Collapse, Mike Ruppert's shocking documentary.

good documentary...Michael Ruppert is legit...thanks for sharing

Originally posted by RedGoneWILD
good documentary...Michael Ruppert is legit...thanks for sharing

Thanks for watching the whole doc.

The only thing I can hope for is more people realizing what is going on in this capitalism punchdrunklovestory.

Idk about the "collapse"

I tend to be more on the side of us being manipulated by Big Oil

We'll continue to see the same old tactics of price gouging and so on...

We all know that the technology exists for making vehicles that can run with out gasoline..... just need to give it a couple more decades. IMO.... Big Oil won't be able to suppress other technologies forever. It's only a matter of time.


Also.... if you look at this from a Globalists point of view..... it's pretty clear that the rest of the world is importing Oil from the Middle East. Eventually the Middle East will run out of oil....... I'm confident that the US and Europe can work there way out of that situation and develop other ways of getting oil......

Seems to me... the Middle East will be screwed once they run out of Oil. ....meaning...maybe that's the whole point.

Apparently a lot of us were absent on non-renewable resource day in elementary. Where we were taught that some things on this planet can not be renewed, whats there is whats there. The point I got from the DOC was that while we are still producing oil throughout the world, everything we have is derived from oil. People really seem to forget that most things produced need oil in being produced. The point Ruppert was making is that our entire way of life revolves around oil. From being a key ingredient in day to day goods to the simplest version of transportation. The world's population is growing at an alarming rate and countries that were once just 3rd world countries are becoming industrialized 3rd world countries meaning that they are beginning to consume oil like the more modern countries. China and India alone is growing at a rate that they will be needing more and more oil to keep up with their growth. Whether or not most of us realize it there is a whole world that is going on outside of the US. Think about what will happen once China renovates Africa a bit more and they begin to need that black gold more.

This is not a climate change/global warming argument like most want it to be. The argument is that are way of life is unsustainable. What do we do when we've consumed most of the resources on this planet? How many years are we away from a scarcity scare? It amazes me that there are so many naive people out there who either don't want to think ahead or just think it won't happen.

Not mentioned is that people in 1st world nations stabilized their population growth long ago, while people in third world nations continued to have children at unsustainable rates. I feel sorry for all those starving children all over the globe, but not so sorry that I will sacrifice my own children.

The PTB have allowed our first world nations to be flooded with immigrants, and in the U.S. the periods of largest numbers of immigrants was during repub admins.

While the invasion of the U.S. had created its problems, immigrants do slowly adapt to our culture and slow their birth rates, and birth rates in Latin America are slowing.

Europe has a far greater problem, and the only probable solution will be at some point, starting to expel the invaders.

Population has exploded in the Middle East and Africa, and when the oil runs out, there will be hundreds of millions of desperate people looking to migrate to any place on the planet that will accept them, and the first world nations would be foolish to allow them in.

Peak oil is not a sham, imo. I equate the term with "readily accessible" oil, such as the type that is found mainly in the Middle East. There is certainly more oil available around the globe, but much of the newly-discovered variety is located in hard-to-access places.

If more readily accessible oil was there for the taking, oil companies wouldn't be engaged in dangerous, expensive operations like the Deep Water operation, which led to the U.S. Gulf disaster.

If Peak OIl were a sham, mega-sized old fields like Saudi Arabia's Ghawar wouldn't be subjected to extensive water injections to retrieve deeply buried oil.

The fact is that oil extraction is becoming more and more expensive, as easy accessible fields that have been worked for decades are drying up. If the so-called "abiotic" theory were correct, then new oil would replenish the extracted amounts, something that hasn't happened.

Mike Ruppert deserves all the kudos I can give for getting "Crossing the Rubicon" published.. That book was my personal eye-opener on the way current geopolitics really work.

Ruppert is a bit of a diva, but imo he seeks attention mainly to make money for himself, which I can't blame him for. Collapse was a worthwhile documentary to watch, but none of it was a surprise to people who read "Rubicon" and who had followed the postings on his previous site, "From the Wilderness".

Wouldn't that hole in the Gulf of Mexico keep spurting out oil forever? Isn't it still, at this moment? I thought supply got short because people were refining less and charging more.

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Not mentioned is that people in 1st world nations stabilized their population growth long ago, while people in third world nations continued to have children at unsustainable rates.

You might want to check your statistics on that buddy, the population is far from 'stable'. Furthermore, the United States uses more than twice us much oil per day compared the the 2nd heaviest oil using nation, which is China. Stop trying to blame other people pal.

I have seen this movie a couple of times. I like Rupert, and the majority of what he says, but the whole peak oil thing seems a little too dramatic and staged. Honestly, it would be good if the oil ran out. A society based on petrochemicals is almost doomed to failure and inefficiency. Just look at all the environmental damage created by the oil industry. There are much better ways of producing energy. Can anybody say Zero Point Energy. The whole oil game is just a grand scheme created to hold the development of technology back, and keep the goy in the stone ages.

I liked what he said about taking his dog for a walk to see how many smiles they'd get.

