The Final Countdown

I don't know why everyone is saying that because some countries are already in the 21st, it means nothing will happen. Do I need to remind you the mayan civilization was in mexico, where it is still the 20th for another 4 hours? And the winter solstice won't happen for another 10 hours so if that's what they based the calender on, you have a while to wait before making any conclusions.

Here is where it comes from:



Here are the time zones:



It's not just about the 21st date, it's about the solstice.

you have a while to wait before making any conclusions.

And...

Because

Beer Time

Cran

reply to post by daaskapital


First off thanks for the song I was just thinking this thread must at least contain the song!

I personally am looking forward to this all being said and done, and I can't wait till tomorrow. I absolutely have no plans of saying I told you so to anyone, nor do I have plans of staying up all night waiting in fear or anxiety or excitement. I plan to sleep till 745 as usual EST and wake up and go to work as usual. Enjoy Christmas with my family and friends and my birthday on the 30th, and then welcome the New Year!

I honestly have to say to those who have somehow found a way to embrace the end, please don't be to disappointed when nothing happens, and please know that life is what you make of it and I think that everyone should live life for the moment regardless if you think the world could end tomorrow or not. The truth of the matter is that people will die tomorrow and anyone could be one of them.

If you live your life worrying about what might happen tomorrow then what kind of a life do you really have? What good does it do for you to worry every day about what tomorrow may bring? As yourself that then think about it because I used to be just like you till I realized that it really doesn't matter if I am alive I need to live it the way I want to live it. When the time come that you are out of time and you know you are out of time. Think of all the regrets that you will have knowing that time has run out.

When my father passed away he had spent a good portion of his life being angry at the world and drinking. When he suddenly was in Critical Condition and his life was at an end. I couldn't help but wonder what that had to feel like and that is when I changed my life.

I can promise you all 2 things.

1. Tomorrow will come and it will be another day in this world that I will give you does suck especially now.
2. If you live every moment in your life the way you want to you will be much happier.

Nothing happen till now and nothing will happen.


[SNIP]

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by daaskapital

 

Pfffft!.....Eastern Standard Time is the real time and everyone knows it!

15 Hours and 30 Minutes to go.

Hell Yeah!! Im so looking forward to this!!

You may be happy to hear its 12pm on 21/12/12 here and all quiet. No incoming planets or astral bodies. No flood or earth quakes.

A beautiful clear blue sky, birds are chirping dogs sleeping and no zombies . A sunny 20 deg' at the moment with an expected high of 28. Couldn't ask for a more perfect day IMO

Merry Christmas and a very happy new year from down under.

I know that a lot of the supposed prophecy that has been very loosely translated while ignoring actual scientific translations. Not to mention the Mayans themselves have said time and time again that this is not the end of the world..

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

Furthermore onto the Alignment. I invite anyone and everyone who is curious to please take a look at this fun site.

www.solarsystemscope.com...

Go ahead and move the date and time up to the correct times and you will see there is no planetary alignment at all.

Originally posted by Phantom28804


Go ahead and move the date and time up to the correct times and you will see there is no planetary alignment at all.

I only see the solar system on there, and apparently it's supposed to be a galactic alignment on the 21st, not an alignment of the planets in our solar system. Nobody was saying there was going to be a planetary alignment, that is very obvious.

Oh my god Zombies!
There are zombies everywhere here,
the msm isn't reporting it


zombies




oh my god














they're all over my tv screen.
oh. i see, never mind

Originally posted by bl4ke360

Originally posted by Phantom28804


Go ahead and move the date and time up to the correct times and you will see there is no planetary alignment at all.

I only see the solar system on there, and apparently it's supposed to be a galactic alignment on the 21st, not an alignment of the planets in our solar system. Nobody was saying there was going to be a planetary alignment, that is very obvious.

edit on 12/20/2012 by bl4ke360 because: (no reason given)

Ok so I know I am going to get slammed for this with the whole "NASA lies and deception bit" but here

"Throughout the course of the year, our distance from the Milky Way's black hole changes by about one part in 900 million -- not nearly enough to cause a real change in gravity's pull. Moreover, we're actually nearest to the galactic center in the summer, not at the winter solstice," he wrote.

Finally, Reddy explains, the sun appears to enter the Dark Rift region every year at around the same time, and there's nothing special about this year's crossing.

Source

Originally posted by Phantom28804

Originally posted by bl4ke360

Originally posted by Phantom28804


Go ahead and move the date and time up to the correct times and you will see there is no planetary alignment at all.

I only see the solar system on there, and apparently it's supposed to be a galactic alignment on the 21st, not an alignment of the planets in our solar system. Nobody was saying there was going to be a planetary alignment, that is very obvious.

edit on 12/20/2012 by bl4ke360 because: (no reason given)

Ok so I know I am going to get slammed for this with the whole "NASA lies and deception bit" but here

"Throughout the course of the year, our distance from the Milky Way's black hole changes by about one part in 900 million -- not nearly enough to cause a real change in gravity's pull. Moreover, we're actually nearest to the galactic center in the summer, not at the winter solstice," he wrote.

Finally, Reddy explains, the sun appears to enter the Dark Rift region every year at around the same time, and there's nothing special about this year's crossing.

Source

Nothing in that quote has to do with an alignment, and i don't know why they bring up distance to the center of the galaxy because I've never seen anyone talking about that to begin with. Gravity has nothing to do with it.

