How much longer do you predict Christianity will be taken seriously?

Originally posted by jeantherapy
Making jewelry out of bones of people you've eaten will help you survive how, exactly? Perhaps spells could be cast with them. Do you offer the heart to the gods too?

Considering our tendency to want to debase ourselves before a being who takes responsibility for our world and our fates, so as to remove the fear of an uncontrollable world and replace it with the fear of a controllable god, I'd say it's a possibility.

Originally posted by Starchild23

Originally posted by smithjustinb
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LOVE IS A SURVIVAL MECHANISM. Funny you decide to quit listening to what I have to say at the moment an opportunity arose to learn something new. Like you were really listening to begin with.

Love is a survival mechanism. Love is a mechanism that keeps you alive. Love is a mechanism that you survive by. Because without it, you'd kill your self. Believe that. You'd die without love and you'd die without fear. They are both good things. They are both survival mechanisms. Life is about survival-like it or not-and life is what is referred to as "spirit". So to be a survivalist is to be a spiritualist.

Your ego is shining through today.

No, without love you would not kill yourself. I have lived without anyone loving me for several years. They put up with me...they did not love me.

Yes you would. Depression is the absence of love of life. You don't have to be loved in order to love. If you don't love life, you become depressed. If that depression lasts long enough, you give up.

Besides, how can you kill yourself when you fear death?

Fear must be balanced by hope. When you lose hope, you'll pull the trigger.

Your argument for love as a survival mechanism designed to trigger reproduction is naive, simplistic and actually contrary to the survival process.

The argument isn't love designed to trigger reproduction. The argument is love designed to trigger enjoyment and meaning for life. Without that kind of love, you'd kill yourself. People in depression kill themselves. If they loved life, they wouldn't. Love is a survival mechanism.

Love is not for survival, it's for learning.

Learning- another survival mechanism.

Survival- propogation of life.
Survival mechanism- mechanism by which life is propogated.

What do you have against love being a method, or mechanism, by which life is propogated. What do you have against the propogation of life?

Obviously, judging by your previous post where you compared survivalism to cannibalism, your definition of survivalism is completely different than mine. You think I'm arguing in favor of what is more accurately called, "cannibalistic anarchy", when all I'm arguing for is the goodness of all things survival. Survival is a fact of life. By definition, you would die without it.

Killing animals is a good thing.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by ofNight
Many people don't take it seriously even today, though there are obviously tons of Christians still alive today.

How long do you think it'll be until Christianity dies down?

My guess? Christianity will greatly die out in the next 100 years. I believe it'll be a sharp decline, considering science, atheism, and rational thought are becoming more and more prevalent, and since the invention of the Internet, information is being spread at a faster rate than ever before.

Christians can answer this too, it's an interesting thought.

This has got to be one of the most uninformed posts on ATS, ever.

You are simply falling victim to the anti-Christian propaganda you see on your TV, which you should probably stop watching.

I find it funny how certain Christians become accusatory when discussion about their religion from a non-Christian perspective is introduced. I'm not falling victim to anything, I am proposing a discussion. Typical.

reply to post by smithjustinb

Yes you would.

Are you accusing me of lying? I was depressed for a couple of years before I finally wised up to what I was doing wrong. And never did I come close to committing suicide. You don't have a clue in hell as to what you're talking about.

You don't know the first thing about depression. You are naive.

Fear must be balanced by hope. When you lose hope, you'll pull the trigger.

You should shut up while you're ahead. You are clearly uneducated in this department.

The argument is love designed to trigger enjoyment and meaning for life.

Let's run with that. See, you don't need love for life. Someone who loves no one but is afraid of dying will kill everyone, and still fight to keep themselves alive. Fear is all you need to want to live. Fear of death. Or pain. Or anything that can result in death. Hatred can also keep you alive...long enough to exact your revenge.

Again, you know nothing. It's embarrassing to read your arguments.

What do you have against love being a method, or mechanism, by which life is propogated.

This.

1.5 MILLION = the number of children in America who go to sleep without a home each year

And this.

In 2002, the United Stated Census determined that three out of every ten children being raised in America are living in single parent homes. Unfortunately, the number of single parent homes is growing.

And especially this.

Some 18,000 children die every day because of hunger and malnutrition

Love propagates life, eh? Tell that to those children.

your definition of survivalism is completely different than mine.

Maybe you do have half a cell in your head. My definition of survivalism: Surviving by whatever means necessary.

Even if it means killing the children. Even if it means eating them.

Even if it means eating yourself.

Originally posted by ofNight

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by ofNight
Many people don't take it seriously even today, though there are obviously tons of Christians still alive today.

How long do you think it'll be until Christianity dies down?

My guess? Christianity will greatly die out in the next 100 years. I believe it'll be a sharp decline, considering science, atheism, and rational thought are becoming more and more prevalent, and since the invention of the Internet, information is being spread at a faster rate than ever before.

Christians can answer this too, it's an interesting thought.

This has got to be one of the most uninformed posts on ATS, ever.

You are simply falling victim to the anti-Christian propaganda you see on your TV, which you should probably stop watching.

I find it funny how certain Christians become accusatory when discussion about their religion from a non-Christian perspective is introduced. I'm not falling victim to anything, I am proposing a discussion. Typical.

