

Immigrants (especially from countries in war are very aggressive (logical)), and they form groups with 2 to more members, seeking victims (lonely pedestrians and some times not lonely) and they attack using knifes.

Its logical because they are hungry, but for Greek people its o serious problem.

Some time ago, a father left his home born at 5 o clock in the morning, to go to the parking to take his car and transfer his wife to the hospital, because their child was to be born.

His was carrying a small bag, with a camera, and that made him a target.

Two immigrants, with a knife, killed him to steal the camera, so the child lost his father prior to enter our cruel world.

www.theapricity.com...

www.keeptalkinggreece.com...

You must understand also that Greek Golden Dawn appear not as a neo-Nazi party but more a nationalism party (an extreme nationalism party) .

And what they say is:
Immigrants must leave Greece (except these who have been for many years),
and Greek national property back to Greece and not to the bankers

Do you still believe is strange what happened?

I would like some responsible posting in ATS thank you! They are not NeoNazis, they are a Greek right wing party that supports Greece for the Greeks.

The insignia and salutes they use are Greek. The swastika itself was used in ancient Greece. Hitler used many Graeco-Roman insignia just like *all* of Europe uses Graeco-Roman ideas, concepts and developments.

I support Greece for the Greeks, France for the French, England for the English and all the rest of the European nations.

This party has family values and supports the Greek people. The other parties in Greece have globalist NWO values and support the impoverishment and enslavement of Greece.

Flooding Greece and other European nations with non-European immigrants is genocide pure and simple.

I hope Golden Dawn put an end to all this and manage to punish the international communists that have virtually destroyed Greece and other European nations.

Perhaps they can exile them to the 3rd world countries the illegal immigrants came from? I’m sure they would be quite welcome and happy there.



posted on May, 12 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
One is able to talk positively about communism without being hammered, but one is not able to discuss national socialism with the same impunity. Curious, no?

Communists are the most murderous thieving people on the planet. Even the worst Nazis didn’t come close to committing the murderous outrages the communists did. Anyone who is communist or supports them over any right-wingers even Nazis deserves the undying hatred of anyone withy a mind.

Commies are lazy, murderously envious thieves and here’s my proof.

LEFTIE COMMUNIST BODY COUNT
People's Republic of China Body Count 73,237,000
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Body Count 58,627,000
Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic Body Count 3,284,000
Democratic People's Republic of Korea Body Count 3,163,000
Cambodia Body Count 2,627,000
Vietnam Body Count 2,732,000
Democratic Republic of Afghanistan Body Count 1,750,000
People's Republic of Poland Body Count 1,607,000
People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia Body Count 1,343,610
Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Body Count 1,172,000
Chinese Soviet Republic Body Count 700,000
People's Republic of Mozambique Body Count 700,000
Socialist Republic of Romania Body Count 435,000
People's Republic of Bulgaria Body Count 222,000
Hellenic Republic of Greece Body Count 200,000
People's Republic of Angola Body Count 125,000
Lao People's Democratic Republic Body Count 103,000
Mongolian People's Republic Body Count 100,000
People's Socialist Republic of Albania Body Count 100,000
Republic of Cuba Body Count 73,000
German Democratic Republic Body Count 70,000
Socialist Republic of Czechoslovakia Body Count 65,000
Hungarian People's Republic Body Count 27,000
People's Democratic Republic of Yemen Body Count 1,000

TOTAL COMMUNIST BODY COUNT: 152,463,610


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