Here's to hoping that smiles are the currency for the afterlife. I'm going to be a very rich woman.
Making someone smile is sometimes all you can do to get through just one day.

Originally posted by Matt1951
Peak oil is a myth. With current technology, oil can be extracted from North Dakota at $80 per barrel. North Dakota is booming. North Dakota has more oil than Saudi Arabia. The US will be able to supply all its needs, and export a lot more, within 10 years.
The global warming idiots hate this. But it is reality.

i'm always confused by deniers of global warming...if i read what they say correctly

" go ahead and burn as much fossil fuels as you like, because this has no correlation to global warming"

to me...having billions of tons MORE of "burnt exhaust" particulates along with the increase in CO2 (a gas that we EXHALE out of our lungs) in our atmosphere is not exactly a good thing, even if it does not warm the atmosphere as the deniers say. i do not want to breathe more CO2 into my lungs....how simple is this to understand?

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Oh, I have done my research, over and over. If not for immigration, U.S. population would be relatively the same, maybe less than it was a couple of decades ago. The problems of the the third world are in fact created by the culture of third world. Most people from third world nations, and those living in third world nations fully recognize this.

Yeah, the U.S. does waste more energy than any other nation, and this is no accident.

The U.S. was designed to waste energy. If we just eliminated planned obsolescence, we could probably cut our energy usage by about 80%. We could all be living good lives working less than 20 hour weeks. We reached the point where we could produce more than we could consume long ago, which is the reason for the whole planned obsolescence economic strategy.

It is proof in the putting that the PTB are all a bunch of idiots, unless the plan is to wreck our planet so that we are less attractive for an alien invasion.

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I agree, the end of big oil will probably be the best thing that could happen to the people on this planet.

Followed by a melt down of global markets.

I believe the average person is a lot more intelligent than they are given credit for being.

If we don't get wiped out by global warming or some nuclear disaster, we will be a far better society in the future, as the end of big oil will also be the beginning of the end of corporatocracy.

Some people think we are going to run down oil, some say there is plenty. Untapped fields and all. As the quality of clean, easy to reach, already established oil fields diminishes, we can switch to alternate "waiting reserves" that are untapped as yet, at a higher cost now and in the future. Lower grade shales, and sulfurous or acidic oil fields cost more to refine. The deep horizon blemish in the gulf is one indicator we are taking higher risks and incurring higher costs in order to maintain the flow. Let alone the blood and treasure spilled in the Middle East to secure that oil too..

All of that effort is telling. And all the world is comfortably numb as it continues to guzzle at the pump so we can drive our selves around. All is well (pun intended) then, I guess. As long as everything scheduled and accounted for goes according to plan with deep wells and wars and such. According to plan...

What if another war occurs and someone pulls a Saddam in Kuwait? What if instead of setting hundreds of oil wells on fire and intentionally dumping millions of barrels in the sea, somebody nukes a big oil field or two? Or maybe sinks a tanker in a channel choke point blocking delivery of that precious oil stream? Any other vulnerabilities that might arise? We see a future ahead that continues, but fail sometimes to account for the intentional "monkey wrench in the works".

Originally posted by Matt1951
Peak oil is a myth. With current technology, oil can be extracted from North Dakota at $80 per barrel. North Dakota is booming. North Dakota has more oil than Saudi Arabia. The US will be able to supply all its needs, and export a lot more, within 10 years.
The global warming idiots hate this. But it is reality.

So why are we importing oil from the middle east at $110 to $120 a barrel, what your saying is just not true.

All it would take is a manipulation of the market to make everything we use completely unaffordable. We are too dependent on Oil, it doesn't matter if we have enough of it or not. Aren't you all usually about being non-dependent on the government? So why are you comfortable with being dependent on oil? What is the difference? Being dependent is being dependent, it doesn't matter the source.

Originally posted by Iconic
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So you're saying we HAVEN'T used half the oil supply, even looking at how much oil we use for every little thing? Besides, even if it hasn't peaked, it will.

Originally posted by Danbones
peak oil, the way Mr rupert has portrayed it has been shown to be a PTB scam

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At least give me a link to something

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You're assuming that Oil is a finite resource. To assume this, you must believe the premise put forth by those controlling it's 'flow' that Oil is a 'Fossil' fuel... a Hydrocarbon produced naturally as a byproduct from decomposing trees lying in swamps over millions of years... not, as with any other hydrocarbon, produced under incredible pressures and extreme temperatures the likes seen at any given time in and around the earth's mantel.

Just saying.

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-World net exports of oil have been decreasing, dramatically. Meaning there is less oil each year for importers like the U.S to buy.

Then please explain this.

Bloomberg writes that to offset weak U.S. demand, refiners exported 439,000 barrels a day more than were imported the year before. In 2010, daily imports averaged 269,000 barrels, according to the Petroleum Supply Monthly report.

Imports of crude oil and related products fell 11% last year, reaching a level not seen since 1995.

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You are ignorant. Not stupid. Do a few google searches and learn.

Peak oil lol,

They have been pulling that scam since the 70's and people keep falling for it.