When you say "many people don't take it seriously even today", you are speaking about your own small circle of acquaintances, which are likely to have the same belief system as you. It also sounds like what politicians always say when they try to push their own agenda: "Americans believe this, Americans believe that" when it is not true at all. They are not speaking for all people, and neither are you.

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Considering the number of people alive today, "many" may not even come close to "half", let alone "most".

Why are you offended by the idea of a lot of people not taking it seriously?

reply to post by AwakeinNM


Many people don't take Christianity seriously.

Some of which are called Atheists, and there are more of them than just, "my acquaintances".

Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

Considering the number of people alive today, "many" may not even come close to "half", let alone "most".

Why are you offended by the idea of a lot of people not taking it seriously?

I'm not offended. How did you arrive at that conclusion?

reply to post by AwakeinNM


In that case, it's not just his "acquaintances". It's also a lot of people I know and have met.

Christianity is being overrun by money-grubbing materialists. Does that surprise you? It shouldn't.

The time you are here in this existence is like a blink of an eye compared to eternity. The Lord thy God in heaven is the one who will be judging you based upon what you have done in this existence.

Love thy neighbor and Love thy enemy.

God bless everyone.

reply to post by mojo2012


yes, and if you do not do exactly as your told and believe in an invisible man in the sky (why is it even a man???) you will be sent straight to hell.

Your god can swallow a grenade and skydive without a chute for all I care.

Prolly until they elect Romney as President...

Christianity will be around as long as people have morals, principles, and laws. When there is a complete moral breakdown in society, Christianity will be thrown to the wolves of scientists, anarchists, and athiests.

Christianity laid down several tenets which have influenced society for the better. Christians in Name Only have corrupted those tenets so that people who find fault with the CINO's apply that fault with the religion itself instead of trying to understand the basic principles of it. Whether or not Jesus was the Son of God, I do not know. However his teachings were for the betterment of mankind.

Did you ever stop to think that God may have given Jesus so God could be closer to his creations? Maybe Jesus was not given for our personal enjoyment. Perhaps he was given by God so God himself could find wisdom in man or better understand our faults. Sort of like an embedded combat correspondent.

As it seems, many scientists and athiests want to be God and therefore cast aspersions on any kind of religion to give themselves power. I am an agnostic. I just don't know what to believe. I do believe that the breakdown of religion has led to the breakdown of our society. Society will not be better if Christianity is cast aside.

"Here lies an athiest in his coffin of gold. All dressed up and nowhere to go."

Originally posted by OpenEars123
I agree with the above comments. Intellegence will prevail eventually, the sooner the better IMO..

It's OK to have faith if it gives you hope, as long as you don't keep telling other people it's gospel (pun intended)

You are assuming that people will get more intelligent. From what I see, the public education system is not increasing intelligence.

Sharing the love of Christ with others is a blessing to them. Many need hope and faith. Some people take advantage of the goodness and ruin it, but it is itself a wonderful and fulfilling experience in life.

Where there is poverty, there is ignorance.

Where there is ignorance, there is religion.

Where there is religion, there is tyranny.

- me

reply to post by Snoopy1978

Where there is ignorance, there is religion.

Not necessarily. Prove this statement, convince me.

reply to post by Starchild23


As countries descend into third world status and their education system breaks down, religion/supersticion takes a stronger foot hold.

Travel a little and see.

By the way, are you an informed adult? If you have not grasped this concept by now, convincing will not come from me, I assure you.

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Then prove to me that religion brings tyranny.

I see no tyranny on the part of the church today. All tyranny is by the hand of the government, which we believe to be separated from church...unless that's an illusion as well. Pretty clever.

Are you an informed adult? I begin to wonder.

Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by smithjustinb

 

Yes you would.

Are you accusing me of lying? I was depressed for a couple of years before I finally wised up to what I was doing wrong. And never did I come close to committing suicide. You don't have a clue in hell as to what you're talking about.

You don't know the first thing about depression. You are naive.

Dude omg. I used to take cymbalta. Had I not found a new found love for existence, I would have killed myself. Love is a survival mechanism. I'm not naive.

Fear must be balanced by hope. When you lose hope, you'll pull the trigger.

You should shut up while you're ahead. You are clearly uneducated in this department.

Seriously? Do you just want to argue with everything I say without even thinking about what I'm saying? You're saying I'm uneducated when all I said is fear and hope are polar opposites and people who kill themselves feel hopeless? I'm pretty sure those are both 100% irrefutable valid statements. You just hear what you want to hear and you'll do anything to support your argument even when your argument is slapping you in the face telling you you're wrong.

I will shut up though, because obviously I'm talking to a brick wall. Talk to you later brick wall.

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by Starchild23

 

As countries descend into third world status and their education system breaks down, religion/supersticion takes a stronger foot hold.

Travel a little and see.

By the way, are you an informed adult? If you have not grasped this concept by now, convincing will not come from me, I assure you.

Interesting. I see the U.S., a strong and religious country made that way by Christian beliefs, descending to third world status with religion on the decline cause by "smart educated people" espousing science as their religion.

I have traveled. I am an informed adult.