The sound of children playing..

reply to post by NewAgeMan


The mind is given great importance as an adult, humans are obsessed with their thinking. Thinking is composed of 'me' and 'my' security in the future. Children are not aware of the future or the past. Children are aware of what is really happening, now is what is happening. Past and future are thought constructs and 'me' is also a thought construct.
Children are taught the concept of time and will learn to place themselves in past and future senarios. This produces the belief of a separate identity. There never is a separate identity, it is just a belief that arises with the belief in time.
Children are now.
If you want to enter the kingdom of heaven you have to find yourself now.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

I was just really wondering what Jesus meant when he said that a person would never enter the kingdom of heaven unless and until that person changes to become like a child, what quality it was that a child has that we must have, and presence in the now is a big part of it, but not the whole picture imho. There is a certain disposition that they have in relationship with and to life, that is key, and I think it has to do with being real or what I call authentic, and without pretense ie: honest, and open.

The true being is childlike, it sees everything as if it were the first time, it sees what is going on but has no preconcieved ideas.
Adults have preconcieved ideas. Children are prior to conceptulization.
Before a child has learned to speak it has no words so it cannot name and label and define. Your definitions define your world. If you do not define the world, the world appears as it is - prior to conception. Jesus also healed the blind. The human adult only sees it's definitions, with it's preconcieved ideas. Whereas children see without ideas, without labels, they see the real world.
The real world is nothing like the mind has you believing. Adults are lost and confused because they believe preconcieved ideas (mind stuff).
Children are full of joy because life is joy. Adults are joy too but the window is clouded by mind. Take a look behind the noise of the mind (ideas/labels) and find out what you really are.

You will never stop having preconcieved ideas because every human is conditioned, however, you can be aware that you have preconcieved ideas and watch them arising.
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reply to post by Itisnowagain


I like to laugh, as a child, with the awareness that I have all these preconceptions, which are false, and a ridiculous (absurd) self, who isn't authentic, and in that laughter yes, there's a hint of paradise or the timeless, spaceless domain of true life, which is joyful and happy and not without a keen sense of humor at the predicament we've consciously or unconciously placed ourselves in, which only creates separation and a loss of joy and laughter, for no good reason!

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Was something lost somewhere along the way?

Many get taught and from that point on the teachings get to influence the masses more. The children are like in EDIN conscious some adults are of EDIN conscious others/many are not. Also they are still innocent so they generate innocent happy vibrations in their playing times.

reply to post by NewAgeMan



Dear NewAgeMan, this is such a wonderful post you share. I have a dear and prophetic friend, William Samuel, who wrote a whole book about this.

The book is titled "The Child Within Us Lives! A Synthesis of Science, Religion and Metaphysics". He wrote this book in 1986, and everything he describes about the changing times, the reasons for the upheaval, I can see he was right and it is happening now.

Here is a short excerpt from the introduction in this book:


" In the days ahead, when the flowering begins, those who ran with the Child will be part of the flower and the seed.

As time goes, physical science will soon understand what time and space are actually about. In a very literal sense, we are approaching the end of human ignorance. If the prophets are right—and they have been remarkably right to date—our reach to the limits of light, human understanding, corresponds to a period of tumult in personal and world affairs. Therefore, we have only a short time remaining to turn from our self-limiting views, slough off the old sense of ignorance with its cherished notions, and awaken to the Child of Identity and Its birthright.

But that isn't the end of things either. Humanity is soon to make a spiritual and metaphysical breakout into a new day, a new time and space. Those who find the Child within, and listen to Its Covenant, are to DO what they have been intended to do from the beginning of linear history. Another "dimension" is to be added! This book is about that.

The reader has a role to play in these events. This volume would not have come into your hands unless you were to be a part of the story soon to unfold." (The Child Within Us Lives! A Synthesis of Science, Religion and Metaphysics by William Samuel)

You can read more here --as I have posted many excerpts from his books on his website:

www.williamsamuel.com...

scroll down that page and find the title listed as: #1 Quantum Man The Guided Missile

and read those excerpts I have posted there.