You have actually read all the supposed prophecies right?

Other alignments

Some people have interpreted the galactic alignment apocalyptically, claiming that when it occurs, it will somehow create a combined gravitational effect between the Sun and the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy (known as Sagittarius A*), thus creating havoc on Earth.[98] Apart from the fact noted above that the "galactic alignment" already happened in 1998, the Sun's apparent path through the zodiac as seen from Earth does not take it near the true galactic center, but rather several degrees above it.[74] Even if this were not the case, Sagittarius A* is 30,000 light years from Earth and would have to be more than 6 million times closer to cause any gravitational disruption to Earth's Solar System.[99][100] This reading of the alignment was included on the History Channel documentary, Decoding the Past. John Major Jenkins has complained that a science fiction writer co-authored the documentary, and he went on to characterize it as "45 minutes of unabashed doomsday hype and the worst kind of inane sensationalism".[101]

Some believers in a 2012 doomsday have used the term "galactic alignment" to describe a very different phenomenon proposed by some scientists to explain a pattern in mass extinctions supposedly observed in the fossil record.[102] According to this hypothesis, mass extinctions are not random, but recur every 26 million years. To account for this, it suggests that vertical oscillations made by the Sun on its 250-million-year orbit of the galactic center cause it to regularly pass through the galactic plane. When the Sun's orbit takes it outside the galactic plane which bisects the galactic disc, the influence of the galactic tide is weaker. However, when re-entering the galactic disc—as it does every 20–25 million years—it comes under the influence of the far stronger "disc tides", which, according to mathematical models, increase the flux of Oort cloud comets into the inner Solar System by a factor of 4, thus leading to a massive increase in the likelihood of a devastating comet impact.[103] However, this "alignment" takes place over tens of millions of years, and could never be timed to an exact date.[104] Evidence shows that the Sun passed through the plane bisecting the galactic disc only three million years ago and is now moving farther above it.[105]

A third suggested alignment is some sort of planetary conjunction occurring on 21 December 2012; however, there will be no conjunction on that date.[106] Multi-planet alignments did occur in both 2000 and 2010, each with no ill result for the Earth.[107] Jupiter is the largest planet in the Solar System; larger than all other planets combined. When Jupiter is near opposition, the difference in gravitational force that the Earth experiences is less than 1% of the force that the Earth feels daily from the Moon.[108]

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Originally posted by Phantom28804
You have actually read all the supposed prophecies right?

Only the ones that comply with physics, and that gravity explanation makes no sense at all because even if everything did line up, there wouldn't be any noticeable difference in the course of one day to all of a sudden create some giant gravity-wave that destroys earth. The gravity from the sun itself is far greater at any point in time than the gravity produced by any kind of alignment.

We still have 14 hours left here in E. Tennessee.
The wind is blowing REALLY HARD! Rain blowing sideways, tree limb branches being blown off. I ran over several on my way home about 30 min. ago. Even if nothing happens, these heavy winds are dangerous! I hope everyone out at the "end of the world" parties around here get home safely.

reply to post by bl4ke360


I would like to see any doomsday prophecy of the Mayan Calendar and Dec 21, 2012 that actually correlate to anything remotely feasible or possible. There is not one thing that I have seen, read, or heard that comes close to remotely plausible.

Originally posted by sled735
We still have 14 hours left here in E. Tennessee.
The wind is blowing REALLY HARD! Rain blowing sideways, tree limb branches being blown off. I ran over several on my way home about 30 min. ago. Even if nothing happens, these heavy winds are dangerous! I hope everyone out at the "end of the world" parties around here get home safely.

Actually it's 7 and a half hours until the solstice. If anything happens that would probably be when.

Originally posted by Phantom28804
reply to post by bl4ke360

 

I would like to see any doomsday prophecy of the Mayan Calendar and Dec 21, 2012 that actually correlate to anything remotely feasible or possible. There is not one thing that I have seen, read, or heard that comes close to remotely plausible.

I'm not going to bother gathering that information for you because if nothing happens that will prove it in itself. And the opposite if something does happen.

reply to post by bl4ke360


Well in that case I will leave you be as I have been kind enough to give actual references to my data and my arguments per the debate at hand, whereas you seem to have nothing but quick replies with nothing to back them up.

Not to mention you are changing your facts as you go

Originally posted by bl4ke360
I don't know why everyone is saying that because some countries are already in the 21st, it means nothing will happen. Do I need to remind you the mayan civilization was in mexico, where it is still the 20th for another 4 hours? And the winter solstice won't happen for another 10 hours so if that's what they based the calender on, you have a while to wait before making any conclusions.

Originally posted by bl4ke360

Originally posted by sled735
We still have 14 hours left here in E. Tennessee.
The wind is blowing REALLY HARD! Rain blowing sideways, tree limb branches being blown off. I ran over several on my way home about 30 min. ago. Even if nothing happens, these heavy winds are dangerous! I hope everyone out at the "end of the world" parties around here get home safely.

Actually it's 7 and a half hours until the solstice. If anything happens that would probably be when.

Originally posted by Phantom28804
reply to post by bl4ke360

 

Well in that case I will leave you be as I have been kind enough to give actual references to my data and my arguments per the debate at hand, whereas you seem to have nothing but quick replies with nothing to back them up.

I have plenty of references but it doesn't matter at this point since there's only about 7 hours to go to see for yourself if anything will happen.