I think you will really like this book and it will open the doors to show you the way back to this Childlikeness that is our very own Inner Way Shower, the Innocent One, the Pure in Heart and Child that Jesus spoke of many times--- anyway, I will just William's message speak for itself---

Enjoy, and thank you, all of you who sense the Truth is some how connected to the Child in some way! That is so marvelous!

reply to post by Sweetmystery

Thank you for that, I'll look into it. And like I said, the child within is really our true and authentic self prior to the layering on of all kinds of addiitonal nonsense and ridiculousness, and this person, even as a work in progress, needn't be immature or childish in any way, just REAL, and therefore, of a good-willed, good-natured humor or mirth which I've detected as the essence our true state of being ie: playful and joyful, able to laugh and not take ourselves TOO seriously, while at the same time recognizing our sacred (childlike) nature.

The future that's coming imo, isn't as much about haves and have-nots, but of the distinction between absolute self-centered ignorance, and absolute awareness, and "woe to those" left behind in the dark or who's hearts will be hardened at the sound of others' laughter over the joke of all ages, my heart really goes out to them, to those forever mired in a deathful life, unwilling to come on out into the light of awareness and understanding and have a good laugh at thier own expense, my heart goes out to them, to a degree, until it realizes that some among us will be a lost cause in the great awakening of humanity that is coming. Even love has to make choices about it's own value and worth.. and there are some real hard-asses around who's defensive shield is impenetrable, I've even come across a few right here at ATS (and all over the Internet).

The "nexus" (of a just judgement) will pass over and through us all, and the sheep will be seaparated from the goats, while the good will continue to do good nad the evil, evil. It will not be a good time to be "left behind" and the test will be in matters of the heart, and therefore in the life of the inner-child ie: if ever there was a time to resurrect that one within, now would be it, before it's too late.

Best Regards,

NAM

NAM! Wow, that is nearly exactly what my friend wrote his whole book about. And this is what he helped me to discover for myself too! It is a marvelous Wonder, Freedom and Joy to return to the Light of who we really are.

Go see this one too, you will really like this:

www.williamsamuel.com...


Much Love to you for this!

I miss it. I miss being like that. They are so innocent and ignorant. It was such bliss to be young.

reply to post by Sweetmystery


Interesting, seems congruent.

I think in the final analysis, there will be a final distinction, turning men one way, in laughter, or another, in smug hard-heartedness, and that is this:

There is a very fine line betwen holiness, and assholiness, and there's always a final tempation to the sin of spiritual pride, and this is where the inner-child comes into play, because he isn't so foolish or blinded by ego to make that fatal error, and fall from grace into a pit of ego-centric, self glorification, which in light of the context we are discussing, is itself rather amuzing when you really come to think of it, this desire to prove that we are a "somebody" or a big something ie: greater than, or less than where false modesty is equally egotistical as excessive pride.

Humility OTOH doesn't shrink away, and doesn't hide its light under a bushel basket, where humility may be defined as knowing one's self as you really are, and virtue, as power restrained.

reply to post by Regent Leo

Not sure ignorant is the right word, ignorant of ignorance perhaps..

Time was slower then though - remember how LONGGGGG summer holidays lasted, it seemed like forever, as I walked farmers' fields with a buddy to a fishing hole, the white fluffy clouds floating in a blue sky, the birds proclaiming their joy in freedom, the bugs buzzing in the heat, and nothing compelling us but the desire to catch a speckled trout.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Regent Leo

 

Not sure ignorant is the right word, ignorant of ignorance perhaps..

Time was slower then though - remember how LONGGGGG summer holidays lasted, it seemed like forever, as I walked farmers' fields with a buddy to a fishing hole, the white fluffy clouds floating in a blue sky, the birds proclaiming their joy in freedom, the bugs buzzing in the heat, and nothing compelling us but the desire to catch a speckled trout.

I think ignorant is the right word. I don't use it in a negative light, mind you, just in one implying an unawareness.

I remember being so mystified by my world, so amazed at the wind and sun and rain. What happened to me? Why did I turn into such a cynic? Such a people-hater?

Originally posted by Regent Leo
I miss it. I miss being like that. They are so innocent and ignorant. It was such bliss to be young.

Yes, ignorant of the world. Completely immersed in what is present in awareness only. Nothing outside of this. No what's next. No beliefs. No baggage.
Let go now of all the baggage. Allow yourself to just take a minute with 'no next' and 'no before'. Nothing ever happens.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Hi ItisNow,

Just wanted to say, I always enjoy your posts. You say it well, pointing to this Unbound, ever New, Fresh, Living Light of This Awareness being all That-I-Am (we are)

Identity as Awareness, always Good to see. Don't know if I have recommended this book to you before, but (if you still read this sort of thing) you will love William Samuel's book titled "A Guide To Awareness and Tranquillity"

Actually, so would the guy who said he hates life and people and lost sight of his heart and the Innocent Wonder of his Child Self--- he can get it back, he can re-discovery this True Self and finding it Again--to return to This Self that never left us, this is really how it is supposed to be---we lose the Child for a time, we go out into the 'adult' world (adultery-trying to leave God behind and be the separate mind, which we really never can be) ---and then when we find It again, It is such Joy and we Know! We know what we have found, we know what a gift and treasure This True Life of us is really Is that was always with us.

I have probably said this on some other thread to you, that I enjoy your posts---but, just wanted to say again--- Thank you!

SweetMystery

reply to post by Itisnowagain

Not nothing, everything happens and is happening, it's not nothing they are emersed within but everything where the sheer joy is being included in that everything. Don't go nihilist with this POV, which is wonderful.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Emptiness is form:
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Be what you are and stop playing roles, be childlike, be being.
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reply to post by Itisnowagain


Yes, the emptiness is, I would say, Pure Divine Intelligence, Unseen Divine Mind, which I would call the Mind of God, the Ineffable Being that is without beginning and without end and Is The All.

And this Infinite Mind Divine is filled with the ideas or images and appearances we call life, right here, this world we live in and as, universe entire, all time and space, all that is or was or will be.

This world that seems objective is really the Subjective Mind of God appearing as 'many, matter, time, space, things, body, form'. God experiencing Itself. God and God's Self Knowing Awareness, which is 'who we are'---we are the "knowing awareness' of God. We are God's Awareness and there is no other who is the possessor/owner of this awareness. There is only one awareness, and it is being Here and Now.

The Beauty is when we discover we are and always will be, each of us our very own perfect expression of God's Being. In the Totality of God are many expressions of God's Self Knowing. The Self is our sense of Identity as 'me'. The sense of Self, this sense of Me can only be The Infinite Isness (God) and Its sense of Itself as the idea of Me (you). Meaning also, if I am That, then you are That; there is no other That/This.

Awareness is Identity and Identity is Self Knowing Its Self.

We are the Child of God, we are the progeny made in the Image and likeness of God. We might say, metaphysically speaking, we are born of a virgin birth, because there is Only One Being Here and It all is God's Being. Everything that 'comes to be' from out of This One 'emptiness' is 'made of God's Self---there is no 'other'.

When we remember who we were as children, or even the feelings of those days, like NewAgeMan describes so well---all we need is to uncover our Childlikeness, and we understand our world again, somehow there is Real Intelligence Here when we find the Child again. It is really our Original Self we are finding, or returning to. The Self of us that was 'before time began' and came into this world to Re-discover our True Self, and this time, we realize how beautiful and holy this Child really Is--- Like our very own personal discovery of the Messiah within Us.

Thanks for the inspiration.

When I was a kid, most of what I know of the world was unknown to me. I knew the news existed, and did my best to stay away from such a boring channel. I knew sex existed, and it grossed me out. I fought physical maturity every step of the way.
Alas, here I am, and I have a rather racy drawing being worked on. I sometimes wonder if I should consider my younger self's feelings when I do and think such previously boring and "gross" subjects.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


To know you are nothing is wisdom. To know you are everything is love.
I am nothing and i am everything.

I am the blank, empty canvas on which everything is painted.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by NewerBeing

 

I'm afraid if I started laughing like a child they might think I'm crazy! The very thought of it makes me want to laugh out loud like a child, and who cares what ANYone thinks! LOL (but in deep, adult-sounding baratones).

P.S. How much "newer" are you ie: what's your age? I'm 45, which is kinda old but not really quite yet..

edit on 3-5-2012 by NewAgeMan because: P.S. added

I love this thread it's fantastic!
Quite often over the years my mother and myself (and now my daughter joins in) crack up in public places and would seem to some to be totally crazy. We can't actually help it, which may sound crazy too.
Feels good but
We're just a family of dags who laugh, and I refuse for it to be any other way!

Convincing yourself you're a grown up and mature really weighs you down, you know?

Learn well, earn well, be good at this, be good at that, pressure pressure pressure, I reckon you just need to be the best light hearted person you can be, because he sure does have the best sense of humour too.

Light as a feather

reply to post by Sweetmystery


Wow!
That was beautifully said, thank you x a